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Hulk. the only way Sups could beat him is the pansy way out: IE throwing him into space or lobotomizing him. But in a real fight, it's no contest the big green man takes it.

Psycho Warrior wrote:Hulk. the only way Sups could beat him is the pansy way out: IE throwing him into space or lobotomizing him.

Its been years since I've read it, but didn't Superman beat Hulk in DC vs Marvel?

I still think Hulk would win though

original sin wrote:

Psycho Warrior wrote:Hulk. the only way Sups could beat him is the pansy way out: IE throwing him into space or lobotomizing him.

Its been years since I've read it, but didn't Superman beat Hulk in DC vs Marvel?

I still think Hulk would win though

sadly I don't remember that.

According to wiki I remembered correctly

Aquaman vs. Namor the Sub-Mariner
Elektra vs. Catwoman
Flash vs. Quicksilver
Robin vs. Jubilee
Silver Surfer vs. Green Lantern
Thor vs. Captain Marvel
Batman vs. Captain America
Spider-Man vs. Superboy
Storm vs. Wonder Woman
Superman vs. Hulk
Wolverine vs. Lobo

Victors are the bolded names. From Batman vs Captain America to Wolverine vs Lobo was voted on by fans though. The Spider-Man was Ben Reilly instead of Peter Parker.

Oh, man, not an easy fight to call. I figure Superman would realize that Hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier, and he'd try to calm him down somehow, and probably let Bruce Banner stay in the Fortress of Solitude.

Or beat him to a stand-still like he did with Doomsday, in which case both go down.

Superman definitely has the powers and the strengths to beat the Hulk.....what he doesnt have is the smarts and the balls.

So I guess it really depends on which Hulk were talking about.

Savage Hulk gets beat.....but any of the smart Hulks have a pretty good chance.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Superman definitely has the powers and the strengths to beat the Hulk.....what he doesnt have is the smarts and the balls.

So I guess it really depends on which Hulk were talking about.

Savage Hulk gets beat.....but any of the smart Hulks have a pretty good chance.

Superman's not as smart as Batman, but he's not an idiot...but yeah, any of the smart Hulk's would probably be able to handle him. But then, the Hulk everyone remembers is the big green rage-filled destruction machine whose most complex phrase is "HULK SMASH PUNY HU-MAN!"

Shadowman wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Superman definitely has the powers and the strengths to beat the Hulk.....what he doesnt have is the smarts and the balls.

So I guess it really depends on which Hulk were talking about.

Savage Hulk gets beat.....but any of the smart Hulks have a pretty good chance.

Superman's not as smart as Batman, but he's not an idiot...but yeah, any of the smart Hulk's would probably be able to handle him. But then, the Hulk everyone remembers is the big green rage-filled destruction machine whose most complex phrase is "HULK SMASH PUNY HU-MAN!"

I doesnt really matter which Hulk most people remember because the original poster didnt specify which Hulk should be the focuse of this debate.

So I thought it would be smart to make a reply that covered most of them.

Superspeed. Why does everyone forget Superman has it. Is it because he never used in JLU? Every other media loves the speed especially smallville. Hulk will only hit superman if Hulk lets him. This isn't a marvel comic where everyone but spider-man slows themselves down so Hulk can win.

Doomsday does have superspeed. He's been compared to the flash before.

Superman is effectivly pre crisis levels again. In the last sixth months he has:

Lifted a book with infinite weight
Moved the Earth with the help of harness built by Hal Jordan
Heard a conversation on Earth while flying by Jupiter
Supervised the construction of the most advanced machine in existance.
Broke through a forcefield the rest of the worlds heroes combined were unable to dent.
Sang a God who was colapsing the multiverse out of existance.
His reflexes are so fast that when the flash ran past him at faster than light speeds he could tell it was the newly resurected Barry allen rather than Wally.
Claimed his punches were planet destroying while still holding the majority of his strength back.

Superman and batman are equally smart. Batman is a better detective and Superman has a much better grasp of technology.

Inferno Prime wrote:Superspeed. Why does everyone forget Superman has it. Is it because he never used in JLU? Every other media loves the speed especially smallville. Hulk will only hit superman if Hulk lets him. This isn't a marvel comic where everyone but spider-man slows themselves down so Hulk can win.

Doomsday does have superspeed. He's been compared to the flash before.

Superman is effectivly pre crisis levels again. In the last sixth months he has:

Lifted a book with infinite weight
Moved the Earth with the help of harness built by Hal Jordan
Heard a conversation on Earth while flying by Jupiter
Supervised the construction of the most advanced machine in existance.
Broke through a forcefield the rest of the worlds heroes combined were unable to dent.
Sang a God who was colapsing the multiverse out of existance.
His reflexes are so fast that when the flash ran past him at faster than light speeds he could tell it was the newly resurected Barry allen rather than Wally.
Claimed his punches were planet destroying while still holding the majority of his strength back.

