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Posted: **Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:02 pm**

Let's say this is during KOTOR I Era Star Wars.

All Final Fantasy worlds from each game appear suddenly in the Star Wars Galaxy. They come with all their heroes and villains.

How much is the fate of Star Wars changed by all these new heroes and villains working together to conquer everything.

Posted: **Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:20 pm**

Uhm...probably not that much, seeing as none of the FF worlds have anything resembling interstellar flight. Nor do any of them speak the same language.

The cast of X all die first, though.

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:23 am**

ugh... i hate star wars. i'm going for final fantasy

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:20 am**

Revan single handedly puts everyone from Final Fantasy in their place.

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:02 am**

AfterImage wrote:The cast of X all die first, though.

i agree with this guy

but, i also say that FF7 crew will be the most successful followed by 8,6,3,then 9

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:15 pm**

Senor Hugo wrote:Revan single handedly puts everyone from Final Fantasy in their place.

Revan gets raped easily by planetbusting Kuja.

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:18 pm**

Nuffs wrote:
Senor Hugo wrote:Revan single handedly puts everyone from Final Fantasy in their place.

Revan gets raped easily by planetbusting Kuja.

who then gets raped by Zidane and crew

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:22 pm**

NeoExdeath will eat the Universe then kill himself, so nobody wins.

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:07 pm**

Gigastorm wrote:who then gets raped by Zidane and crew

Tekka wrote:NeoExdeath will eat the Universe then kill himself, so nobody wins.

If you call getting their pasty asses handed to them by Ultima raped then yes

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:51 pm**

Hm, well it would depend. Thinking about it again, Revan may not be able to take them all solo, but he and his crew may have a pretty good shot.

Revan, Bastilla, Jolee Bindo, and Juhani, with all their respective skills, plus Bastillas Battle Mediation, not to mention the nice skills like Stasis field, Force Storm, Death Field. Not to mention Lightsabers > FF Weapons.

It'd be a good fight, but yeah, the Jedi = Win, this isn't even considering the rest of the republic forces, which could bomb from orbit, etc.

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:09 pm**

CLOUD WOULD KILL EVERYONE
because he is just that awesome

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:52 pm**

KOTOR era, that means Star Forge huh?
I think with an endless droid army, with of course the interstellar flight, and the fact that they're jedi and most citizens carry awesome blasters. I'm goin' for the Star Wars.

Posted: **Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:22 pm**

My favorite video game series of all time, and my first childhood addiction. Well i think i'm gonna go with Star Wars on this one. Sorry Cloud. :-(

Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:48 am**

well... final fantasy does have one thing star wars doesnt...

MUSCLES

Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:54 am**

Gigastorm wrote:well... final fantasy does have one thing star wars doesnt...

MUSCLES

And yet, muscles mean nothing in the face of the force, or lightsabers.

Sure you can swing the big heavy sword. But the sword will be flayed in two against a lightsaber.

Force + Lightsaber = Win.

Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:45 pm**

Senor Hugo wrote:
Gigastorm wrote:well... final fantasy does have one thing star wars doesnt...

MUSCLES

And yet, muscles mean nothing in the face of the force, or lightsabers.

Sure you can swing the big heavy sword. But the sword will be flayed in two against a lightsaber.

Force + Lightsaber = Win.

While I think there would need to be a lot of conditions for the FF teams to stand a chance, they should be capable of putting up a nice fight at least on a planet or two. As the invading forces, it would make the most since for them all to be place on a planet with limited defenses/resources, perhaps one broken light saber, two or more stellar vessels, and enough scraps for the council of Cids to work with. If the FF forces had a planet with limited resources as there territory, before imperial forces destroy said planet, they might be able to do something.

Also with existing material that can deflect a light saber, and since most FF cast obtain at least one magical weapon, I'm thinking a light saber doesn't flay all weapons. At least not magical ones or those treated with 'cortz'? I'll never remember the name of that red stuff, but if a non force user can fight a force user, I'm thinking the gap should be much closer with a magic user.

How hard is it to get/ make a light saber? I thought the crystal for the laser was the hardest part. Surely the Cids could figure out the tech and send the heros on a grand adventure to acquire needed parts, leveling up in the SW world while doing so.

