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Who would win between Vegeta Prince of Saiyans, and our friend, The Decepticon Air Commander? Vegeta can go up to SS4, but cannot fuse with anyone, and can't call for help. Starscream can use any weapons, transform, but can't call for his pals Skywarp and Thundercracker for help.

Is this a joke? Starscream can't win this. Vegeta's power, technique, defense and speed are exponentialy superior to screamer.

Maybe if vegeta was still a fetus it may be a fair fight maybe... but vegeta would still win

Vegeta KOs SS in .1 seconds

Predaprince wrote:Vegeta KOs SS in .1 seconds

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Gigastorm wrote:

Predaprince wrote:Vegeta KOs SS in .1 seconds

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Maybe but he wouldn't realise before 0.001 seconds later

Ok this is how the battle goes.... vegeta beats starcream with 1 hit... then goku flies in and starts fighting vegeta they both go ssj4 and whoop up on each other till they are too tired to move

Starscream can only win if he has the Underbase or the Matrix.

Stormwolf wrote:Starscream can only win if he has the Underbase or the Matrix.

yep thats the only way but even then it would be really close

Let's see, the guy who made a living clearing planets of all their lifeforms, or the guy who would repeatedly fail to off his leader, depsite the leader being critically injured before each attempt?

Vegeta wins so hard Starscream is erased from existence.

Starscream sucks balls anyway.

Vegeta wins this without even trying.

vegeta would either fly through starscream before the image of vegeta is actually processed by starscream, or hed taunt him a bit, completely show him up in speed by flying along with starscream or simply appearing in front of him every few seconds as starscream tries to maneuver away. then a galic gun shot would obliterate starscream from the hips up.

Poor, Starscream!


Vegeta (Myself) for win.

As everyone has already said, Vegeta wins this one quite easily.

His strength is ridiculously higher than Screamer's even with tapping into the Super Saiyan level.

So, yeah... Vegeta hands down.

It'd be interesting to see how the likes of Raditz and Nappa would go against the Seeker. They weren't as powerful as the main characters in DBZ, but they would still be pretty tough to beat...

I doubt the seekers' missiles can efficiently target humanoids like the saiyans.

Take away Vegeta's speed and blasts and make him only super sayain 1 this is could be a fight.

Then again Starscreams null rays are useless and as said earlier. I also may be overestimating Starscream's strength. I'd put Vegeta's SS 1 strength at a few hundred tons.

Considering Goku reached SS1 and beat Freezer who was powerful enough to destroy a planet by himself, I think even SS1 Vegeta would be too much for Star Scream. To give starscream a slight chance it would have to be during "Vegeta Saga"

But that's considering StarScream's armor would be much tougher than any alloy known to mankind.

Evank_Horizon wrote:But that's considering StarScream's armor would be much tougher than any alloy known to mankind.

And that's considering that Frieza and/or the Saiyans hadn't invented something just as powerful. Remember, the Decepticons weren't allowed much time or resources to put into R&D, since they were dedicated to the War full-time, and since whenever either side started a new weapon or whatever, it'd only be a matter of time before the other side took it down.

As opposed to Frieza, (who, even if he WAS opposed, the rebels didn't last long) had time and resources to waste on not only R&D, but also "Real Estate," and good ol' fashion pillaging.

It would really go down like this...

Vegeta coughs and Starscream explodes.

Vegeta can blow up a planet.

StarScream can beg for mercy at the slightest hint of trouble.

Vegeta! Even if StarScream could call for SkyWarp and ThunderCracker, they'd probly only help whoop him anyway.

However Z fighters aren't very strong against non Ki attacks. Super 17's machine gun could do a number on super sayain 2's, a metal pole pierced SS4 Goku's leg. 16 was confident a nuclear bomb could kill cell or Goku. Lava could hurt super sayain Goku.


However Starscreams missiles are too slow and null rays won't work on Vegeta. Cybertron starscream at full power could do this.

Inferno Prime wrote:However Z fighters aren't very strong against non Ki attacks. Super 17's machine gun could do a number on super sayain 2's, a metal pole pierced SS4 Goku's leg. 16 was confident a nuclear bomb could kill cell or Goku. Lava could hurt super sayain Goku.

Huh? Since when? Cell shrugged off an gigantic barrage from the military like it was nothing.

Shadowman wrote:

Inferno Prime wrote:However Z fighters aren't very strong against non Ki attacks. Super 17's machine gun could do a number on super sayain 2's, a metal pole pierced SS4 Goku's leg. 16 was confident a nuclear bomb could kill cell or Goku. Lava could hurt super sayain Goku.

Huh? Since when? Cell shrugged off an gigantic barrage from the military like it was nothing.

This was in GT, which wasn't really Dragonball, as Akira Toriyama was only an art consultant for the show. And GT is widely considered to be extremely crappy and terrible.

They, in GT, since everyone was so ridiculously overpowered by the start of the show, had to do something to give them a challenge. Which is why even though they're so uber powered, they could be hit with a pole or shot, and their ki attacks couldn't destroy crap. Because if they actually continued from Z correctly, one kamehameha would clobber any threat and probably destroy the planet a couple times.

It's a tie. Vegeta powers up and utterly wastes Starscream, and then Starscream whines about it until Vegetas brain liquifies and bleeds out of his ears. So I suppose in the end Starscream wins since he can be put back together thanks to the shakey and inconsistent life-death cycle of transformers. Then again, they COULD wish him back, but i think there's a limit to how much they can do that.