To all of this I only have to say the same thing I always say.....all the power and strength is useless unless you have the will to use it.

And thats why I say the Hulk has a chance......yes Superman can do all those things but he's never shown the will to use any of those abilities in an offensive manner.

And an offensive attack is what he will need to beat the Hulk down since there's no real upper limit to how strong the Hulk can get.

So Superman would have to be willing to kill the Hulk to win [at least with one of the smart angry Hulks] and its not really in Supermans character to act that way.

And BTW.....

Inferno Prime wrote:Superman and batman are equally smart. Batman is a better detective and Superman has a much better grasp of technology.

Hardly.........I know they tried to re-introduce the idea of "super-intelligence" but so far they have failed to really bring that concept to fruition.

And just about anytime Sup's encounters a new alien tech he brings it to Bat's for study.

DC may someday bring back the days of Superman being as smart as Batman........but that Day isint here yet.

And thats why I say the Hulk has a chance......yes Superman can do all those things but he's never shown the will to use any of those abilities in an offensive manner.

Try reading some Superman comics. He beats the stuffing out his rogues gallery routinely, a much more power set of villains than hulk has. Superman has killed more people than the hulk has.

I could show you dozens of instances from the last few years of Superman owning enemies using speed.

So Superman would have to be willing to kill the Hulk to win [at least with one of the smart angry Hulks] and its not really in Supermans character to act that way.

Hulk's been knocked out a number of times. Iron man, Red hulk and abomination have all done it.

And just about anytime Sup's encounters a new alien tech he brings it to Bat's for study.

Name a time since Superman gained super intelligence.

Batman has appeared twice in Superman and once in action comics since Infinite crisis. Only one of those times did superman ask for technological help, borrowing Batman's red sun emitter and noting he could improve the technology.

If needed science advice he'd go to steel or A.I Jor el.

Inferno Prime wrote:Try reading some Superman comics.

Think before you post.

Dont assume that just because I dont agree that it would be an eazy battle for Superman to win that I dont read Superman comics.

And remember I said Hulk has a chance not that he would out right win.

Inferno Prime wrote: He beats the stuffing out his rogues gallery routinely, a much more power set of villains than hulk has.

Which proves nothing

Inferno Prime wrote: Superman has killed more people than the hulk has.

As far as I know Superman has only intentionally killed 4 characters.Altho 1 keeps coming back.

And even that proves nothing since Superman has proven un-willing to kill anyone hows even remotely human.

Inferno Prime wrote:I could show you dozens of instances from the last few years of Superman owning enemies using speed.

And I can show you dozen of instances in which Superman is beat or almost beat by Lex or Batman.

The point I'm trying to make is....if Batman and Lex can get that close to beating Superman [or actually doing it] one of the smart Hulks stands a good chance.

Inferno Prime wrote:Hulk's been knocked out a number of times. Iron man, Red hulk and abomination have all done it.

Superman's been beat or near death a number of time.Lex,Batman and Metalo have all done it.

So whats your point????

Inferno Prime wrote:Name a time since Superman gained super intelligence.

I'll have to do a bit of research to answer that question.....

Inferno Prime wrote:Batman has appeared twice in Superman and once in action comics since Infinite crisis. Only one of those times did superman ask for technological help, borrowing Batman's red sun emitter and noting he could improve the technology.

And you think that ,that one example is evidence enough that Superman has gained super intelligence????

I call that a "developing super intelligence" and I stand by my earlier statement.

Inferno Prime wrote:If needed science advice he'd go to steel or A.I Jor el.

In the recent past Superman has gone to Bats looking for help with technical matters.

You cant dismise that just because he more recently he's gone to others.

Inferno Prime wrote: Superman has killed more people than the hulk has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

Hulk has kill hundreds of people throughout his career besides I can't see the point in the argument that because one character killed more people then the other he has the upper hand, that's like saying Just cos the Punisher killed way more people then kid SonGoku he would win in a fight.
Truth is, if Superman gets in the way of the World War Hulk he'll loose. Hulk doesn't care about super speed he just grabs Superman before he even reaches him then crushes him, Superman's called the man of steel guess what Hulk has crushed tougher things then steel.

Shadowman wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Inferno Prime wrote: Superman has killed more people than the hulk has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

Hulk has kill hundreds of people throughout his career besides I can't see the point in the argument that because one character killed more people then the other he has the upper hand, that's like saying Just cos the Punisher killed way more people then kid SonGoku he would win in a fight.