How does force abilities match up to FF magic and espers? All the FF bosses are insane magic users, so could even one of them learn to use the force?

Moogles and Chocobos could possibly infiltrate a few neighboring planets breeding an army of chocobo knights, or just chocobos... but they have a mysticism similar to yoda about them. I'ld like to see Mog try to reason with the green muppet and his other moogles trying to fight, forcing the two would be friends into mortal enemies. The exchange ends with Mog being the last of his kind, like Yoda, and now force sensitive. Mog trains the more spiritual FF members...

I could go on but the FF forces would still fall short, in my mind, as they lack the tools to fuel a true campaign.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:43 am**

Armorock wrote:KOTOR era, that means Star Forge huh?
I think with an endless droid army, with of course the interstellar flight, and the fact that they're jedi and most citizens carry awesome blasters. I'm goin' for the Star Wars.

Also ships and weapons. Can't go wrong there.

Gigastorm wrote:CLOUD WOULD KILL EVERYONE
because he is just that awesome

No...just, no.

Considering that KotOR had some of the most powerful Jedi ever (Revan used the Force to completely change an entire species native language.), this one goes to Star Wars, albeit with a few casualties.

Posted: **Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:17 pm**

While the six star wars movies were abosolutely subline from start to finish (except epsidoe 1, which was mediocre in my book) Final fantasy has a very wonky rate of good plot. Sometimes the main character is too angsty (cloud), too mary sue (Zidane), or just too friggin girly (Tidus)

That's another thing I have against FF, the increasing amount of men dressing like women and the level of angsty characters with a troubled past is just plain unnerving for me. That and the fact that with each game it's just getting more and more cyber punk. FF should be set in a steam punk world at the latest like in FF9 or a total medivil world like in FF4.

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:18 am**

AxiomScion wrote: While I think there would need to be a lot of conditions for the FF teams to stand a chance, they should be capable of putting up a nice fight at least on a planet or two. As the invading forces, it would make the most since for them all to be place on a planet with limited defenses/resources, perhaps one broken light saber, two or more stellar vessels, and enough scraps for the council of Cids to work with. If the FF forces had a planet with limited resources as there territory, before imperial forces destroy said planet, they might be able to do something.

Also with existing material that can deflect a light saber, and since most FF cast obtain at least one magical weapon, I'm thinking a light saber doesn't flay all weapons. At least not magical ones or those treated with 'cortz'? I'll never remember the name of that red stuff, but if a non force user can fight a force user, I'm thinking the gap should be much closer with a magic user.

How hard is it to get/ make a light saber? I thought the crystal for the laser was the hardest part. Surely the Cids could figure out the tech and send the heros on a grand adventure to acquire needed parts, leveling up in the SW world while doing so.

How does force abilities match up to FF magic and espers? All the FF bosses are insane magic users, so could even one of them learn to use the force?

Moogles and Chocobos could possibly infiltrate a few neighboring planets breeding an army of chocobo knights, or just chocobos... but they have a mysticism similar to yoda about them. I'ld like to see Mog try to reason with the green muppet and his other moogles trying to fight, forcing the two would be friends into mortal enemies. The exchange ends with Mog being the last of his kind, like Yoda, and now force sensitive. Mog trains the more spiritual FF members...

I could go on but the FF forces would still fall short, in my mind, as they lack the tools to fuel a true campaign.

Taking this into mind couldnt the cids just use materia from ff7 to create light saber duplicates, not exactly light sabers but magical swords with magical properties aka. Thunder Materia sword imbued with thunder, or ultima materia sword which would be awesome.. OR! meteor materia sword would be devastating! or...or..or.. well you get my point, consider the possibilities though.

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:59 am**

Gigastorm wrote:
AxiomScion wrote: While I think there would need to be a lot of conditions for the FF teams to stand a chance, they should be capable of putting up a nice fight at least on a planet or two. As the invading forces, it would make the most since for them all to be place on a planet with limited defenses/resources, perhaps one broken light saber, two or more stellar vessels, and enough scraps for the council of Cids to work with. If the FF forces had a planet with limited resources as there territory, before imperial forces destroy said planet, they might be able to do something.

