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Well, you guys helped so much with my lvl 6 I was going to run this config by for the lvl 7 tourney. Take a look and let me know where you think I can tweak it.

alt:heavy vehicle
str:10
int:0
spd:10
end:9
rank:6
cou:7
fire:9
skl:3 (to start then up to 4 asap for the acid rainmaker)
Ram:10

Thanks
Big CT

Its a solid set up for a rammer. You have your stregth and speed maxed for your attacks and your endurance and rank high for survivability. Courage is reasonably high still, though you sacrificed some for a weapon.

Speaking of weapons, do you know how the acid rainmaker performs. Such as does it miss a lot or how much damage it does? What I learned from last round was it seemed the best performers went weaponless since everyone had high endurance and reasonably effective armor.

You might be better served to be a pure strafer with a setup if you want a high firepower weapon so your high firepower is used both for a high powered weapon and for strafing runs. If you do decide to go that way, set strength at 7 and courage at 9 and move firepower up to 10 while keeping everything else the same. If found that pure rammers did better weaponless and relied upon their ram as their main weapon because punches, kicks, and weapon dammage was held low due to the higher endurance and armor encountered.

ChocolateThunder wrote:Well, you guys helped so much with my lvl 6 I was going to run this config by for the lvl 7 tourney. Take a look and let me know where you think I can tweak it.

alt:heavy vehicle
str:10
int:0
spd:10
end:9
rank:6
cou:7
fire:9
skl:3 (to start then up to 4 asap for the acid rainmaker)
Ram:10

Thanks
Big CT

The acid rainmaker is not a good weapon, I had it last time round and even though it says no recharge it took forever to get off a single shot which missed more often than not even though I had speed 10.

A gatling gun (fp 10 sk 3) would be a better choice if you can fiddle the points to get fp 10 sk 3, also could you post the exp you used to get this config so we can see how much you have left over?

Even if you go for pure strafe - keep strength at 10 or you will be stunned when rammed - i learned this the hard way.

Anyways guys here is my potential config this time round:

alt:hunter
str:10
int:0
spd:10
end:7
rank:6
cou:8
fire:10
skl:2
Strafe: 9 (rising to 10 when i get enough exp)
avoid: 4

exp used
Initial : 24,548,000
plus 1 upgrade 25,060,000

weapon: laser guided sword

Solid set up there Light Blade. Only concern is your endurance level. You are going to want that at bit higher. I know you stated you want to keep strength at 10, but you may want to look at sacrificing one point of it. That way you are then able to raise endurance to 8 and then get your strafe to 10 right away. You at this level, you really want your main tactic to be maxed out.

Evolution Prime wrote:Solid set up there Light Blade. Only concern is your endurance level. You are going to want that at bit higher. I know you stated you want to keep strength at 10, but you may want to look at sacrificing one point of it. That way you are then able to raise endurance to 8 and then get your strafe to 10 right away. You at this level, you really want your main tactic to be maxed out.

What if I took away a point in speed instead?

or I could swap courage/endurance around

Here is my setup for round 2

alt mode - medium vehicle
str - 10
int - 0
spd - 10
end - 10
rank - 6
cou - 8
fire - 0
skl - 0
Avoid - 10
Ram - 10
Experience spent: 24,580,500xp
Level 7 [+4 to level 8]


I ditched my gun last round after 2 fights and had no armor due to investing in firepower. I think I learned from my mistakes.

Firebird wrote:Here is my setup for round 2

alt mode - medium vehicle
str - 10
int - 0
spd - 10
end - 10
rank - 6
cou - 8
fire - 0
skl - 0
Avoid - 10
Ram - 10
Experience spent: 24,580,500xp
Level 7 [+4 to level 8]


I ditched my gun last round after 2 fights and had no armor due to investing in firepower. I think I learned from my mistakes.

Nice set up! Can't really see anything wrong with it, might be worth putting those extra three points in firepower anyway just to keep your options open once the tournament starts...

