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Honestly I'll admit it right here and now.

Does it really matter what tag we are under? AWC, Autobot War Council? ASF, Autobot Strike Force? The fact is, right here, right now, we are getting most of our mechanical anatomical limbs chopped off left and right. The Decepticons are beating us, the Predacons are maiming us, heck I've even lost to some Maxis over the time.

The results do not matter, it's the way we are respecting each other. I cannot stand a thought of a Civil War ready to abrupt within us Autobots. I am not speaking for the ASF, nor will I ever speak for the AWC. I'm posting this for a reason, and that reason is to voice something that I believe is a topic in the minds of many Autobots here.

That issue is of course, Autobot Unity. We are lacking every aspect of it. While the ASF is united strongly along the lines of communication, I'm quite frankly sure that the AWC is definitely not. I'm not saying that the AWC is lacking any sort of activity, because i know that they are active. The main issue I wish to tackle here is how we want to rip each other apart. I'm sure many people in the ASF wish the AWC went straight into the ground. But that will never be the case. With the #1 ranked Autobot Conjurous belonging to the AWC, the Council will remain a big part in the Autobot faction as long as he remains there. The AWC? Well, I'm frankly sure that they want the ASF gone right now. If I were them, I'm sure that they think the existence of the ASF is slowly killing away their new recruits, and taking away their current members. While that might not truly be the case, I'm sure, we both have some disdain for each other. I am also not suggesting anyone non-tagged to pick a side. If that's what you want, play independently.

Just like how I brought this topic to your attention, I'll say it once again. Right here, right now, the leaders of the ASF and the AWC have to make a decision. The Autobots cannot remain in this median no longer. The question is, what will we do? Will we split apart? ASF and AWC going seperate ways, seeing which subfaction goes down the spiral? or will we unite into one faction? Perhaps establish the Autobot name once again among the HMW ranks? I cannot contain my intent. I want one Autobot subfaction. Whatever it's name is, AWC, ASF, or whatever you want to call it. If we continue this war of words, this will get nowhere. The Autobots will continue to struggle with everything, simply because there are too many good players on each side here. If we continue to maintain our lack of communication, we are going to end up the fodder of the HMW. The Decepticons, Predacons and Maximals do not have this current situation.

I am a man of action, and my patience is growing very thin. I ask once again. The leaders of the ASF/AWC need to make a decision. Either we split up, right here, right now. Or we unite, perhaps into a coalition, or into ONE Autobot Organized Group. As #2 ranked Autobot, even my skills cannot make up for the lack of unity here. I've seen ASF blaming AWC for loses, and vice versa. I've seen AWC waiting to prove the ASF wrong, when that will probably take way too much time.

I really don't know who is going to read this. I really don't know who is going to care. I really don't know who's going to respond. What I know and all I know is that if we continue this, the Autobot faction will continue into a downward spiral. If this is the said decision, then I believe my position as a Voice will no longer be needed. If this Autobot faction was ever human, well it's on cardiac arrest.

Cheers,
Blurrz

(stands up and applauds, looks around left and right, sees grumpy faces.. sits down again..)

(Grumpy faces get blown off, deathwatch appears from the shadows brandishing a sniper rifle, commends Blurrz)

deathwatch wrote:(Evolution Prime's face get blown off, deathwatch appears from the shadows brandishing a sniper rifle, commends Blurrz, AWC bows to the wishes of the ASF)

*sigh* SMACK! Not the response I believe he was going for.

Ninjaburn wrote:*sigh* SMACK! Not the response I believe he was going for.

Not the response he typed, it got edited later on...

Agreed Blurrz. We are all Autobots. Now we just have to figure out how we're gonna do this...

Maybe I've been way out of the loop, but I've yet to see anyone on either side blaming anyone for losses.

Get your builds together and get in the missions. It's not that difficult really. Been doing every day since the game came up.

ASF/AWC doesn't matter. We're all AUTOBOTS. That's the real banner we fly under here. The rest is like a sub-group really.

If you really want to see unity, I think the back-biting from people needs to stop. There's one in this thread even and it is completely un-warranted really.

Life happens people. Time to put on the big boy/girl pants and get down to business in the missions and quit whining about whose fault it is. It's no one's fault but your own if you're letting any of this get under your skin.

Now I'm going to get back to monitoring my bots and winning some missions.

Thanks Ashe5k, saves me a lot of typing this morning.

Blurrz, I appreciate the fact you are doing a kick@$$ job in the ranks and keep up the awesome work. But a leader is not one who does the best, but one who can help everyone else achieve that greatness as well. Just because you sport the ASF tag and are in the top 10 autobots I don't think really means anything. Now if you would bringing you skills to the boards, ready to help newbies willing to learn, that is what helps bring people to the boards and make them more interested in the game; and thus, better players.