Also with existing material that can deflect a light saber, and since most FF cast obtain at least one magical weapon, I'm thinking a light saber doesn't flay all weapons. At least not magical ones or those treated with 'cortz'? I'll never remember the name of that red stuff, but if a non force user can fight a force user, I'm thinking the gap should be much closer with a magic user.

How hard is it to get/ make a light saber? I thought the crystal for the laser was the hardest part. Surely the Cids could figure out the tech and send the heros on a grand adventure to acquire needed parts, leveling up in the SW world while doing so.

How does force abilities match up to FF magic and espers? All the FF bosses are insane magic users, so could even one of them learn to use the force?

Moogles and Chocobos could possibly infiltrate a few neighboring planets breeding an army of chocobo knights, or just chocobos... but they have a mysticism similar to yoda about them. I'ld like to see Mog try to reason with the green muppet and his other moogles trying to fight, forcing the two would be friends into mortal enemies. The exchange ends with Mog being the last of his kind, like Yoda, and now force sensitive. Mog trains the more spiritual FF members...

I could go on but the FF forces would still fall short, in my mind, as they lack the tools to fuel a true campaign.

Taking this into mind couldnt the cids just use materia from ff7 to create light saber duplicates, not exactly light sabers but magical swords with magical properties aka. Thunder Materia sword imbued with thunder, or ultima materia sword which would be awesome.. OR! meteor materia sword would be devastating! or...or..or.. well you get my point, consider the possibilities though.

It's quite possible that they could. But a sword is only as good as the person using it.

Lightsabers are tricky to use, since the only weight of the lightsaber itself is the hilt, this makes the lightsaber unwieldy. The Jedi have trained for years mastering the use of lightsaber, so they know the amount of force required for a swing in order to avoid accidentally losing any limbs.

If the Cids created lightsabers and started handing them out, there would be so many accidents among the FF people, they'd be doing more harm to themselves than what the Jedi would do. Solely because the people are trained or used to dealing with a sword whose blade has literally, zero weight.

Then training people in order to use them would take longer than what they have. So it would probably be considered pointless to train someone to use a new weapon in such a short amount of time available.

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:07 pm**

so we give it to MOG and he trains everyone super fast

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:30 pm**

Gigastorm wrote:so we give it to MOG and he trains everyone super fast

...A moogle? Are you kidding? You expect a moogle to train everyone? A special, English-speaking moogle, but a fluffy small creature nonetheless.

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:12 pm**

Shadowman wrote:
Gigastorm wrote:so we give it to MOG and he trains everyone super fast

...A moogle? Are you kidding? You expect a moogle to train everyone? A special, English-speaking moogle, but a fluffy small creature nonetheless.

Not to mention, knowing how to use a lightsaber without hurting oneself, and knowing how to fight with a lightsaber are two entirely different things.

Each Jedi Knight and Master is a master of one or more lightsaber fighting styles. There are 7 styles all together.

And there is easily no way a Moogle could master all 7 enough to teach everyone else.

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:26 pm**

Senor Hugo wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Gigastorm wrote:so we give it to MOG and he trains everyone super fast

...A moogle? Are you kidding? You expect a moogle to train everyone? A special, English-speaking moogle, but a fluffy small creature nonetheless.

Not to mention, knowing how to use a lightsaber without hurting oneself, and knowing how to fight with a lightsaber are two entirely different things.

Each Jedi Knight and Master is a master of one or more lightsaber fighting styles. There are 7 styles all together.

And there is easily no way a Moogle could master all 7 enough to teach everyone else.

And it takes years to use it at the proficiency of Obi-Wan, Anakin, Yoda, Mace Windu, or anyone else from Star Wars.

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:48 pm**

okay how about this... The cids find a way to imbue every ff characters weapon with magic so they cant be broken by lightsabers so they wont have to worry about training in lightsabers and they can save that for final fantasy 1 characters and their sprityness

the dictionary wrote:sprityness- adj. to be made of sprite pictures or whatever

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