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Now the prize...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:53 am
by Wingz
I want you to decide what to do with his character :lol: Alt mode/bio/color/name/etc!

What are your thoughts?

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:14 am
by turbomagnus
After that comment made about 'a committee', I think the alt mode should be a camel. You know, 'a horse designed by a committee'...

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:31 am
by Wingz
A camel with an astro blaster maybe? As a suggestion. I'm sure there are better choices XD (he seriously hates that weapon :lol: 5 damage. Always, just 5 damage.)

Have any ideas for a bio? :lol: We can set the armor/color/stats/everything :KREMZEEK:

EDIT: OP007, Servant, Steve, Silly, Sumo? Thoughts and ideas? ;)

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:43 pm
by Optimus_Prime007
Has a Unicorn ever been done? I can't remember if we had one or not. :-?

How about a Sloth?!

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:52 pm
by sumowrestler
The challenge with alt mode is knowing what is available at the time. The other thing is what sort of experience amount are we looking at? If we want to be real screwballs, we would dump everything we could into rank and then find the next biggest dump stat to use in order to make him almost worthless. Here is the full list of decepticon alt modes.

the-complete-list-of-decepticon-alts-t76554.php

Does anyone have a link for his chracter?

We could go pure avoiders with nothing in speed or courage. Let us try to keep skill and firepower to 0 if possible. How about 297 plains strider and call him One Big Chicken. I think the fast land animal is pure avoid.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:00 pm
by turbomagnus
Technically availability doesn't matter since Burn and Wingz can set alts to whatever they want as Mods - it's part of how things like the Sharkticons work as prizes.

According to a post in the OWW thread, this is the character: https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... r_id=88103

Sorry, Wingz, looks like he already equipped it with Shatterblasters...


Fast Insect/Grasshopper Alt with maxed out intel and the name 'Kwai Chang Cain'? :-D

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:46 pm
by sumowrestler
It looks like we get to play with one of his level three members. This is the one from the thread.

https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... r_id=88103

If we go with my idea, I say we max out avoid then go rank followed by some intelligence. Here is a possible bio.

"M.I.A. was captured by Wingz's task force in the latest rounds of battle. While he was captured, the coalition turned him into a One Big Chicken. His new programming, thanks to a shell program, was to be a great scout but jumps at the simplest of noises. OBC has a good memory (intelligence of 5+) and highly skilled at dodging (maxed avoid) and is rewarded in the scouting division of Bun-Bun army by having a high rank (8+) but still looked down upon by the warriors of Bun-Bun army."

Colors: bright yellow
Weapons: none or one of the base weapons
Quote: "Information is key to victory if you live long enough to get it back to base."

I am not sure if the experience is enough for 23 points. I seriously do want to see a 10 avoid at level 3 though.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:51 am
by ThunderThruster
XP calculator says 10 points in Avoid costs 1,023,000xp.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:08 am
by Wingz
Maybe...we could call it "Old Lady's Handbag" and make it brawl with 0 strength and 0 speed?

EDIT: Maybe give it a lot of "rank" with the motto, "You really don't want to know what's inside."

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:35 am
by Burn
turbomagnus wrote:Technically availability doesn't matter since Burn and Wingz

Wingz can't do anything other than issue warnings.
I'd like Wingz to be able to do more, but for reasons I won't go into, it just ain't **** happening.

I am however more than happy to assign an alt mode.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:53 am
by Wingz
Burn wrote:Wingz can't do anything other than issue warnings.
I'd like Wingz to be able to do more, but for reasons I won't go into, it just ain't **** happening.


You and me both, Boss! You and me both! :cry:

Aaaahahahaha, I love my whip! :KREMZEEK:

EDIT: If you're willing to set the alt...would you also be willing to make a weapon?

Possiblyyyy...make the weapon "old lady handbag" (0-1 damage) and the name of the character could be something like "old biddy" or "Level 0 Warrior"? ;)

That way, he could keep a small prize for himself, too, from the event.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:12 am
by turbomagnus
Wait, I'm seeing something...

Alt Mode: Dodge Viper
Weapon: custom 'Old Lady's Handbag'
Character Name: 'Little Old Lady From Pasadena' (or LOLFP for short)

Max speed, no avoid or endurance or strength, max rank (respect your elders, sonny!)

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:23 am
by Wingz
turbomagnus wrote:Wait, I'm seeing something...

