Re: Canada Transformers sightings
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:22 am
I don't know about you chaps, but a boycott would be a good idea, it would bring 'em prices right down
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BattleConvoy wrote:I don't know about you chaps, but a boycott would be a good idea, it would bring 'em prices right down
UltraMarginal wrote:william-james88 wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:Remember back when they blamed the price hikes on oil prices? Well oil prices dropped but Hasbro's prices keep rising.
They said the resin price had gone up, or the oil to make the resin. In any case, the oil referred there isnt the same we use for fuel. They are two different oils with different prices so the price of fuel oil (the one you reffer to) was never related to the price of plastic toys (at least not moreso than anything else).
Doesnt change how much these prices suck though
Plastics and petrol/gas/diesel are all by products of crude oil.
Oil prices are an important factor in determining the price of resins, but they are not the only factor, said James Ray, a senior consultant with ICIS, who also spoke at the conference organized by Plastics News.
Ray said the farther along the supply chain from the refinery, the less impact oil prices have on costs. That’s because each step adds its own expenses to the mix.
“It gets down the value chain where the impact of the oil is increasingly insignificant. And that’s because there’s profits, there’s overhead, there’s logistics, distribution costs and things like that,” he told the crowd.
He pointed to the production of polypropylene as an example, indicating there are about four steps from refining to the creation of PP that add costs and impact pricing.
-Kanrabat- wrote:BattleConvoy wrote:I don't know about you chaps, but a boycott would be a good idea, it would bring 'em prices right down
It only work in a fantasy world.
BattleConvoy wrote:
How come?
A boycott would put Hasbro back in their place.
A boycott would work if we all stopped buying the hasbro versions of transformers.
(If you must buy TLK, then Takara Tomy is your friend)
BattleConvoy wrote:#ScrewyouHasbro
BattleConvoy wrote:maybe get the GI JOE and the My little pony fans involved? xD
Deadput wrote:BattleConvoy wrote:Your also implying that Takara wouldn't do the same thing...and are somehow a "better" company and probably only because they have more paint which is balance out by there being less figures made compared to Hasbro who appeals and sells to a lot more people then Takara
Deadput wrote:BattleConvoy wrote:
How come?
A boycott would put Hasbro back in their place.
A boycott would work if we all stopped buying the hasbro versions of transformers.
(If you must buy TLK, then Takara Tomy is your friend)
Because welcome to reality business are only here for your money nothing more nothing less...sometimes their efforts will work or interest you but sometimes they won't, some of the individual employees in the company will put in more care into their work but as a whole the company doesn't really care besides getting money like all other work places.
Hasbro is already in their place and have been since the start...your forgetting about all the kids who are the reason Transformers are made in the first place and all the other people who are not on the forums who will unlikely stop buying.
Your also implying that Takara wouldn't do the same thing...and are somehow a "better" company and probably only because they have more paint which is balance out by there being less figures made compared to Hasbro who appeals and sells to a lot more people then TakaraBattleConvoy wrote:#ScrewyouHasbro
How mature of you...that totally is going to make Hasbro listen and not think this sort of attitude is spoiled.BattleConvoy wrote:maybe get the GI JOE and the My little pony fans involved? xD
What?
That's implying they don't already not buy Transformers.
Yeah that's not going to happen but that's a cool dream you have there.BattleConvoy wrote:GI JOE And My little pony are both hasbro properties, so if collectors, including Star Wars, GI JOE, MLP, Disney princess fans, (Mind you, it would have to be a lot of people) stop buying hasbro products then hasbro would notice.
Says who...you?BattleConvoy wrote:most fans buy them because otherwise they are considered "not true fans".
BattleConvoy wrote: Like I said, Takara Tomy, is a better place to buy TF's from, because unlike Hasbro, they care about the fanbase.
BattleConvoy wrote:Why do you think that Hasbro won't release G1 megs, MP megs (both of 'em)?
Toy Gun laws ya say?
Nah, they can release it as an "adult collectible" maybe as an Amazon exclusive? (How come 3rd party can release this )
But Hasbro are too "Politically Correct" to release such a toy, and have no guts.
They are scared of the media finding out and making a HUGE story out of it!