As for the creation of the new ASF, or the resurrection of the AWC, who cares? Cannot both coexist? Or do they need to? You are forcing drama where none is needed; if someone wants the AWC or ASF tags, let them. The game isn't designed around sub-factions and their performance anyway, the sub-factions are created for the sole benefit of the players to give them another aspect of the game to enjoy.

First off, If you actually read what I wrote, I wasn't boasting the ASF tag, I didn't say 'I'm godly, bow down to me, I'm so high-ranked'. Infact all you said right there is what I didn't say myself.

Secondly, I do believe we need to make a decision here. This sort of drama was created by the leaders long before I posted it, and that's what the point of this post is for.

Finally, If you also read what I wrote, the tags isn't the thing that matters, it's the results. We are getting our butts handed to us because of our lack of unity.


-Blurrz

Blurrz wrote:First off, If you actually read what I wrote, I wasn't boasting the ASF tag, I didn't say 'I'm godly, bow down to me, I'm so high-ranked'. Infact all you said right there is what I didn't say myself.

Blurrz First Post wrote:As #2 ranked Autobot, even my skills cannot make up for the lack of unity here.

Skills aren't supposed to make up for any perceived lack of unity. As I said before, use those skills to help newer players, monitor the config question threads and the like to help new players.

Blurrz wrote:We are getting our butts handed to us because of our lack of unity.

What lack of unity? I don't see any 'Death to the AWC' and 'May the ASF burn in hell!' threads going up. If there is a large group of people butting heads please point it out here so we may all address those issues together. Otherwise, lets get back to the one things that DEFINITELY unites us: beating the scrap out of the other factions.

"Autobot Strike Force? Insignificant to the Autobot War Council."

The Iacon Elite Guard are the head unit of Autobot War Council. The Autobot War Council, or AWC, was the first band of Autobots to form together to bring solidarity to the Autobot ranks after the Decepticon group, the Renagade Decepticon Dissadents or RDD, was formed up. Now after the Great Data Wipe that spread across Cybertron, they will again lead the Autobots to victory. A new rival Autobot group, the Autobot Strike Force or ASF, has risen from the ashes as well to challenge the AWC supremacy. They, however, will taught a lesson. No one messes with the AWC.

That's Evolution Prime's Team Stuff

After the events of the great wipeout, NextWave joined the ASF to better handle (in other words, wreck) the Decepticons, Maximals and Predacons. Additionally, the Autobot War Council, or AWC, had seemingly died out, thanks in no part to having an absent leader. Now that the AWC is back up, with greatly decreased numbers, they have apparently taken a somewhat hostile stance against the ASF, even stating menial threats like "teaching [the ASF] a lesson". The only lessons the ASF has learnt from them is how to screw up a group. How to reduce morale until it is nonexistent. How to claim to be responsible. Obviously, the AWC has degraded into a dysfunctional group, wandering in its self-delusion. Being highly concerned for the welfare of their fellow Autobots, the ASF has no choice but to snap them out of their delusion..... Before their senseless antics become a threat to the other Bots.

Den-O's




I could probably find more, but I won't. Either way, stuff like this is a bit frustrating to read.

Yeeeeeeahhh...EP and Den-0 could have handled that a lil better.

Considering though that this thread isn't busting at the seems with comments though, I don't think at this point it is an issue; however if you still feel that way Blurrz, do you have any thoughts on how to 'fix the situation'?

Blurrz wrote: I am not speaking for the ASF, nor will I ever speak for the AWC.

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While the ASF is united strongly along the lines of communication, I'm quite frankly sure that the AWC is definitely not.

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The AWC? Well, I'm frankly sure that they want the ASF gone right now. If I were them, I'm sure that they think the existence of the ASF is slowly killing away their new recruits, and taking away their current members.

For you saying that you aren't going to speak for the AWC, you sure are making a lot statements for the AWC.

Remember, you guys are the ones that decided to break away from the AWC, effectively splitting things. Things didn't have to be this way. If you say, that only I had power in the AWC, you would be dead wrong. Things were set up in council format, with crazyfists and devast8or. Plus not once did anyone of you guys come to me about getting things going. It seemed that most assumed that I would since that what was done in the past.

Plus I want to know why there is all this hate mongering towards me and the AWC. Do you think I didn't do enough to keep the AWC going? Do you think I was some power hungry a-hole? Did I sleep with your sister? I have done a lot for the AWC since its inception. I have always shared things with others. Dude, I don't even know your sister. I just want some answers because I believe I have always been fair to every AWC member.