Alt Mode: Dodge Viper
Weapon: custom 'Old Lady's Handbag'
Character Name: 'Little Old Lady From Pasadena' (or LOLFP for short)

Max speed, no avoid or endurance or strength, max rank (respect your elders, sonny!)



Beautiful :cry: Simply beautiful! With a name like LOLFP, should it really have no FP, though? :-?

Regardless, I love this idea! :lol: We have everything except a bio with it, too!

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:02 am
by turbomagnus
Wingz wrote:
turbomagnus wrote:Wait, I'm seeing something...

Alt Mode: Dodge Viper
Weapon: custom 'Old Lady's Handbag'
Character Name: 'Little Old Lady From Pasadena' (or LOLFP for short)

Max speed, no avoid or endurance or strength, max rank (respect your elders, sonny!)



Beautiful :cry: Simply beautiful! With a name like LOLFP, should it really have no FP, though? :-?

Regardless, I love this idea! :lol: We have everything except a bio with it, too!


Wait, FP as 'From Pasadena' or FP as 'FirePower'? :???:

Bio... Hm... a drone being programmed, the datastream gets corrupted and nothing except one song comes through, basically programming the drone to be like the song... the Research and Development Department are trying to catch it for reprogramming, but that Little Old Lady just always out-drives them...

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:09 pm
by Wingz
turbomagnus wrote:
Wingz wrote:
turbomagnus wrote:Wait, I'm seeing something...

Alt Mode: Dodge Viper
Weapon: custom 'Old Lady's Handbag'
Character Name: 'Little Old Lady From Pasadena' (or LOLFP for short)

Max speed, no avoid or endurance or strength, max rank (respect your elders, sonny!)



Beautiful :cry: Simply beautiful! With a name like LOLFP, should it really have no FP, though? :-?

Regardless, I love this idea! :lol: We have everything except a bio with it, too!


Wait, FP as 'From Pasadena' or FP as 'FirePower'? :???:

Bio... Hm... a drone being programmed, the datastream gets corrupted and nothing except one song comes through, basically programming the drone to be like the song... the Research and Development Department are trying to catch it for reprogramming, but that Little Old Lady just always out-drives them...


When I saw LOLFP, I thought you intentionally meant to give it a lot of FP as a clever joke with the name Little Old Lady From Pasadena :lol: Like "LOL FIREPOWER". I love your stat choices, though, with that motto :lol:

I doubt the weapon is a go, so we'll have to think of another weapon. Possibly brawling and make mention of a handbag in the bio?

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:08 pm
by turbomagnus
Just a rough idea sketched further out...

Bio wrote:Name: The Little Old Lady From Pasadena (LOLFP)
Primary Function: Excessive Speeding
Secondary Function: Frustration
Alternate Mode: shiny red super stock Dodge

Motto: "Respect your elders, Sonny!"

Bio: see attached file.

**Accessing Attached File**
**What follows is a transcript of a video file of a meeting between the leaders of the Research Design and Development team and WarPorn Industries, acquired at great risk to the Autobots and smuggled out of Darkmount in a wax cylinder that had been fed to a trained petrorabbit who promptly er... 'delivered' it on Turbo Magnus' doorstep.**

Bun-Bun: I'm not paying for this drone!

Psychout: You already did, it's been debited from your account!

B: I demand a refund!

Zombie Cheerleader: 'No refunds, no exchanges, no mercy'; it's our policy... or is that our creed?

*Bun-Bun angrily waves a finger at the pair from WarPorn.*
B: I ordered a custom-designed, custom-programmed drone to hunt down and deal with Wingz once and for all and you couldn't do that right!

P: Did you get your drone?

B: Yes, but-

P (Interrupting): Was it custom-designed?

B: Well, kinda-

P (Interrupting): Was it custom-programmed?

B: Sort of-

P (Interrupting): Then what's the problem?

B: It's not the design or program I ordered! I ordered a merciless, relentless anti-Rabbit hunter/killer drone. What I got is anything but!

Z: Maybe it's our motto?

B: What I got is another mistake like that thing, mind of a serial killer? No, mind of a cheerleader instead! Who on Cybertron was watching 'Animaniacs' on your main computer anyway? It jumped the feed and now my Wingz-killer drone has nothing on its processor except the episode where Slappy Squirrel is the 'Little Old Lady From Pasadena'!

P: Have you ever seen how violent Slappy Squirrel can get? You should be paying me extra for such destructive tendencies!

B: Destructive tendencies? The blasted thing decimated half my team with a handbag before driving off! This is Cybertron, where could it have even gotten a handbag in the first place, much less a Transformer-sized one!

