The Energon Pub

The final battle continues.
rules

9-tailed fox
no teleporting
disguise pen allowed
Shadow clones allowed
Pluto can time stop with ease and can use it as log as she wants
All senshi including starlights, commet senshi, tux mask, the cats, and the chibis.

All senshi are at top form

Any threat the Senshi could pose, Naruto can simply create more Shadow Clones. Each of those clones can create an energy attack made to exert enough force to make things explode. And I think it's worth noting that there is no "original" among them, until there's only one standing.

Naruto wins.

Yes but Pluto can stop time, leaving an opening for a little while

and moon could use the disguise pen to turn into naruto and make shadow clones

bumblebeerocks wrote:Yes but Pluto can stop time, leaving an opening for a little while

A move she isn't supposed to use, and only used once in either anime or manga, and died in the process. And with hundreds of targets, the effect would ear off before the Senshi could put a significant dent in Naruto's clones. Naruto would keep fighting, with one less target.

Shadowman wrote:

bumblebeerocks wrote:Yes but Pluto can stop time, leaving an opening for a little while

A move she isn't supposed to use, and only used once in either anime or manga, and died in the process. And with hundreds of targets, the effect would ear off before the Senshi could put a significant dent in Naruto's clones. Naruto would keep fighting, with one less target.

What if i threw animated Megatron into this fight?
I think the senshi and naruto would be dead meat.

I'm 100% certain we already discussed to length as to why Naruto would stomp all over the scouts.

However, for a refresher course on why.

I give you this. Terrible music selection aside.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBkpp3QT3ZQ

Note: This is with only the fourth tail having manifested.

The scouts don't stand a chance in hell.

The only anime that would stand any sort of a chance would be, as mentioned to length beforehand, and shall be mentioned again. Would be the folks of DBZ.

Senor Hugo wrote:I'm 100% certain we already discussed to length as to why Naruto would stomp all over the scouts.

However, for a refresher course on why.

I give you this. Terrible music selection aside.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBkpp3QT3ZQ

Note: This is with only the fourth tail having manifested.

The scouts don't stand a chance in hell.

The only anime that would stand any sort of a chance would be, as mentioned to length beforehand, and shall be mentioned again. Would be the folks of DBZ.

That was awesome!
A shame that German Naruto fans will never see those scenes on TV, fu**ing retarded broadcaster.
I would love to see Naruto fighting Alucard in that form!

sailor moon has the disguise pen. she coult turn into naruto and use his powers too.

Ok, sure Sailor Moon has the disguise pen.

But it's only a disguise.

Meaning she wouldn't actually turn into the nine-tailed fox possessed Naruto.

Not to mention, there was only one time, when she turned into a sailor, so she could get the skills needed to sail a boat.

What would the disguise pen do against Naruto as the 9-tails. Give her the skills needed to know how to turn into a demon fox? To give her the skills needed to know how to kill someone?

Even if she did end up able to manipulate energy on a scale like the nine-tails used. This was ONLY his 4th tail appearing, he has 5 more to go.

The ability to cause that huge energy blast would crush Sailor Moon with no doubt.

No matter how you go about it. Sailor Moon, and the Sailor Scouts, die facing Naruto.

No Transformer added in would be able to beat Naruto.

The Scouts die.

Senor Hugo wrote:
No Transformer added in would be able to beat Naruto.

Lol. learn 2 unicron.

bumblebeerocks wrote:

Senor Hugo wrote:
No Transformer added in would be able to beat Naruto.

Lol. learn 2 unicron.

Now see, I don't enjoy being insulted. So "plz lern 2 use logic"

Yes, because Unicron is SOOOOOOOOO powerful that he can only be beaten by a cosmic flashlight.

Naruto hops inside of Unicron, starts flooding him with shadow clones, he does enoug damage to bring Unicron down.

OR

Naruto is inside him ends up getting hurt to the point of going Nine-Tails, does the same energy blast as in the video.

Unicron goes down.

Unicron cannot ONLY be beaten by the Matrix.

The Matrix is more like an anti-virus software.

It only makes it easier to beat Unicron.

But there are other ways to do so.

Senor Hugo wrote:

bumblebeerocks wrote:

Senor Hugo wrote:
No Transformer added in would be able to beat Naruto.

Lol. learn 2 unicron.

Now see, I don't enjoy being insulted. So "plz lern 2 use logic"

Yes, because Unicron is SOOOOOOOOO powerful that he can only be beaten by a cosmic flashlight.

Naruto hops inside of Unicron, starts flooding him with shadow clones, he does enoug damage to bring Unicron down.

OR

Naruto is inside him ends up getting hurt to the point of going Nine-Tails, does the same energy blast as in the video.

Unicron goes down.

Unicron cannot ONLY be beaten by the Matrix.

The Matrix is more like an anti-virus software.

It only makes it easier to beat Unicron.

But there are other ways to do so.

or he could just step on the planet naruto is on and crush him.

bumblebeerocks wrote:
or he could just step on the planet naruto is on and crush him.

Because that worked out just dandy in the past.

The nine-tails fox is a demon.

Unicron is just a giant robot.

Demon > Robot

Senor Hugo wrote:

bumblebeerocks wrote:
or he could just step on the planet naruto is on and crush him.

Because that worked out just dandy in the past.

The nine-tails fox is a demon.

Unicron is just a giant robot.

Demon > Robot

yes, but unicron is satan.

and R.I.P. shockwave

he was crushed by unicron's foot. or fist.

bumblebeerocks wrote:

Senor Hugo wrote:

bumblebeerocks wrote:
or he could just step on the planet naruto is on and crush him.