Honestly, the Autobot unity could have been broughten up without any of this AWC vs ASF politics stuff anyways. There was no place for it here. Yes, I know I continued on the path of bringing it up, but only to answer some things and make a couple points. Now that I have made those, I will leave it be since clan politics are not supposed to be brought up here. I just want the differences the AWC and ASF to quit being brought up here. Feel free to discuss it with me personally, any AWC member, or on the AWC site.

Now back on topic. Why are we getting our butts beat? Simple, the 'Cons/Preds are more active than us. They play the game more, they post on the boards more and they get on messenger services more. They overwhelm us everywhere. What do we need to do get more active. For some, that may not be an option. The Autobot seem to have the more casual type of player. They play when they can. The 'Cons/Preds seem to the more hard core players. Now I am not saying we all have to be hard core players, but activity on the boards would be a great start. There are very few Autobot players who post in the forums. With the smaller amount of posters, the smaller our base there is to communicate and coordinate with. The 'Cons/Preds have a fairly large base.

So this is an invite to all the Autobot that are lurking out there, I invite you all to get active in the forums. We all would love you to get active on the boards like you are in the game. We would love to hear from you.

Blurrz wrote:

"Autobot Strike Force? Insignificant to the Autobot War Council."

The Iacon Elite Guard are the head unit of Autobot War Council. The Autobot War Council, or AWC, was the first band of Autobots to form together to bring solidarity to the Autobot ranks after the Decepticon group, the Renagade Decepticon Dissadents or RDD, was formed up. Now after the Great Data Wipe that spread across Cybertron, they will again lead the Autobots to victory. A new rival Autobot group, the Autobot Strike Force or ASF, has risen from the ashes as well to challenge the AWC supremacy. They, however, will taught a lesson. No one messes with the AWC.

That's Evolution Prime's Team Stuff



I could probably find more, but I won't. Either way, stuff like this is a bit frustrating to read.

Disparaging remarks removed from my team profile.

You know what else is frustrating to read or hear, personal public attack on myself with no provocation. Yes, I could have used better judgement, but in no way was that an attack on any one person. I have heard some thing said about me from ASF members the frustrates the hell out of me because they have come from nowhere. Take Den-O's remarks for example. They are personal attacks on me and the AWC while mine look and were intended as more of trash talk.

So you guys heed your own words before they become invalid.

we do have sheer numbers but that doesnt mean anything when we cant coordinate attacks

this whole ASFvs. AWC thing is really getting blown out of proportion if we cant work together as Autobots then the sub-factions are meaningless as there meant to bring us together not split us apart

everybody is calling this a rivalry are we not all AUTOBOTS? thats the faction we all chose and we must stick with it. So stop bickering and start working togethere its the only way were going to even have a chance right now

the ASF was created to try and bring more unity to the Bots so far its not doing anything but splitting us apart

hope all that can help with all this feuding

The problem is, in missions my team gets slaughtered but in the arena we hold our own. the same goes for other low-levels. so should we go into missions ang get killed, or level up a bit in the arena first?

You can get much bigger payouts in the missions now, even on a slaughter.

One of my missions I got over 600xp and engeron and the bots didn't win, but I got some great hits in on other level 1's.

JaAm wrote:The problem is, in missions my team gets slaughtered but in the arena we hold our own. the same goes for other low-levels. so should we go into missions ang get killed, or level up a bit in the arena first?

1. alt setups good?
2. using rammers? if so, switch to fighters & then strafers

sorry about my previous attack on EP
one of my weaker moments
wont happen again
ive changed my post back
To Autobot Unity and Supermacy
Lets get this juggernaut rolling again as a unit

nice work deathwatch.

It's Great to be back! I feel like I've missed so much since everything restartd, but now here we all are on the ground floor again! It was an honor to fight along side most of you before, and now it will be unbeleivably awesome to fight along side some bots that were way ahead of us.
I'll do my best to help out where I can

Cooter wrote:It's Great to be back! I feel like I've missed so much since everything restartd, but now here we all are on the ground floor again! It was an honor to fight along side most of you before, and now it will be unbeleivably awesome to fight along side some bots that were way ahead of us.
I'll do my best to help out where I can

Welcome back!

Been ages since I saw ya around....

Cooter wrote:...fight along side some bots that were way ahead of us...

So many memories

Tifereth wrote:

Cooter wrote:...fight along side some bots that were way ahead of us...

So many memories

he wasn't referring to u

devast8or wrote:

Tifereth wrote:

Cooter wrote:...fight along side some bots that were way ahead of us...

So many memories

he wasn't referring to u

da!