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Eva-01 vs. Optimus Prime

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:27 pm
by Tenkyoen [AKA: WheelBar!]
My friend and I have been having quite the discussion on this and we would like to know what you think!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:09 pm
by Deadpool.
Optimus.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:11 pm
by Starscream
I think Omega Supreme vs. eva 01 would be a better match up optimus is considerably smaller than eva 01

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:17 pm
by Tenkyoen [AKA: WheelBar!]
Starscream wrote:I think Omega Supreme vs. eva 01 would be a better match up optimus is considerably smaller than eva 01


Well, I wasn't sure on a Eva's height, and my friend didn't know either... ^_^;

But what I did wonder was if the Matrix could possibly destroy an Eva. Size usually doesn't matter in this concept, because as we all know Rodimus used the Matriz to destroy Unicorn (mostly) and there was a HUGE size diff there.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:20 pm
by Necessary Evil
Evas as in Evangelion units?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:21 pm
by Deadpool.
ZeroZero wrote:Evas as in Evangelion units?
I think that's what he meant.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:25 pm
by Necessary Evil
Deadpool. wrote:
ZeroZero wrote:Evas as in Evangelion units?
I think that's what she meant.

OP could whoop eva 01.

And Omega Supreme would...well... Just toss it aside.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:26 pm
by Deadpool.
ZeroZero wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
ZeroZero wrote:Evas as in Evangelion units?
I think that's what she meant.

OP could whoop eva 01.

And Omega Supreme would...well... Just toss it aside.
And DP would rip it to shreds. 8)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:28 pm
by Necessary Evil
Deadpool. wrote:
ZeroZero wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
ZeroZero wrote:Evas as in Evangelion units?
I think that's what she meant.

OP could whoop eva 01.

And Omega Supreme would...well... Just toss it aside.
And DP would rip it to shreds. 8)

This isn't a toy battle, DP! :P

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:32 pm
by Deadpool.
ZeroZero wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
ZeroZero wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
ZeroZero wrote:Evas as in Evangelion units?
I think that's what she meant.

OP could whoop eva 01.

And Omega Supreme would...well... Just toss it aside.
And DP would rip it to shreds. 8)

This isn't a toy battle, DP! :P
This isn't? :shock:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:22 pm
by Evank_Horizon
:)) *Laughing very hard at poeple who say OP has any chance at all*

first the matrix work only in certain times and only against evil. EVA-01 isn't evil (no matter how violent it can become).
Second, do you people know what the AT Field is? Do you know what kind of power you need to pierce it? Op may be powerful but he's just not that powerful.
Third, EVA's height varies from about 25 to 50 meters tall. Even PM prime isn't that tall.
Fourth, EVA-01 can regenerate and become an unpredictable and savage beast when the life of the pilot is threatened.

I wonder how many of you who said OP would win this have actually seen the whole series...

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:14 pm
by DesalationReborn
I'm just wondering one thing: How strong is the power chord on an Eva?

I never really understood the concept on that.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:19 am
by Devastron
Eva-01 would tear Prime apart. I don't think Prime could even hurt it since he doesn't seem to have the firepower to break through the AT field.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:30 am
by Grahf
I've got to chime in on this one. Prime would get pwned, ripped apart, and buried. Once Unit one ingested the S2 engine, look what it was capable of. Even when it had to use the umbilical cord, Look how much destruction it could accomplish. Even without a weapon it would still win.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:51 am
by sto_vo_kor_2000
Tenkyoen [AKA: WheelBar!] wrote:
Starscream wrote:I think Omega Supreme vs. eva 01 would be a better match up optimus is considerably smaller than eva 01


Well, I wasn't sure on a Eva's height, and my friend didn't know either... ^_^;

But what I did wonder was if the Matrix could possibly destroy an Eva. Size usually doesn't matter in this concept, because as we all know Rodimus used the Matriz to destroy Unicorn (mostly) and there was a HUGE size diff there.