Tfwiki wrote:Megatron is probably the most troubled Transformer toy in all of Transformer history, due to being originally Japanese which had different toy laws, he is frequently banned due to being a realistic gun while lacking an orange cap to indicate it's not a real gun. Some countries banned it or deemed it illegal due to criminals or kids misusing it as a real gun and terrorizing others, or law enforcement mistaking it for a real firearm and shooting innocent people dead (as has happened multiple times in the past). For you American fans, it may actually be easier to own a real Walther P-38 handgun than this original Megatron toy.
Yeah you can stop with that generalization not all kids have video games (I only got an Xbox when I was a teenager because strict parents and money) not all kids have interest in those things, parents can be strict or their too poor to buy consoles but not too poor to buy a 20 dollar toy.BattleConvoy wrote:And finally, most kids (above the age of 5) don't buy toys, they play video games, so your point is not completely accurate Deadput.
Hasbro only caters for kids aged 2 with the ONE STEP CHANGERS (ie- all of RID)
I was teased and condemned for bringing my Transformers to school and I know of others who have had that happen so this is nothing new Hasbro hasn't changed much from the 80's or the 2000's this you only think this is "babyfication" is because of the cheaper plastic these days which isn't really something Hasbro can do much about and them introducing more gimmick lines which there were plenty of them back in the old days.BattleConvoy wrote: Is it any wonder why I get called a "baby" by my friends because of Hasbro's "Babyfication" of transformers.
Have I made my point clear Deadput?
Deadput wrote:Yeah that's not going to happen but that's a cool dream you have there.BattleConvoy wrote:GI JOE And My little pony are both hasbro properties, so if collectors, including Star Wars, GI JOE, MLP, Disney princess fans, (Mind you, it would have to be a lot of people) stop buying hasbro products then hasbro would notice.Says who...you?BattleConvoy wrote:most fans buy them because otherwise they are considered "not true fans".
I don't even have to words to talk about how ridicolous that reasoning is...seriously I'm dumbfounded anyone could think this seriously.BattleConvoy wrote: Like I said, Takara Tomy, is a better place to buy TF's from, because unlike Hasbro, they care about the fanbase.
I just said in the other post that they don't care anymore then Hasbro does like every company in the entire world.
What have they done besides put more paint on a toy their going to be selling to a more limited audience?
They want your money but they don't care about you or anyone else who buys their stuff because we are only customers whose only purpose is to fork over money so people get paid money so they can fork over money to other companies so their employees get paid and so on.BattleConvoy wrote:Why do you think that Hasbro won't release G1 megs, MP megs (both of 'em)?
Toy Gun laws ya say?
Nah, they can release it as an "adult collectible" maybe as an Amazon exclusive? (How come 3rd party can release this )
But Hasbro are too "Politically Correct" to release such a toy, and have no guts.
They are scared of the media finding out and making a HUGE story out of it!
THEY CAN'T SELL THE DAMN TOY IN NORTH AMERICA BECAUSE OF THE GUN LAWS IT'S ILLEGAL!!! People including kids have been shot by cops for carrying the original Megatron around in gun mode.
There is no conspiracy theory or being scared of the media...this is the same company who makes nerf guns and GI Joe which is a war toy series.
Third Parties can release their Megatron's because they don't go by the same rules as Hasbro and other official companies do with their figures.
Here is Tfwiki's summery of whyTfwiki wrote:Megatron is probably the most troubled Transformer toy in all of Transformer history, due to being originally Japanese which had different toy laws, he is frequently banned due to being a realistic gun while lacking an orange cap to indicate it's not a real gun. Some countries banned it or deemed it illegal due to criminals or kids misusing it as a real gun and terrorizing others, or law enforcement mistaking it for a real firearm and shooting innocent people dead (as has happened multiple times in the past). For you American fans, it may actually be easier to own a real Walther P-38 handgun than this original Megatron toy.Yeah you can stop with that generalization not all kids have video games (I only got an Xbox when I was a teenager because strict parents and money) not all kids have interest in those things, parents can be strict or their too poor to buy consoles but not too poor to buy a 20 dollar toy.BattleConvoy wrote:And finally, most kids (above the age of 5) don't buy toys, they play video games, so your point is not completely accurate Deadput.
Hasbro only caters for kids aged 2 with the ONE STEP CHANGERS (ie- all of RID)
Plus you can play video games and toys, use a smart phone and watch movies while hanging out with friends or going outside...because most kids don't just do one thing all day all week.
