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Well... Thunderwing would get his ass handed to him by The Last Autobot short and simple

IDWs Thunderwing? The Last Autobot is not a fighter, and if there are no other autobots around to play fight-dead-revive-fight! the Last Autobot will be... The Dead Autobot

The last Autobot was created to act in Primus' place and has some of Primus' power. I would venture to guess that this is enough to beat Thunderwing

If that mentioned power of Primus is to raise dead TFs then he's worse of that the Fallen with chaos energy. If we're useing VectorPrime's time Powers of Primus, since he is wholey based on the last autobot, they're still probably unusable in a mech to mech fight.

I think Thunderwing has a chance.

Matrixwars T-wing w/ matrix or even
IDW T-wing with skin grafts and ultra-energon FTW

The last Autobot was created among the 13 originals, whose to say he has any unmentioned power that the other 13 don't?

AxiomScion wrote:The last Autobot was created among the 13 originals, whose to say he has any unmentioned power that the other 13 don't?

I was under the impression that they all have a basic set of powers with a additional speciality. It could very well be possible that all originals share a number the same powers but some are more adept then others.

So potentially, I could see Liege Maximo bring dead to life, but he wouldn't be as good at it as the Last Autobot.

Just some speculation, we've barely scratched the surface with the originals.

The Last Autobot has this one. There is a reason why he wasn't ever attacked in the comics. They might not have shown it but it stands to reason that this guy packs some serious power.

Stormwolf wrote:

AxiomScion wrote:The last Autobot was created among the 13 originals, whose to say he has any unmentioned power that the other 13 don't?

I was under the impression that they all have a basic set of powers with a additional speciality. It could very well be possible that all originals share a number the same powers but some are more adept then others.

So potentially, I could see Liege Maximo bring dead to life, but he wouldn't be as good at it as the Last Autobot.

Just some speculation, we've barely scratched the surface with the originals.

Not quite what i ment to say there, but i can see were your comming from. Like the seekers each have a single identified ability the others do not share, but otherwise are wholey the same with personality making the most significant difference from there. The Last Autobot, being the 1st autobot and tossed in stassis before the fates of the other 13 were sealed, has the least experience, though could be the sunstorm of the group. The only 'power of primus' he's reported of having is returning sparks to there fallen frames. ie raise the dead. If this is the case his 'power of primus' is wholey useless in a one on one fight.

Now each the original 13 may be the size of Omegasupreme, might even move like Blurr, and have even more raw fire power than Metroplex; the LiegeMaximo easily displayed two of the three. Based on the art for the Last Autobot, he'ld be luck to have more weapons than his Unicron Trilogy counterpart VectorPrime.

we really don't know what the originals had in common other that being ... the original 13 created by Primus. With what we know of the Leige, the Fallen and the Last; I'ld be pressed to say the Last would be the easiest to beat in a one on one fight.

If non fan wanked sunstorm (ie not DW's electrom laced) had to fight any other seeker, without the aid of his reactor, i think he's going down. In a one on one fight the last auto has no one to raise and fight for him ie weakest of the 13 in a one on one fight.

Still, any idea what there basic set of powers would be? Not trying to call you out Stormwolf, you just seem to have the most Lore knowlegde so... i'ld like to hear anymore speculation you may have on them.

From what i gather, the Last Autobot is like the Transformer Jesus. He was made by Primus to take Primus' place should anything bad befall Primus.

TF Jesus > crazy TF on 'roids

OptimusN1701 wrote:From what i gather, the Last Autobot is like the Transformer Jesus. He was made by Primus to take Primus' place should anything bad befall Primus.

TF Jesus > crazy TF on 'roids

Yeah, nuff said.

I'm going to assume that T is in his original, non-super, pretender form. TLA defeats him but uses his Jesus powers to turn him into an Autobot.