That may be the case but the Matrix isint just some weapon that can be pulled out when ever you want to use it.It only works when the universe itself is in danger.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:46 am
by Terminator-96010
Eva has AT Field that it can block any damage at all. exception for the angels on the series and the movie. and if you saw EVA-01 berserk, it would eat any optimus prime mode or whatever. don't forget EVA-01 is alive it can regenerate anytime.

for anyone who saw the END of Evangelion the EVA-01 became big more than a planet. It turn itself into a true angel because Rei Ayanami is EVA.

It's more fast than normal or small robot size doesn't count.

EVA-01 Berserk:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocmzDO-vBR8

EVA-01 Became big:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI50Wv0HhUY


and to think every cartoon series of optimus or transformers never get hit each other meaning low accuracy. They have only one super weapon only the matrix. But the matrix itself only fights for evil.





EVA-01 wins


I salute for Optimus :grin:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:56 am
by Terminator-96010
the fake trailer of Neon genesis evangelion live action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2RtRgic ... re=related

The news of the movie

http://eva.trivialbeing.net/

can't wait for the movie

:-P

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:25 am
by Inferno Prime
Eva has AT Field that it can block any damage at all. exception for the angels on the series and the movie. and if you saw EVA-01 berserk, it would eat any optimus prime mode or whatever. don't forget EVA-01 is alive it can regenerate anytime.


The energy of heavily depopulated Japan was enough to go straight through one. Both Energon and Cybertron Prime can exceed that energy level easily.

Eva's arn't the be all end all. There's a large number of anime mechs that could drop it with ease.

That said G1 prime looses horribly.

Eva

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:10 pm
by Predacon Rampage
Optimus can't win in that type of situation, but you can not be sure since we don't know the effects of an alien laser on a AT-field. When the gamecube angel attacked (which had the most powerful of AT-fields) it was beaten by that laser sniper rifile. Considering Eva-01 has a weaker AT-field, requires a pilot, 2-5 min powertime, and seemes to lose its AT-field in beserk mode, Optimus would have to approach it very carefully. The power of Optimus's gun might be in his favor. :-?

Megatron's fusion cannon, hooked up to energon might be able to take down a Eva through.

Of mecha that would own Eva-01, Mazinkaiser would kill him. :-P

Don't get me wrong I love Eva-01, my favorite is Eva-03. :grin:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:41 pm
by DesalationReborn
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Tenkyoen [AKA: WheelBar!] wrote:
Starscream wrote:I think Omega Supreme vs. eva 01 would be a better match up optimus is considerably smaller than eva 01


Well, I wasn't sure on a Eva's height, and my friend didn't know either... ^_^;

But what I did wonder was if the Matrix could possibly destroy an Eva. Size usually doesn't matter in this concept, because as we all know Rodimus used the Matriz to destroy Unicorn (mostly) and there was a HUGE size diff there.


That may be the case but the Matrix isint just some weapon that can be pulled out when ever you want to use it.It only works when the universe itself is in danger.


I'm not so sure. It seems to be the deus ex machina for just about any big problem the Autobot's have. So as long as Prime can be like, "Ugh... Look! He just stepped on a puppy-- go Matrix!" he'd be golden.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:13 pm
by sto_vo_kor_2000
DesalationReborn wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Tenkyoen [AKA: WheelBar!] wrote:
Starscream wrote:I think Omega Supreme vs. eva 01 would be a better match up optimus is considerably smaller than eva 01


Well, I wasn't sure on a Eva's height, and my friend didn't know either... ^_^;

But what I did wonder was if the Matrix could possibly destroy an Eva. Size usually doesn't matter in this concept, because as we all know Rodimus used the Matriz to destroy Unicorn (mostly) and there was a HUGE size diff there.


That may be the case but the Matrix isint just some weapon that can be pulled out when ever you want to use it.It only works when the universe itself is in danger.


I'm not so sure. It seems to be the deus ex machina for just about any big problem the Autobot's have. So as long as Prime can be like, "Ugh... Look! He just stepped on a puppy-- go Matrix!" he'd be golden.


