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Optimus Prime vs. Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:03 am
by MercilessOne
I';ve been dying to know what you guys think.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:14 am
by Crashinibon
A hard fought battle, when all is said and done though, Prime, the one tue Prime takes the match.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:27 am
by Stormwolf
I think that this battle could go either way.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:07 am
by OptimusN1701
I would go with Prime, but Magnus would put up a great fight

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:46 am
by unique_username
id say magnus is on equal footing with prime, and neither have any significant physical advantage over the other. in the end id go with prime, a combination of skill (magnus is a great fighter, but optimus is optimus) and determination. prime has had the fate of the world on his shoulders enough to never let his resolve falter. magnus is gutsy, and all soldier, but when it comes to the point their both seriously damaged, i think magnus is more likely to accept that he cant win than prime is.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:35 am
by Outburst
Optimus easily. Even looking at tech specs Prime is vastly superior, and the "white prime" within is not the same as G1 Prime, just because they look the same does not mean they are anything alike. I hate DW for even introducing that.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:04 am
by AxiomScion
hmm.. this is kinda tuff to call

Magnus is the marry poppins of the autobot leaders...i.e. practically prime in every way and has niffty exo armour on top of all that.

Unless we are going with OP having (1)the matrix, and (2)the matrix actually giving him something "extra" that his credible combat clone doesn't have, I think Magnus has a pretty good chance.

G1 toon... OptiPrime has too much love; the story writters can't have anyone show him up... anyone. Though either one would barely be able to beat Grimlock, only one of them has proven to beat Rodimus. But can even OptiPrime beat Sixshot?

G1 UK comic... might lean toward UltraMag; he dogmaticly pursued and fought Galvatron, a mech that Prime has no hope of defeating in his standard frame. While he naturally lost (yet survived) a number of times gaining a fear of the spawn of unicron, he over came the fear and did what seemed impossible; he defeated Galvatron. It seems to me that the UK looks at Magnus as a credible substitue for Prime. he was Primes most practical choice to lead after him for a reason.

G1 DW comic... this seems to have a distinctive... Prime can only beat him if he is equiped with the matrix... feel to it. As the matrix does enhance him slightly in this continuity, and without it he has adverse effects on his system, a strict mech to mech match is hard to define. I don't think the ultra exo-armour can make up for a powerenhancing link to primus though.

G1 IDW comic... Prime isn't as unstoppable as he seems in other continuities, and doesn't seem to have matrix at present. Ultramagnus seems a credible match with his showing against Scorpinok. Given them actually knowing each other, I can see this going either way.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:48 pm
by Outburst
AxiomScion wrote:hmm.. this is kinda tuff to call

Magnus is the marry poppins of the autobot leaders...i.e. practically prime in every way and has niffty exo armour on top of all that.

Unless we are going with OP having (1)the matrix, and (2)the matrix actually giving him something "extra" that his credible combat clone doesn't have, I think Magnus has a pretty good chance.

G1 toon... OptiPrime has too much love; the story writters can't have anyone show him up... anyone. Though either one would barely be able to beat Grimlock, only one of them has proven to beat Rodimus. But can even OptiPrime beat Sixshot?

G1 UK comic... might lean toward UltraMag; he dogmaticly pursued and fought Galvatron, a mech that Prime has no hope of defeating in his standard frame. While he naturally lost (yet survived) a number of times gaining a fear of the spawn of unicron, he over came the fear and did what seemed impossible; he defeated Galvatron. It seems to me that the UK looks at Magnus as a credible substitue for Prime. he was Primes most practical choice to lead after him for a reason.

G1 DW comic... this seems to have a distinctive... Prime can only beat him if he is equiped with the matrix... feel to it. As the matrix does enhance him slightly in this continuity, and without it he has adverse effects on his system, a strict mech to mech match is hard to define. I don't think the ultra exo-armour can make up for a powerenhancing link to primus though.

G1 IDW comic... Prime isn't as unstoppable as he seems in other continuities, and doesn't seem to have matrix at present. Ultramagnus seems a credible match with his showing against Scorpinok. Given them actually knowing each other, I can see this going either way.


G1 toon: Prime was the only one to beat Rodimus, and took on the dinobots and even Grimlock realised Prime was stronger than he was.
Winner: Prime

G1 Uk Comic: Yes i agree closer, but it was never stated that Prime would ahve no chance against galvatron and the only time they faced was in Time wars were Prime was beating an insane galvatron, yes it was his powermaster form but there is nothing to suggest original prime would be much different. Remember Optimus is essentially the saviour of the autobots, frequently stated as the strongest and wisest and with eons of front line combat experience. Magnus is plagued by self doubt and 9 time out of 10 gets trashed by galvatron or even the terrorcons in Time wars.
Winner: Prime

DW: can't comment never read.

IDW: Can put up a decent fight against a highly overpowered Megatron while Magnus is given bounty hunter detail, after Swindle??? Prime also takes on Thunderwing...
Winner: Still Prime

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:26 pm
by Great Atlas
I'd go with Prime, for one he has the matrix

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:19 am
by Roddy P
Prime would win. Magnus is a suck up

Re: Optimus Prime vs. Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:19 am
by snavej
Tech specs say Prime wins. However Magnus is considerably bigger, being a whole car transporter while Prime is just a cab. 45 tonnes beats 10 tonnes. Powermaster Prime would dominate Magnus, though.

Of course, these two would never fight unless there was mind control or something like that going on.