Light Blade wrote:

Evolution Prime wrote:Solid set up there Light Blade. Only concern is your endurance level. You are going to want that at bit higher. I know you stated you want to keep strength at 10, but you may want to look at sacrificing one point of it. That way you are then able to raise endurance to 8 and then get your strafe to 10 right away. You at this level, you really want your main tactic to be maxed out.

What if I took away a point in speed instead?

or I could swap courage/endurance around

You almost want speed maxed out in any configuration, but it is an option to take away a point from that instead. The very least you want is 9 in speed because most are going to have it maxed out.

Swapping courage and endurance it also another option, though you still should have courage at 8. I was just suggesting a way to get endurance and strafe moved up at the same time sith out sacrificing too much.

ITs all up to you. These are only suggestions.

Firebird wrote:Here is my setup for round 2

alt mode - medium vehicle
str - 10
int - 0
spd - 10
end - 10
rank - 6
cou - 8
fire - 0
skl - 0
Avoid - 10
Ram - 10
Experience spent: 24,580,500xp
Level 7 [+4 to level 8]


I ditched my gun last round after 2 fights and had no armor due to investing in firepower. I think I learned from my mistakes.

That is a very solid set up for a dual tactic.

Thanks for the comments guys!

I think this is a much more solid setup than the one I made last tournament.

Evolution Prime wrote:

Light Blade wrote:

Evolution Prime wrote:Solid set up there Light Blade. Only concern is your endurance level. You are going to want that at bit higher. I know you stated you want to keep strength at 10, but you may want to look at sacrificing one point of it. That way you are then able to raise endurance to 8 and then get your strafe to 10 right away. You at this level, you really want your main tactic to be maxed out.

What if I took away a point in speed instead?

or I could swap courage/endurance around

You almost want speed maxed out in any configuration, but it is an option to take away a point from that instead. The very least you want is 9 in speed because most are going to have it maxed out.

Swapping courage and endurance it also another option, though you still should have courage at 8. I was just suggesting a way to get endurance and strafe moved up at the same time sith out sacrificing too much.

ITs all up to you. These are only suggestions.

Do you know the chance of getting stunned by Ram if I'm at strength 9 as opposed to 10, I'm trying to weigh up the costs/ benefits of which points to move around, the stats will help. Thanks

As far as I know that is still an unknown on what the effects of stun are. Let me do some research and get back to you. I might know someone who does.

Thanks EP much appreciated

My problem was trying to get to lvl 7 with only 25mil xp. I'm thinking the best alts to use will be the ram/avoid dual tactic ones because a single tactic will almost force you to use a weapon just to make it to level 7. I'm a believer in using nuclear knuckles so I would rather NOT have to use a weapon if I can make an alt work that way.

Here's what I've got in mind:
alt:Medium Vehicle
str:10
int:0
spd:10
end:10
rnk:6
cour:8
frp:0
skl:0
ram:10
avoid:5

total xp used: 21,108,500
Comments?

ChocolateThunder wrote:My problem was trying to get to lvl 7 with only 25mil xp. I'm thinking the best alts to use will be the ram/avoid dual tactic ones because a single tactic will almost force you to use a weapon just to make it to level 7. I'm a believer in using nuclear knuckles so I would rather NOT have to use a weapon if I can make an alt work that way.

Here's what I've got in mind:
alt:Medium Vehicle
str:10
int:0
spd:10
end:10
rnk:6
cour:8
frp:0
skl:0
ram:10
avoid:5

total xp used: 21,108,500
Comments?

have you considered a ram strafe combo - could be a bit exp heavy but it could prove useful.

Other wise you set-up looks ace, if only we could test them before hand. I reckon you've got a winning set up there CT nice work!

With a ram/strafe set up, not only you have to worry about strength for your ram, but you have to worry about firepower for strafe. I think you would be hard pressed to get an an outstanding set up for that with only 25 million. Not saying you can't make a decent one, just not as effective as you may want it for this. A pure rammer will let you a lot of damage with just its ram, but if you trigger strafe and it isn't at full power you might not do the damage you would with if it just triggered ram.

I think if you go dual tactic the best bet would be a ram/avoid or a strafe/avoid combo because hopefully you can avoid one of their attacks and then lay one on them of yours.

heres what im thinkin of for my Wing-Saber

Strength: 7
Intelligence: 0
Speed 10
Endurance 10
Rank 6
Courage 10
Firepower 8
Skill 1

Avoid 9
Strafe 6

not sure on armor or weapon yet

im not sure about the dual tactic thing yet ive done it once and it killed that bot in scores so I might remove some avoid to add some skill.

whaddy u guys think?

Orion_Prime48 wrote:heres what im thinkin of for my Wing-Saber

Strength: 7
Intelligence: 0
Speed 10
Endurance 10
Rank 6
Courage 10
Firepower 8
Skill 1

Avoid 9
Strafe 6

not sure on armor or weapon yet

im not sure about the dual tactic thing yet ive done it once and it killed that bot in scores so I might remove some avoid to add some skill.

whaddy u guys think?

I'd advise against making avoid your primary tactic - I tried that in round one and I was soundly whipped. It's also an idea to go through the weapons list so you have at least some idea of what you may use - if your going to use a strafer you should have FP 10 anyway; I'd recommend getting skill 3 so you can use the Gatling gun (FP 10, SK 3) - it's a very effective weapon.

Unless your loaded on energon rank six for armor is about all you want as anything higher is very expensive to equip - so that's fine and probably what most others will be using

I'd suggest you try playing around with your stats a little, try to get strafe to 10 (take the points away from avoid if you can first of all before reducing your main stats). I think your decision of high speed and endurance will help - good call there, try not to sacrifice strength to much either or you'll be vulnerable to being stunned, which will put a damper on your chances; you don't want to go lower than 7 anyway.

Hope that helped.

hmmm thats a good point lol thnx.

gotta say I feel like a n00b with all these questions guess it comes from me never being higher than a level 3 lol

Alt: Fighter
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 0
Speed 10
Endurance 10
Rank 6
Courage 9
Firepower 9
Skill 3

Avoid 0
Strafe 7

heres what I got now seems like its good and I cant go any higher on anything or ill go over 25mill

but if I take 1 off courage I can get 10 frp

Orion_Prime48 wrote:Alt: Fighter
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 0
Speed 10
Endurance 10
Rank 6
Courage 9
Firepower 9
Skill 3

Avoid 0
Strafe 7

heres what I got now seems like its good and I cant go any higher on anything or ill go over 25mill

but if I take 1 off courage I can get 10 frp

I'd do that - courage 8 will still be good. If you don't have FP 10 there is no point in the skill 3 so you might as well stick those points back into avoid - without FP 10 they serve no real purpose

If you want to reduce Exp costs try switching to an alt mode with a lower cost for Strafe eg: Airplane alt mode base cost is 3,000 and the Weapon alt mode base cost for Strafe is only 1000 that should allow you to max out strafe if you have enough spare points left over

If your still short on exp you could consider taking one point off of endurance but I don't think you'll need to.

This config is better than your last one - but I'd suggest if you really want to cause some big damage you've got to somehow max out strafe. Otherwise it's a solid setup you'll have great survivability in the arena - I'm just worried you don't have enough offensive power to fully use the advantages you've given yourself

only way I can get to 10 strafe is if I drop crg to 8 and End to 9

Alt: Fighter
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 0
Speed 10
Endurance 9
Rank 6
Courage 8
Firepower 10
Skill 3

Avoid 0
Strafe 10

and I could make him dual tactic cause it leaves me with 2 mill extra which would let him have 4 avoid with no higher cause it would bring me into level 8. overall that sounds like a damn good setup

and this is the most ive posted on these forums in almost a year lol

just because I did average last round I'm going to go out on a limb this time,...and plus I won't be having toooo much time to devote to the game for awhile anyways this summer.

I decided to go with a strafe/repair setup haha,..mainly because I hadn't seen ANYONE have a repair setup last round at all,...I know it's mainly geared towards the missions and not areana matches, but again,...I'm just playin around a bit heh.

here's my setup

Aerial Rescue Vehicle
Experience spent: 18,183,500xp
Number of upgrades: 67
Level: 7 (+1 to L8)

Strength 10
Intelligence 5
Speed 10
Endurance 7
Rank 6
Courage 6
Firepower 9
Skill 0
Repair* 4
Strafe* 10

no weapon just bare knuckles and a BAD temper
and 10 tons of Nucleon Tempered Titanium armour

vaporretarder wrote:just because I did average last round I'm going to go out on a limb this time,...and plus I won't be having toooo much time to devote to the game for awhile anyways this summer.

I decided to go with a strafe/repair setup haha,..mainly because I hadn't seen ANYONE have a repair setup last round at all,...I know it's mainly geared towards the missions and not areana matches, but again,...I'm just playin around a bit heh.

here's my setup

Aerial Rescue Vehicle
Experience spent: 18,183,500xp
Number of upgrades: 67
Level: 7 (+1 to L8)

Strength 10
Intelligence 5
Speed 10
Endurance 7
Rank 6
Courage 6
Firepower 9
Skill 0
Repair* 4
Strafe* 10

no weapon just bare knuckles and a BAD temper
and 10 tons of Nucleon Tempered Titanium armour

Are we getting missions this time around?

Orion_Prime48 wrote:only way I can get to 10 strafe is if I drop crg to 8 and End to 9

Alt: Fighter
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 0
Speed 10
Endurance 9
Rank 6
Courage 8
Firepower 10
Skill 3

Avoid 0
Strafe 10

and I could make him dual tactic cause it leaves me with 2 mill extra which would let him have 4 avoid with no higher cause it would bring me into level 8. overall that sounds like a damn good setup

and this is the most ive posted on these forums in almost a year lol

Have you tried changing alt mode? The cheaper strafe costs might let you keep endurance 10, otherwise I think your set up seems sorted, good luck!

Light Blade wrote:

vaporretarder wrote:just because I did average last round I'm going to go out on a limb this time,...and plus I won't be having toooo much time to devote to the game for awhile anyways this summer.

I decided to go with a strafe/repair setup haha,..mainly because I hadn't seen ANYONE have a repair setup last round at all,...I know it's mainly geared towards the missions and not areana matches, but again,...I'm just playin around a bit heh.

here's my setup

Aerial Rescue Vehicle
Experience spent: 18,183,500xp
Number of upgrades: 67
Level: 7 (+1 to L8)

Strength 10
Intelligence 5
Speed 10
Endurance 7
Rank 6
Courage 6
Firepower 9
Skill 0
Repair* 4
Strafe* 10

no weapon just bare knuckles and a BAD temper
and 10 tons of Nucleon Tempered Titanium armour

Are we getting missions this time around?

Orion_Prime48 wrote:only way I can get to 10 strafe is if I drop crg to 8 and End to 9

Alt: Fighter
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 0
Speed 10
Endurance 9
Rank 6
Courage 8
Firepower 10
Skill 3

Avoid 0
Strafe 10

and I could make him dual tactic cause it leaves me with 2 mill extra which would let him have 4 avoid with no higher cause it would bring me into level 8. overall that sounds like a damn good setup

and this is the most ive posted on these forums in almost a year lol

Have you tried changing alt mode? The cheaper strafe costs might let you keep endurance 10, otherwise I think your set up seems sorted, good luck!

I WISH we'd get missions, but I severely doubt it,....I'm just doing a strafe/repair bot for laughs .....although it probably would kick MUCH decepticon tail in a mission format