P: No customer service without proof, no proof without the drone. Do you have the drone?

B: I told you, it transformed and drove off.

P: Then I guess you need to try catching it, don't you?

**The transcript ends at this point, citing the video file suddenly cutting out and being replaced with an episode of 'Vorns of Our Lives'.**

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:16 pm
by S.o.L.
If custom weapon is out, maybe mace? Like the purse is a mace, or "mace" spray in the purse.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:38 pm
by Wingz
Servant? Turbo? Have I told you two lately how much I appreciate you? :cry: Sweet ideas ;)^

I love the mace idea. It gives him a bit of a fighting chance since I know that he likes to keep the xp on his characters as even as possible :lol: Plus, I wouldn't want to leave him completely helpless since we're royally wrecking his stats!

And that bio is simply amazing! :APPLAUSE:

Edit: Any other final thoughts? Or are we good to go with this?

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:05 am
by turbomagnus
Wingz wrote:Servant? Turbo? Have I told you two lately how much I appreciate you? :cry: Sweet ideas ;)^

I love the mace idea. It gives him a bit of a fighting chance since I know that he likes to keep the xp on his characters as even as possible :lol: Plus, I wouldn't want to leave him completely helpless since we're royally wrecking his stats!

And that bio is simply amazing! :APPLAUSE:


Thanks, Wingz.

I have to admit, though the bio wasn't my usual style, the complete tongue-in-cheekiness of it was fun to write. I loved some of the little things like the method of delivery of the transcript, 'No refunds, no exchanges, no mercy' and slipping in some Animaniacs and Slappy Squirrel into it...

Edit: Any other final thoughts? Or are we good to go with this?


Unless someone wants to take the XP Calculator and 'M.I.A.'/LOLFP's current XP and actually map out the new stats instead of generic "High speed, low endurance, High Rank, low strength', etc., I think we're good...

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:51 am
by sumowrestler
My concern with him having high speed is the other weapon choices he would have. My idea would completely nerfed the character. It would also dig at burn who seems to detest avoiders. My idea is basically making a Decepticn version of Groove from the Protectobots. What is worse for a Con than being to afraid or ineffective in a fight? The only challenge is he would create more draws in a mission.

If I done my calculations right, my idea would have 10 avoid, 5 intelligence, and 7 rank. The intelligence and rank would be worthless in battle but used for story purpose. The only usefulness is the avoid. He would have around 19k left of experience which could be tossed at whatever you all would want since everything else would be at 9k. This would allow him to be a level 3 but barely.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:39 am
by Wingz
I say max out speed then the rest in rank, Turbo. I’m writing from my phone so this will be brief.

Sumo, the point was to have complete creative control, not to kill the character. ;) Though, I guess that depends on your definitions of creative and fun. I like the idea of giving him a chance, especially when we choose the weapon also. He’ll have it for a month. This idea fulfills the creative control and having fun with it factor for our side of things while also giving him something to be able to work with.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:40 pm
by Burn
sumowrestler wrote:It would also dig at burn who seems to detest avoiders.

WTF? It's called smack talk, nothing more!

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:23 pm
by sumowrestler
Has anyone try an even split of the stats? I know the level 10 have everything maxed but do we have anyone set all at 3 or 4 for each stat? It won't screw over the mech but still be interesting experiment.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:33 pm
by Burn
Whichever stats you go with, leave them on odd numbers.
I've always had an inkling that bots with odd number stats perform worse. But I've never been arsed to test it.

Re: Now the prize...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:59 pm
by turbomagnus
Wingz wrote:I say max out speed then the rest in rank, Turbo. I’m writing from my phone so this will be brief.

Sumo, the point was to have complete creative control, not to kill the character. ;) Though, I guess that depends on your definitions of creative and fun. I like the idea of giving him a chance, especially when we choose the weapon also. He’ll have it for a month. This idea fulfills the creative control and having fun with it factor for our side of things while also giving him something to be able to work with.


Besides, imagine the trash-talk when it actually wins battles; "Hey, Buns, need us to design the rest of your team, too?" and such...

It'd be like that one song by Kenny Rogers, 'The Greatest', "Man, I knew we were good, but we can even beat ourselves..."


Really, though, I'll leave the stat-specifics up to you guys. I fiddle with mine too much to really know what to do with them. (I think the last month or so, since the end of the May C4C round, is the longest my team's gone without anyone getting reset and tweaked since I started back playing....)