I havent seen any exsamples of Prime just wipping it out when ever he was out matched but I wasnt a fan of the last 3 shows so I really cant say much about those.

But as for G1, both the comic and the toon, the Matrix was only useable durring battle with a universal threat.The Eva's dont pose such a threat.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:29 pm
by Stormwolf
Evank_Horizon wrote:first the matrix work only in certain times and only against evil.


Thunderwing and Starscream could use it against anyone.

Evank_Horizon wrote:Second, do you people know what the AT Field is?


Assuming that the emo pilot knows how to operate it...

Anywho, it can still be pierced with sufficient force.

Evank_Horizon wrote:Do you know what kind of power you need to pierce it? Op may be powerful but he's just not that powerful.


Well, the Evas have managed to pierce through AT fields with those knives and that big machine gun. I think that Optimus could muster more power than that.

Evank_Horizon wrote:Third, EVA's height varies from about 25 to 50 meters tall. Even PM prime isn't that tall.


I'll give you that one. But size doesn't seem to matter to the guy that took down Unicron, souped up Thunderwing and Devastator.

Evank_Horizon wrote:Fourth, EVA-01 can regenerate and become an unpredictable and savage beast when the life of the pilot is threatened.


That's going to be a disadvantage against the sharp mind of Peter Cullen......erm....Optimus Prime.

Evank_Horizon wrote:I wonder how many of you who said OP would win this have actually seen the whole series...


I have, and I got what was happening at the ending. Shinji would have done better to go with the alternate timeline instead of pushing the resetbutton.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:39 pm
by DesalationReborn
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
DesalationReborn wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Tenkyoen [AKA: WheelBar!] wrote:
Starscream wrote:I think Omega Supreme vs. eva 01 would be a better match up optimus is considerably smaller than eva 01


Well, I wasn't sure on a Eva's height, and my friend didn't know either... ^_^;

But what I did wonder was if the Matrix could possibly destroy an Eva. Size usually doesn't matter in this concept, because as we all know Rodimus used the Matriz to destroy Unicorn (mostly) and there was a HUGE size diff there.


That may be the case but the Matrix isint just some weapon that can be pulled out when ever you want to use it.It only works when the universe itself is in danger.


I'm not so sure. It seems to be the deus ex machina for just about any big problem the Autobot's have. So as long as Prime can be like, "Ugh... Look! He just stepped on a puppy-- go Matrix!" he'd be golden.


I havent seen any exsamples of Prime just wipping it out when ever he was out matched but I wasnt a fan of the last 3 shows so I really cant say much about those.

But as for G1, both the comic and the toon, the Matrix was only useable durring battle with a universal threat.The Eva's dont pose such a threat.


Well the hate spores at the time weren't bothering anyone but earth, so I don't know why they got hozed. All he has to do is convince the Matrix that the Eva's going to kill the universe... eventually. You do realize this is all my jesting, right?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:42 pm
by Liege Evilmus
Prime, he'd just shoot out the power cable and stay back till his battery dies out.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:46 pm
by Liege Evilmus
Terminator-96010 wrote:Eva has AT Field that it can block any damage at all. exception for the angels on the series and the movie. and if you saw EVA-01 berserk, it would eat any optimus prime mode or whatever. don't forget EVA-01 is alive it can regenerate anytime.

for anyone who saw the END of Evangelion the EVA-01 became big more than a planet. It turn itself into a true angel because Rei Ayanami is EVA.

It's more fast than normal or small robot size doesn't count.

EVA-01 Berserk:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocmzDO-vBR8

EVA-01 Became big:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI50Wv0HhUY


and to think every cartoon series of optimus or transformers never get hit each other meaning low accuracy. They have only one super weapon only the matrix. But the matrix itself only fights for evil.





EVA-01 wins


I salute for Optimus :grin:


I have the series, and only saw one of the movies and WAS looking forward to the rest. Spoiler Clown Bastard!

:P