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Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:51 pm
by Kickyourassacons
I thought we should create another branch of strategy to Strafe, Ram, and Aviod. So lets talk how we can maxamize these tactics.

This is what I know so far:

Strength --- Ram
Intelligence --- Repair
Speed --- Avoid
Firepower --- Strafe

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:01 pm
by Wingspan
Ram works such that if the attacker's Strength > target's Strength there is a probability for the target to be stunned; stuns seem to take the target out for approximately 1 minute of performing actions. While stunned they may still Avoid attacks or simply be missed but they will perform no attacks. Given the nature of the current game, beating some target's Strength will be very difficult; you have to weigh your opponents and get to be one Strength higher.

All tactics works such that a higher value increases the probability of using that tactic when it's "your turn" to attack; Strafe works such that not only does probability to use the tactic increase but the quantity of targets increases.

Not sure if Speed actually makes Avoid better nor occur more often - they just go well together as the Speed/Avoid combo has more hits and is more often missed in addition to the Avoids. Avoid works as a good complimentary, defensive tactic though. The 50xp per Avoid is nice, but it is better still when it can setup additional attacks that can lead to victories. For example, the Ram/Avoid combo is great in the Arena because it leads (a) winning, (b) more XP from avoids, (c) high Strength Ram overflow damage; at Level 2 there can be an average of 450 - 650xp from Arena fights (assuming Strength is high enough).

And of course, repair is epic win with proper coordination.

More ramblings later...

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:27 pm
by neliz
I don't think speed boosts avoid but it simply increases your changes of not being hit since the attacker first has to check against your avoid, if successful, he then gets to check against your speed for hit/miss

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:36 pm
by Wingspan
Always thought it was the other way... If hit would succeed, does Avoid kick in? Either way you're right though, they compliment each other.

Other thoughts on how to best utilize tactics? Any experience (for example) what Firepower / Strafe combos work best together? Strength / Ram? At various levels?

It can't only be an absent Autobot and renegade Predacon who have thoughts for Autobot combat, can it? :)

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:04 am
by neliz
lol.. looks like it though :D

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:11 am
by devast8or
Wingspan wrote:It can't only be an absent Autobot and renegade Predacon who have thoughts for Autobot combat, can it? :)


*looks around this place*

I'm with neliz on this one :lol:

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:39 am
by neliz
devast8or wrote:
Wingspan wrote:It can't only be an absent Autobot and renegade Predacon who have thoughts for Autobot combat, can it? :)


*looks around this place*

I'm with neliz on this one :lol:


I think we should use our Gundam model kits now to overpower the 'Cons, it's what they least expect.

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:16 pm
by devast8or
neliz wrote:
devast8or wrote:
Wingspan wrote:It can't only be an absent Autobot and renegade Predacon who have thoughts for Autobot combat, can it? :)


*looks around this place*

I'm with neliz on this one :lol:


I think we should use our Gundam model kits now to overpower the 'Cons, it's what they least expect.

that's the best idea i've heard from iacon in a long time...

alternatively, we could offer the cons some gundam model kits as a "gift"...like the ol' Trojan horse thing :-?

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:19 pm
by neliz
Or we could give them Trojans so they could do a horse.. wait.. where does that leave the Gundams...

your idea is better devy

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:04 am
by ChocolateThunder
How about a heart shaped thermal detonator for Valentine's Day?

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:39 am
by devast8or
ChocolateThunder wrote:How about a heart shaped thermal detonator for Valentine's Day?

since ur the expert, cover it in chocolate :P

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:54 pm
by neliz
Since Wingspan is no longer able to access iAcon, can I declare this topic "brain dead?"

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:29 am
by MagnusLabel
neliz wrote:Since Wingspan is no longer able to access iAcon, can I declare this topic "brain dead?"

But we still have enough brains 8)

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:10 pm
by neliz
MagnusLabel wrote:
neliz wrote:Since Wingspan is no longer able to access iAcon, can I declare this topic "brain dead?"

But we still have enough brains 8)


but we sure die a lot

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:55 pm
by Evolution Prime
I hope these are still valid as well. Not sure with the adjustments made. So these may be outdated. Still maybe able to help out.

Strafe
frequency= ([strafe] x 3) / 100
First shot Damage% = RANDOM[8~25] x [1+(FP x 0.1)] / [1+(End x 0.1)]
Following Shot damage% = RANDOM[5~10] x [1+(FP x 0.1)]/ [1+(End x 0.1)]

Ram
frequency= ([ram] x 3) / 100
Ram Damage% = RANDOM[19~33] x [1+(Str x 0.1)] / [1+(End x 0.1)]

Avoid
avoid rate=(AVD*0.03)*(1+(SPD/10)

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:07 pm
by neliz
thanks for these and the repair formulas.

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:49 pm
by Kickyourassacons
If I have 6 str and 0 fpr, it is pointless to equip a weapon right?

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:33 pm
by Evolution Prime
Kickyourassacons wrote:If I have 6 str and 0 fpr, it is pointless to equip a weapon right?


Weapon Damage
% Damage = RANDOM[minD~maxD] x [1+(Str x 0.1)] x [1.5-(End x 0.1)] x [Armor]

Accuracy
([attacker's speed] - [defender's speed] + 16)/ 20

Weapon Ranges
Light = 1-5%
medium = 6-10%
heavy = 11-15%
very heavy = 16-20%
devastating = 21-25%
Incredible = >26%

Like I stated before, I don't know if this is the current setup with the changes were made. Still should give some help.

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:10 pm
by Nickolai
Kickyourassacons wrote:If I have 6 str and 0 fpr, it is pointless to equip a weapon right?


Yep. ESPECIALLY the "Light to whatever" ones. Your minimum barehanded damage (around 18%) gets overridden by the weapon's minimum (1% XD).

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:13 pm
by Kickyourassacons
good, thank you, I have had it that way for awhile

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:56 pm
by Kickyourassacons
good, thank you, I have had it that way for awhile

Re: Strafe, Ram, and Avoid - Autobot Strategy

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:45 am
by devast8or
Kickyourassacons wrote:If I have 6 str and 0 fpr, it is pointless to equip a weapon right?

"never underestimate the power of the nuclear knuckles..." - The Collector :grin: