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Nuffs wrote:Didn't that already happen in South Park?

Evank_Horizon wrote::shock:

Gee. (not to say jesus of course) I didn't realise the rest of the world was so stuck up. This is just for fun.

Dead Metal wrote:

Evank_Horizon wrote::shock:

Gee. (not to say jesus of course) I didn't realise the rest of the world was so stuck up. This is just for fun.

Personaly I don't care about religon, but I can remember posting similar stuff in the philosophy forum, then it was shut down.

Dead Metal wrote:

Evank_Horizon wrote::shock:

Gee. (not to say jesus of course) I didn't realise the rest of the world was so stuck up. This is just for fun.

Personaly I don't care about religon, but I can remember posting similar stuff in the philosophy forum, then it was shut down.

Evank_Horizon wrote:Yeah Santa has got weight, speed, strenght and immortality. No wonder we barely hear about Jesus anymore in this holiday that bare his name. Or used to since so many people like to call it x-mas.

Wikipedia wrote:Yule celebrations at the winter solstice predate the conversion to Christianity. It was, in pre-conversion times, the name of a feast celebrated by sacrifice on mid-winter night of January 12th according to the Norwegian historian Olav Bø. [3] Though there are numerous references to Yule in the Icelandic sagas, there are few accounts of how Yule was actually celebrated, beyond the fact that it was a time for feasting. According to Adam of Bremen, the Swedish kings sacrificed male slaves every ninth year during the Yule sacrifices at the Temple at Uppsala. 'Yule-Joy', with dancing, continued through the Middle Ages in Iceland, but was frowned upon when the Reformation arrived. The custom of ritually slaughtering a boar on Yule survives in the modern tradition of the Christmas ham and the Boar's Head Carol.

"On Yule Eve, the best boar in the herd was brought into the hall where the assembled company laid their hands upon the animal and made their unbreakable oaths. Heard by the boar, these oaths were thought to go straight to the ears of Freyr himself.Once the oaths had been sworn, the boar was sacrificed in the name of Freyr and the feast of boar flesh began. The most commonly recognized remnants of the sacred boar traditions once common at Yule has to be the serving of the boar's head at later Christmas feasts".[4]

The confraternities of artisans of the 9th century, which developed into the medieval guilds, were denounced by Catholic clergy for their "conjurations" when they swore to support one another in coming adversity and in business ventures. The occasions were annual banquets on December 26,

"feast day of the pagan god Jul, when it was possible to couple with the spirits of the dead and with demons that returned to the surface of the earth... Many clerics denounced these conjurations as being not only a threat to public order but also, more serious in their eyes, satanic and immoral. Hincmar, in 858, sought in vain to Christianize them" (Rouche 1987, p. 432).

Senor Hugo wrote:

Evank_Horizon wrote:Yeah Santa has got weight, speed, strenght and immortality. No wonder we barely hear about Jesus anymore in this holiday that bare his name. Or used to since so many people like to call it x-mas.

And now it's time for the history lesson. Christmas has always been around, long before Jesus, and Santa. It was originally called Yule. "Yule-Log" "Yule-Tide" etc come from this.

Wikipedia wrote:Yule celebrations at the winter solstice predate the conversion to Christianity. It was, in pre-conversion times, the name of a feast celebrated by sacrifice on mid-winter night of January 12th according to the Norwegian historian Olav Bø. [3] Though there are numerous references to Yule in the Icelandic sagas, there are few accounts of how Yule was actually celebrated, beyond the fact that it was a time for feasting. According to Adam of Bremen, the Swedish kings sacrificed male slaves every ninth year during the Yule sacrifices at the Temple at Uppsala. 'Yule-Joy', with dancing, continued through the Middle Ages in Iceland, but was frowned upon when the Reformation arrived. The custom of ritually slaughtering a boar on Yule survives in the modern tradition of the Christmas ham and the Boar's Head Carol.

"On Yule Eve, the best boar in the herd was brought into the hall where the assembled company laid their hands upon the animal and made their unbreakable oaths. Heard by the boar, these oaths were thought to go straight to the ears of Freyr himself.Once the oaths had been sworn, the boar was sacrificed in the name of Freyr and the feast of boar flesh began. The most commonly recognized remnants of the sacred boar traditions once common at Yule has to be the serving of the boar's head at later Christmas feasts".[4]

The confraternities of artisans of the 9th century, which developed into the medieval guilds, were denounced by Catholic clergy for their "conjurations" when they swore to support one another in coming adversity and in business ventures. The occasions were annual banquets on December 26,

"feast day of the pagan god Jul, when it was possible to couple with the spirits of the dead and with demons that returned to the surface of the earth... Many clerics denounced these conjurations as being not only a threat to public order but also, more serious in their eyes, satanic and immoral. Hincmar, in 858, sought in vain to Christianize them" (Rouche 1987, p. 432).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule

Then with Santa, Coca Cola took St. Nicholas, turned him into a jolly fat-guy dressed in red. Thus we get Santa Claus of today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

Yay for learning!

Evank_Horizon wrote:

Senor Hugo wrote:

Evank_Horizon wrote:Yeah Santa has got weight, speed, strenght and immortality. No wonder we barely hear about Jesus anymore in this holiday that bare his name. Or used to since so many people like to call it x-mas.

And now it's time for the history lesson. Christmas has always been around, long before Jesus, and Santa. It was originally called Yule. "Yule-Log" "Yule-Tide" etc come from this.

Wikipedia wrote:Yule celebrations at the winter solstice predate the conversion to Christianity. It was, in pre-conversion times, the name of a feast celebrated by sacrifice on mid-winter night of January 12th according to the Norwegian historian Olav Bø. [3] Though there are numerous references to Yule in the Icelandic sagas, there are few accounts of how Yule was actually celebrated, beyond the fact that it was a time for feasting. According to Adam of Bremen, the Swedish kings sacrificed male slaves every ninth year during the Yule sacrifices at the Temple at Uppsala. 'Yule-Joy', with dancing, continued through the Middle Ages in Iceland, but was frowned upon when the Reformation arrived. The custom of ritually slaughtering a boar on Yule survives in the modern tradition of the Christmas ham and the Boar's Head Carol.

"On Yule Eve, the best boar in the herd was brought into the hall where the assembled company laid their hands upon the animal and made their unbreakable oaths. Heard by the boar, these oaths were thought to go straight to the ears of Freyr himself.Once the oaths had been sworn, the boar was sacrificed in the name of Freyr and the feast of boar flesh began. The most commonly recognized remnants of the sacred boar traditions once common at Yule has to be the serving of the boar's head at later Christmas feasts".[4]

The confraternities of artisans of the 9th century, which developed into the medieval guilds, were denounced by Catholic clergy for their "conjurations" when they swore to support one another in coming adversity and in business ventures. The occasions were annual banquets on December 26,

"feast day of the pagan god Jul, when it was possible to couple with the spirits of the dead and with demons that returned to the surface of the earth... Many clerics denounced these conjurations as being not only a threat to public order but also, more serious in their eyes, satanic and immoral. Hincmar, in 858, sought in vain to Christianize them" (Rouche 1987, p. 432).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule

Then with Santa, Coca Cola took St. Nicholas, turned him into a jolly fat-guy dressed in red. Thus we get Santa Claus of today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

Yay for learning!

Yeah I know about St-Nicolas but you must agree that today's Santa Claus has nothing to do with what St. Nicolas was. St. Nicolas was just an old man with a cane wandering and giving toys to kids. No reindear-powered lightspeed flying sled, no eternal life, no north-pole super toy factory... not even his physical apearance was the same.

And how about sacrifying a male slave or a bore on boxing day or new year's eve? It might be fun!

Dragonslayer wrote:

Nuffs wrote:Didn't that already happen in South Park?

No, but there was the episode where Santa was shot down over Iraq and Stan, Kyle, and Cartman asked Jesus to help them rescue him