Plus good on Hasbro sticking with it's intended audience and not a bunch of spoiled entitled fans like us.
There is a reason fan is short for fanaticI was teased and condemned for bringing my Transformers to school and I know of others who have had that happen so this is nothing new Hasbro hasn't changed much from the 80's or the 2000's this you only think this is "babyfication" is because of the cheaper plastic these days which isn't really something Hasbro can do much about and them introducing more gimmick lines which there were plenty of them back in the old days.BattleConvoy wrote: Is it any wonder why I get called a "baby" by my friends because of Hasbro's "Babyfication" of transformers.
Have I made my point clear Deadput?
Remember Pretenders? I mean I don't myself I wasn't born at that time
(Jesus I can't believe this post aggravated me to the point of making myself wake up in 4 in the morning to type this...that's how ridiculous I find your reasoning.) So basically yes I see your point but I don't agree with it in the slightest
Deadput wrote:Damn should I keep my preorder from bbts (I don't have to pay shipping right now since it's in my pile of loot.) Or try my luck at the retail game?
I did find velocitron here but I was lucky since there was only one and I haven't seen it since.
william-james88 wrote:Deadput wrote:Damn should I keep my preorder from bbts (I don't have to pay shipping right now since it's in my pile of loot.) Or try my luck at the retail game?
I did find velocitron here but I was lucky since there was only one and I haven't seen it since.
It comes out to the same price if you buy it full price in Canada so might as well keep your bbts preorder.
-Kanrabat- wrote:I say hunt in store, find it, pay it, then cancel the pre order. Only if you miss out completely on the Canadian release should you import it.
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I say hunt in store, find it, pay it, then cancel the pre order. Only if you miss out completely on the Canadian release should you import it.
Not that easy. BBTS is releasing this set any day now so if it gets released before he finds it in stores then he has to pay the BBTS price. And yeah, if ou get cuaght by customs you pay more than finding it in stores. However, if you dot get hit, its about the same price.
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I say hunt in store, find it, pay it, then cancel the pre order. Only if you miss out completely on the Canadian release should you import it.
Not that easy. BBTS is releasing this set any day now so if it gets released before he finds it in stores then he has to pay the BBTS price. And yeah, if ou get cuaght by customs you pay more than finding it in stores. However, if you dot get hit, its about the same price.
Unfortunately, any purchases over 50$ or something from BBTS is SURE to be hit by customs. That's why the only purchase I did from them is years is for some junk on clearance that was worth below 15$US.
Deadput wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I say hunt in store, find it, pay it, then cancel the pre order. Only if you miss out completely on the Canadian release should you import it.
Not that easy. BBTS is releasing this set any day now so if it gets released before he finds it in stores then he has to pay the BBTS price. And yeah, if ou get cuaght by customs you pay more than finding it in stores. However, if you dot get hit, its about the same price.
Unfortunately, any purchases over 50$ or something from BBTS is SURE to be hit by customs. That's why the only purchase I did from them is years is for some junk on clearance that was worth below 15$US.
I think in total it comes to $180 in total Canadian including shipping but I'm going to pay shipping much later so right now it's about $130.
I payed $200 to get Godbomber and Lio Convoy so really this isn't much for me.
william-james88 wrote:Dude, you gotta learn about those Japanese stores which buy directly from Takara. I too got those but they came out to about half that all together, no joke.
Deadput wrote:william-james88 wrote:Dude, you gotta learn about those Japanese stores which buy directly from Takara. I too got those but they came out to about half that all together, no joke.
Yeah I learned my lesson every other Takara product I have on preorder is from those stores don't worry but thanks for letting me know!
I just get exclusives from the place that sells them.
Since this is the Canadian Transformers thread is there anywhere I could get wave three Megatron and the wave 4 deluxes? I never saw Megatron in stores once and I passed over the wave 4 deluxes thinking I could pick them up later I do have Topspin though and I just bought Twintwist and they look great together!
william-james88 wrote:Neither of those have been spotted at retail recently. Sorry.
Deadput wrote:william-james88 wrote:Neither of those have been spotted at retail recently. Sorry.
Darn that probably means I'm going to have to go online hunting once this is all over.