Yeah, that's not a good argument...how has Superman killed more people than the Hulk?

Dead Metal wrote:Truth is, if Superman gets in the way of the World War Hulk he'll loose. Hulk doesn't care about super speed he just grabs Superman before he even reaches him then crushes him, Superman's called the man of steel guess what Hulk has crushed tougher things then steel.

"Steel" is more of a metaphor for how indestructible he is. I seem to remember something about Superman diving into the sun to recharge. I'm not sure if Hulk could do that, and if he could, he'd have trouble getting off the sun. Then it's a matter of staying angry just so he won't turn back into Bruce Banner and die instantly.

I know it's just a metaphor but still Hulk has crushed hard things very hard things so he wouldn't have a problem with crushing Supsy. Serves Superman right that he has "The man of Steel" as a title choosing such a soft metal was very unwise .

Dead Metal wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Inferno Prime wrote: Superman has killed more people than the hulk has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

Hulk has kill hundreds of people throughout his career besides I can't see the point in the argument that because one character killed more people then the other he has the upper hand, that's like saying Just cos the Punisher killed way more people then kid SonGoku he would win in a fight.

Yeah, that's not a good argument...how has Superman killed more people than the Hulk?

Dead Metal wrote:Truth is, if Superman gets in the way of the World War Hulk he'll loose. Hulk doesn't care about super speed he just grabs Superman before he even reaches him then crushes him, Superman's called the man of steel guess what Hulk has crushed tougher things then steel.

"Steel" is more of a metaphor for how indestructible he is. I seem to remember something about Superman diving into the sun to recharge. I'm not sure if Hulk could do that, and if he could, he'd have trouble getting off the sun. Then it's a matter of staying angry just so he won't turn back into Bruce Banner and die instantly.

I know it's just a metaphor but still Hulk has crushed hard things very hard things so he wouldn't have a problem with crushing Supsy. Serves Superman right that he has "The man of Steel" as a title choosing such a soft metal was very unwise .

How many things has Hulk killed that can not only survive being thrown into the sun, but become stronger for it?

Shadowman wrote:How many things has Hulk killed that can not only survive being thrown into the sun, but become stronger for it?

I have no idea as I don't read the Hulk comics regulary. But judging by his powers and abilities on his wiki page let it look like his body can take on Superman and being chucked into the sun.

Dead Metal wrote:

Shadowman wrote:How many things has Hulk killed that can not only survive being thrown into the sun, but become stronger for it?

I have no idea as I don't read the Hulk comics regulary. But judging by his powers and abilities on his wiki page let it look like his body can take on Superman and being chucked into the sun.

Both of them being on the Sun is where things get interesting; The physical pain from being on the Sun would cause Hulk to get angrier and stronger, while Superman's direct exposure to yellow sunlight would also cause him to gin a substantial increase in power.

Alternatively, it's more of a matter of landing both on the sun, then Superman flying away.

See, Superman can escape the sun's gravity; Hulk can't. Even if Hulk can survive, he can't leave.

I'm not trying to make a hudge argument out of this but......Superman does out class Hulk in powers and strength.

To put it simply worlds crumble under the punch of Hulk but Supermans punches can shatter universes.

But thats not saying that Hulk doesnt stand a chance.......its a slim one thou.

Superman will take this, but it would be a Tough, long and very tiresome battle. Both Hulk and Superman will be tired, worn out bruised.But Supermen has a speed, which quite frankly...I am not sure if Hulk can catch Superman while in his top speed.Hulk cant escape Suns gravity, so to maintain his Hulk form, he would have to get constantly angrier.And that would have to end somewhere....so he'll turn into banner, and when that happens, he'll simply evaporate in the Sun.

Tough Scorponok wrote:Superman will take this, but it would be a Tough, long and very tiresome battle. Both Hulk and Superman will be tired, worn out bruised.But Supermen has a speed, which quite frankly...I am not sure if Hulk can catch Superman while in his top speed.Hulk cant escape Suns gravity, so to maintain his Hulk form, he would have to get constantly angrier.And that would have to end somewhere....so he'll turn into banner, and when that happens, he'll simply evaporate in the Sun.

Please quit necro bumbing topics thad have been dead for a month. we had just gotten all these hulk vs crap ones off the top of the screen.

Sometimes things die for a reason

That was my Idea of Ending the Topic. By not leaving any way to continue it. Thanx.

Getting in the last word isn't "ending the topic" it's just stirring the pot.

Superman wins.

Why?

Easy, he's a dick.

Just because he is a D I C K, doesnt make him win. Anyhow, killing someones argument is basically ending the conversation. In the Sun, Superman survives, and Hulk does not. That makes Superman win.Now Happy?.