Because that worked out just dandy in the past.

The nine-tails fox is a demon.

Unicron is just a giant robot.

Demon > Robot

yes, but unicron is satan.

No. See. You're wrong.

Unicron is considered the ultimate evil...to the Transformers. He is considered their Satan.

But he is JUST another robot.

The nine-tailed fox on the other hand is an actual demon. Supernatural powers type demon.

Supernatural > Mechanical
Demon > Robot


It's the exact same way that thousands of planets fear Galactus. He could easily be considered their ultimate evil. But then Galactus gets his ass handed to him how many times by people inhabiting one single planet?

comparing naruto and the sailor scouts and unicron is like comparing lucky star to youtube poop.

let's drop it.

Are we assuming this is the sailors at thier normal levels or end of series plot device levels. Normal they loose horribly

Sailor moon at full power is a planetary scale reality warper. Brinnging people back from the dead turning back time and that was just the first series. They were very cosmic by the end.

Supernatural > Mechanical
Demon > Robot

Tell that to every super robot that killed demons or gods.

But then Galactus gets his ass handed to him how many times by people inhabiting one single planet?

A number of times but he's always weakened. Besides someone like Thor or sentry could engage the entire cast of Naruto in combat and win.

Well see, thats just the thing.

Unicron isn't a Super Robot. He's just a gigantic robot who eats planets.

However he gets his ass regularly stomped no matter what series it is. By relatively normal robots who are from an alien planet(All things considered, the Transformers are the most mundane of robots in anime)

The nine-tails fox destroyed everything it came across until one guy did a suicide play to put a leash on the nine-tails. It wasn't actually beaten.

When considering demons, there are weaker ones, there are more powerful ones. The nine-tails, in the Naruto universe is the most powerful demon there is.

In his case, there isn't a bigger fish. They(demons) can't be killed, merely returned to where they came until they regain their power. This is why an afterlife is portrayed in just about every anime. The demons go right back to their part of it.

Robots on the other hand, can be killed, their bodies destroyed, their memory programs destroyed.

The Matrix we know can be destroyed, it's just an external harddrive/Cosmic Flashlight.

Demons can be beaten, but demons cannot be killed.

Robots can be beaten, and robots can be killed.

Like I said, Supernatural > Mechanical

Unicron is a super robot. The term super robot comes from the super robot wars games. Asuper robot being a large mech that has high attack and tanks attacks rather than dodges them.

Unicron is a dark god inhabiting a robot body. Its seems rediculous to compare a dark god that destroys universes versus a demon that ruffed up Japan.

Where do we devide super natural and mechanical? Most higher end anime robots have elements of both.

Besides that end of series Sailort moon would defeat Naruto

Inferno Prime wrote:Unicron is a super robot. The term super robot comes from the super robot wars games. Asuper robot being a large mech that has high attack and tanks attacks rather than dodges them.

Unicron is a dark god inhabiting a robot body. Its seems rediculous to compare a dark god that destroys universes versus a demon that ruffed up Japan.

Where do we devide super natural and mechanical? Most higher end anime robots have elements of both.

Besides that end of series Sailort moon would defeat Naruto

Unicron is a dark god who remains in astral form until he made himself essentially a puppet of his body he controls in his stead.

Let me use a better example.

Gozer, a Sumerian god, a full fledged bonafide god, all the gods having created mankind to be their slaves. Had destroyed several, upon several civilizations.

But ended up being beaten by 4 New Yorkers with proton packs.

Why? Because Gozer's body happened to be that of a 200 ft Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.

Dark-God in Robot Body = Very weak, easily dispatched Dark "God."

If Unicron had his original body, then he would be a true Dark God.

Unicron in the robot-body has none of the powers he had in his original form. So he manufactured his robot body the best he could.

The Nine Tails, has all of its powers available to it. The only stipulation being the demon-fox's nine tails have to manifest in order for it to being at full power. The speed at which this happens varies.

Senor Hugo wrote:But he is JUST another robot.

I thought unicron was the dark god of chaos.

But I honestly think that Naruto from shipouden would trounce the scouts, while the 14 year old would have to rely on his demon transformation which would kill the scouts but probably leave him half dead if he managed to get back under control.

Psycho Warrior wrote:

Senor Hugo wrote:But he is JUST another robot.

I thought unicron was the dark god of chaos.

But I honestly think that Naruto from shipouden would trounce the scouts, while the 14 year old would have to rely on his demon transformation which would kill the scouts but probably leave him half dead if he managed to get back under control.

Naruto is twelve in the original anime. He's 14 in Shippuden.

That really says something about the Naruto universe; most people are unholy gods of Death by the time they reach age twelve.

Shadowman wrote:

Psycho Warrior wrote:

Senor Hugo wrote:But he is JUST another robot.

I thought unicron was the dark god of chaos.

But I honestly think that Naruto from shipouden would trounce the scouts, while the 14 year old would have to rely on his demon transformation which would kill the scouts but probably leave him half dead if he managed to get back under control.

Naruto is twelve in the original anime. He's 14 in Shippuden.

That really says something about the Naruto universe; most people are unholy gods of Death by the time they reach age twelve.

That's one of the reasons I don't like Naruto: he's unbalanced as all hell and he's only 12. I love the fact that Homer can whoop his ass in Mugen.

Inferno Prime wrote:
Besides that end of series Sailor moon would defeat Naruto

yes. finaly someone who can realise the truth

Over-powered and impossible. Stinging nettles win.