The Energon Pub

The underworld is in an uproar at the turn of a new age. The gods have decreed that a new sheperd of mortal souls must be selected through combat. And so it has been decreed so shall it be done.



Verses

Discworld's Death through a hilareous number of events gets sucked into the battle and owns the lot with his awesomeness

Anubis = God

Reaper = Servant

Anubis all the way.

ah, but i go by the whole thing that Anubis is the ancient egyptian embodiement of death, whereas the grim reaper is the current embodiement of Death, therefore new guy trumps old guy.

Reaper wins this

Don't fear the Reaper. Even though he always wins.

Senor Hugo wrote:Anubis = God

Reaper = Servant

Anubis all the way.

Agreed.

Ok, I just read Milton, so paradise lost, IS fresh in my mind.

The lesser gods of hell, Hades, Anubis, Pluto, etc. were beneath Lucifer for all powerful ruler of Hell. Death (also know as the grim reaper) is Lucifer's son, making him numero Dos in hell.

Death wins.

I still say Anubis.

After all, if Death can be beat by these two...


What chance does he have against the God of the Underworld.

Also, Lucifer is incharge of Hell, Hell and the Underworld are two different places.

Anubis

AutobotGeneral wrote:Ok, I just read Milton, so paradise lost, IS fresh in my mind.

The lesser gods of hell, Hades, Anubis, Pluto, etc. were beneath Lucifer for all powerful ruler of Hell. Death (also know as the grim reaper) is Lucifer's son, making him numero Dos in hell.

Death wins.

Well that is just nonsensical babble, Christians, the people that believe in Lucifer and monotheism automatically don't believe in old gods from polytheistic religions.

To a Christian it is like saying who is smarter an actual detective or Sherlock Holmes, a fictional character.

Also in Christian belief, Satan is higher up than Lucifer, yes, they are two different entities all together.

What? Sherlock Holmes wasn't a real person????
*gasp* *shock* *horror*

Greed wrote:

AutobotGeneral wrote:Ok, I just read Milton, so paradise lost, IS fresh in my mind.

The lesser gods of hell, Hades, Anubis, Pluto, etc. were beneath Lucifer for all powerful ruler of Hell. Death (also know as the grim reaper) is Lucifer's son, making him numero Dos in hell.

Death wins.

Well that is just nonsensical babble, Christians, the people that believe in Lucifer and monotheism automatically don't believe in old gods from polytheistic religions.

To a Christian it is like saying who is smarter an actual detective or Sherlock Holmes, a fictional character.

Also in Christian belief, Satan is higher up than Lucifer, yes, they are two different entities all together.

There are so many things wrong with what you just said I oughta smack you right over the internet! You get Negative 200000 internets, and your speaking privileges are hereby revoked.

Milton (author of Paradise lost) was a Christian. If you had read paradise lost you would know about what I am talking about when I wrote that. And your example is pure crap as well! Sherlock Holmes is of course smarter than any 'real' detective due to the fact that he is a fictional character! People have arguments like this all the time. You can't invalidate a argument just because it is a 'real character vs. fictional character' debate!

And Satan and Lucifer are NOT two separate entities! You dumb F***!
The Following Names are Synonymous
Satan, Beelzebub, Lucifer, the Devil

im going to throw this in here

a god looses power if belief in it starts decreasing.

no matter how many people stop believing in the grim reaper, he will still get you.

Anubis. Why?, just read about history.

tequila stu wrote:im going to throw this in here

a god looses power if belief in it starts decreasing.

no matter how many people stop believing in the grim reaper, he will still get you.

Kinda what he said, Death claims us all, gods do not.

AutobotGeneral wrote:And Satan and Lucifer are NOT two separate entities! You dumb F***!
The Following Names are Synonymous
Satan, Beelzebub, Lucifer, the Devil

Well... that gets kind of shaky... see, there have been multiple antagonists in judeochristian mythology, that many tend to just lump together now because evil=evil, even though there were distinctions between the entities...

I mean, you've got Lucifer, the "Light Bearer" greatest of all the angels, who became full of himself and tried to usurp God. Started a war, got kicked out by Michael. Very reminiscent of themes in Classical mythology actually...

Then you've got Satan, "the Accuser", who was, by all appearances, an angel in God's good graces, who played the 'devil's advocate' in civilized conversations with God, and was given the task of trying the faith of God's children - hence the story of Job.

Beelzebub, "Lord of the Flies", has some wierd history I can't remember anymore, that I think involves changing meanings of Hebrew words or something.

And there was the Serpent, a creepy dude that hung out in the trees and chatted up the ladies, until God took away his legs and cursed his kind to bite and be stepped upon by humans for the rest of eternity. But then, pretty much everything in Genesis is borrowed from Sumerian Mythology, so continuity kind of goes out the window.

And finally "The Devil", a vague, relatively modern term, that is about as elucidating as "That Evil Guy".

So really, they aren't synonymous. If someone was going to suggest that they were, then they'd almost have to say that either the pagan underworld gods (Hades, Pluto, Hel, Anubis, Set...) or the evil gods (not as many of those, Sokar? Loki?) are also synonymous, because really you are boiling it down to an archetype - a symbolic being that represents darkness, death, destruction, chaos, and evil - a projection of our own Thanatos drive.

Oh, and I'd say the Bible trumps Paradise Lost as an authoritative work on Judeo-Christian religion, and in the Bible, Death is one of God's angels, not the son of Satan.


Incidentally, I voted for Anubis, because ultimately, I figure the decison of who gets the job will have to come down to a matter of aesthetics. Both of these guys have good resumes, though Anubis has more managerial experience, so it'll pretty much come down to the interview. Look at their clothes, Anubis clearly knows how to dress to impress, and clearly knows how to carry himself. Death just skulks in, drops his farm implement on the floor and gives his potential employers an empty stare for an hour. Death isn't going to et a call-back.

I was under the impression that Satan was a rank amongst angels until Hi-Satan, along with Lucifer, were cast out of heaven.

Either way, they aren't the same guy.

Also good call on the interview but Anubis and his Jackal head might turn some possible employers away but then again Grim is bones and a rag...

Greed wrote:I was under the impression that Satan was a rank amongst angels until Hi-Satan, along with Lucifer, were cast out of heaven.

Either way, they aren't the same guy.

Also good call on the interview but Anubis and his Jackal head might turn some possible employers away but then again Grim is bones and a rag...

yeah, so he holds one of his femurs in a suggestive manner to distract the dog, then implants his scythe into Anubis' head.

The grim reaper, Anyone who can put up with Billy is #1

ebilly99 wrote:The grim reaper, Anyone who can put up with Billy is #1

Like someone said Grim was bested by Bill and Ted

Greed wrote:

ebilly99 wrote:The grim reaper, Anyone who can put up with Billy is #1

Like someone said Grim was bested by Bill and Ted

You are fogetting their level of excellence.

Grim Reaper will still win thorugh the medium of a vet apponiment and a castration-strength rubber band...

Meh, I'll admit when I'm wrong. So I'll say I was KINDA wrong since you yourself admitted it was a shaky area.

Anubis has to wait for you to die. Death comes to claim you. And hey, Death has been played by Brad Pitt, that has to say something for his character. Maybe we can get Air Bud to play Anubis...

AutobotGeneral wrote:Meh, I'll admit when I'm wrong. So I'll say I was KINDA wrong since you yourself admitted it was a shaky area.

Anubis has to wait for you to die. Death comes to claim you. And hey, Death has been played by Brad Pitt, that has to say something for his character. Maybe we can get Air Bud to play Anubis...

Don't forget that death also has an awesome chopper and a horse named Binky

Same character, different outfit.