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Damn it bots

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:45 pm
by _Anshin_
Damn it bots. We can get more XP/Energon if we just would stick together. Right now I am trying to complete missions and are a dozen autobots just sitting in the arena while we are getting outnumbered 2 to 1 in the missions. Lets start trying to band together.

I tell you what, if you see one of my bots in a mission send me a message or post here and we can start a group where we join each others missions.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:58 pm
by Neo Crusader
*Neo Crusader stops lurking*

Man, the biggest problem isn't that people put they're bots in the arena. The problem is people who put their bots in the arena generally don't post/participate in these discussions/forum threads.

*Neo Crusader resumes lurking*

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:08 pm
by _Anshin_
Neo Crusader wrote:*Neo Crusader stops lurking*

Man, the biggest problem isn't that people put they're bots in the arena. The problem is people who put their bots in the arena generally don't post/participate in these discussions/forum threads.

*Neo Crusader resumes lurking*


Damn it... now I have to work 2x as hard to get a level and keep those cons under my heel.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:24 pm
by Burn
Boy I miss threads like these ...

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:29 pm
by _Anshin_
I could start another thread whining about how the game favors cons and the sides are unevenly balanced if you really want a trip down memory lane :)

Seriously I think I will just start offering Energon to try to get those that still play some more incentive to help me defeat my enemies.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:14 pm
by Burn
_Anshin_ wrote:I could start another thread whining about how the game favors cons and the sides are unevenly balanced if you really want a trip down memory lane :)


You could, but as in the past, you'd have to be reminded THAT IT HAPPENS TO BOTH SIDES.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:31 am
by _Anshin_
Bah. That's no fun.
But since you did mention it... can you let the hours slip that it will favor my side ?

:D

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:45 pm
by bionic_radical
hang in there.

ill be more help once i level up a bit. im sure its the same with the others. lemme know where i can help.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:48 pm
by _Anshin_
bionic_radical wrote:hang in there.

ill be more help once i level up a bit. im sure its the same with the others. lemme know where i can help.


Sound good man, let me know if you need energon. I am going to try to do something that may father more support for our cause

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:54 pm
by bionic_radical
tight.

i plucked up two met strikes today. dunno if they're any good, but if one can help ya...

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:30 am
by Electron
i've started playing again after forgetting about the game, hopefully i can help when i can

but you will never find me in the arena

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:34 am
by _Anshin_
Awesome. I don't hate the arena, however I think that its really only got a place for rank 0 so that you don't loose too much energon when you don't have it.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:16 pm
by -Soundwave-
_Anshin_ wrote:Awesome. I don't hate the arena, however I think that its really only got a place for rank 0 so that you don't loose too much energon when you don't have it.

That's kind of how I see the arena as well. Besides I love getting a ton of XP for suicide missions.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:31 pm
by _Anshin_
Yeah, unfortunately for me right now suicide missions are just that. March is a bad month as I have spent the first week in it in the CR chamber more than anything. I can't tell you how I absolutely hate that some of my bots (especially those with high courage) are just sitting in a fight or go into a fight to get wiped in the first minute. Still I am hoping to rectify that in 9 - 12 days.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:35 pm
by -Soundwave-
After having had a look at your bots it is interesting. I won't comment since I know your working things out on your own, but keep it up and it will pay off.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:52 am
by _Anshin_
Sustain wrote:After having had a look at your bots it is interesting. I won't comment since I know your working things out on your own, but keep it up and it will pay off.

Well if you see me doing something wrong or heading in the wrong direction please feel free to enlighten me. I am not above learning and try very hard to suppress my hubris.

The numbers I am crunching may point me into a direct, but since I am basing them off of basic math and assumptions as a computer science person this does not mean my math or basic assumptions aren't wrong and leading me down the wrong direction. Learning from your experience or anybody else may actually help prove or correct my findings.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:12 am
by Fortress Rodimus
I am only at level 0 but i am going into missions like crazy and going to arean if there are no missions for me so as soon as i am leveled up i will help you out. just got to keep up the fight to keep back the cons.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:19 am
by _Anshin_
Fortress Rodimus wrote:I am only at level 0 but i am going into missions like crazy and going to arean if there are no missions for me so as soon as i am leveled up i will help you out. just got to keep up the fight to keep back the cons.

Thanks. Right now the past two weeks have been crazy as most of the level 1 /2 matches I have been vastly outnumbered in favor of the Cons. At level 0 I didn't see that many cons and at 3 I am starting to see an even number. I blame this however on a few bots that are just leveling by staying in the Arena. Two teams in fact have a full squad of 6 sitting in the Arena consistently while the few bots out there and I fight the loosing battle.

Let me know if you need help with anything or data for builds or timing. As for me, I am giving it till the end of this week before I abandon the gather and boost XP strategy and just level my level one bots to level two to balance out some of the slaughter they are receiving.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:51 pm
by Fortress Rodimus
Thanks. Right now i am just trying to work on my xp it is coming slowly but you know unless there is any other way to level up it is where i am stuck at.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:58 pm
by _Anshin_
Fortress Rodimus wrote:Thanks. Right now i am just trying to work on my xp it is coming slowly but you know unless there is any other way to level up it is where i am stuck at.



Well I have been experimenting with XP gain and have come up with a few rules that I follow if I can.

I can say that your builds and tactics make a huge difference. For example at Level 0 tactics made 0 difference 70% of the time. The bots that I was planning to build to be rammers, however did much better than repairs or strafers. The ones that looked the most promising however at level 0 were the avoiders. While my rammers and avoiders would be among the last bots standing the avoiders tend to have spent less time in the CR chambers and would almost always have more XP.

Once I promoted Squad A (first 6) to Rank 1 Tactics became much bigger part of strategy. They actually became noticeable on which bots survived in battle and what XP was earned. Here the Rammers took the Avoiders over for XP and healers and strafers were still a liability. Granted on the Hell missions that you will see (All levels 1 - 10) there was a larger range in there. I've pulled some 23kxp missions on some of those Hell missions, however those are a crap shoot. Strafers and Healers have a great turn around around level 3 from what I have seen, but the survivability is still lower than that of a rammer.

To get the most XP I have found spec and build the bot to survive. My Rammers that have high STR and Speed and the Armor to match tend to have the highest survivability. Right now my best XP draws right now are the rammer builds.

Currently I have this:
Level 3: Rammer and Strafer. Rammer is 12-30k a day
Strafer is 6-12k a day
Level 2: Rammer, Strafe, Avoider.
Rammer/avoider build: 10-20k a day
Strafer: 5-14k a day
Avoider: 10-15k a day

Level 1: Rammer, Strafer, Avoider, Healer(changed to dual strafer / avoider over the weekend)
Rammer: 5-8k a day
Strafer: 1-4k a day
Avoider: 3-6k a day
Healer: 1-2k a day
Strafer / avoider: 2-4k a day

Level 0 (no longer have)
Best Survivability came from a
3Str 1ram (Best for Arena)
3Speed 1avoid (highest XP)
2Str 2speed

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:07 pm
by Sephiroth Crescent
I'm trying to help you man..

But my 'Bots are still pretty low level yet also :(

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:06 am
by _Anshin_
Its all good man. Right now I have a bad set of builds... no matter how much I have help it won't matter.
Gotta rebuild this weekend.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:27 am
by ChocolateThunder
I've started playing again after some time away from the game but I'm still all lvl 1. After the total reset I haven't been able to bring myself to be as active as I once was. If I can help in missions I will. My main problem is I can't remember where or what I was trying to do with the stats of my new team.
CT

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:38 am
by _Anshin_
ChocolateThunder wrote:I've started playing again after some time away from the game but I'm still all lvl 1. After the total reset I haven't been able to bring myself to be as active as I once was. If I can help in missions I will. My main problem is I can't remember where or what I was trying to do with the stats of my new team.
CT

Well if you want help in any of your missions I can send some 2s in as protection or 1s in as shields.

Re: Damn it bots

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:16 am
by ChocolateThunder
I appreciate the help. I seem to play during the heavy 'con coverage times of the day so I'll do what I can to cover you as well.
CT