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It's a fight to the death, who wins?

wow. whoever bleeds slower. in a fight this painful there is no winner, except the people watching (maybe).

It really depends; where are they, and are there any weapons or objects that can be used as weapons lying around?

Rorschach is tough, but Frank has his Special Forces training, as well as skill with a variety of weapons and hand-to-hand. Ultimately, I'd say it goes to the Punisher.

Shadowman wrote:It really depends; where are they, and are there any weapons or objects that can be used as weapons lying around?

Rorschach is tough, but Frank has his Special Forces training, as well as skill with a variety of weapons and hand-to-hand. Ultimately, I'd say it goes to the Punisher.

given the 2 of them, id wager some american urban enviroment, probably very slummy.

the difference is rorsh brobably wouldn't COME armed. while both are good combatants, i think punisher has the upper hand.

well, to be honest, i would say rorschach has this one.
Punisher just uses weapons, but if it was a brawl between the two, rorschach would win.
The punisher is a big guy, and he's slow, but strong and knows how to do hand to hand combat
but rorschach is small, very strong, and very quick

now in the movie watchmen, i was a bit dissapointed when rorschach wa taken down by like 5 or 6 cops
but on punisher war zone, he was taken down by 1 freakin cop
thats pathetic

now, since punisher is big and slow, and rorschach is samll, strong, and very fast, he would murder the punisher hands down

rorschach_beast wrote:well, to be honest, i would say rorschach has this one.
Punisher just uses weapons, but if it was a brawl between the two, rorschach would win.
The punisher is a big guy, and he's slow, but strong and knows how to do hand to hand combat
but rorschach is small, very strong, and very quick

now in the movie watchmen, i was a bit dissapointed when rorschach wa taken down by like 5 or 6 cops
but on punisher war zone, he was taken down by 1 freakin cop
thats pathetic

now, since punisher is big and slow, and rorschach is samll, strong, and very fast, he would murder the punisher hands down

Frank is ex-Special Forces; he has expert training in armed and unarmed combat. Rorschach basically had to teach himself, and he's never, as far as I can remember, shown using a gun.

As for War Zone, that was crap anyway. The 2004 Punisher movie was the good one.

Also, it was never said this fight was only hand-to-hand, just to the death. And Rorschach can't dodge or survive a bullet to the head.

Punisher pwns the Watchman, most likely with a semi automatic weapon.

Shadowman wrote:

rorschach_beast wrote:well, to be honest, i would say rorschach has this one.
Punisher just uses weapons, but if it was a brawl between the two, rorschach would win.
The punisher is a big guy, and he's slow, but strong and knows how to do hand to hand combat
but rorschach is small, very strong, and very quick

now in the movie watchmen, i was a bit dissapointed when rorschach wa taken down by like 5 or 6 cops
but on punisher war zone, he was taken down by 1 freakin cop
thats pathetic

now, since punisher is big and slow, and rorschach is samll, strong, and very fast, he would murder the punisher hands down

Frank is ex-Special Forces; he has expert training in armed and unarmed combat. Rorschach basically had to teach himself, and he's never, as far as I can remember, shown using a gun.

As for War Zone, that was crap anyway. The 2004 Punisher movie was the good one.

Also, it was never said this fight was only hand-to-hand, just to the death. And Rorschach can't dodge or survive a bullet to the head.

good point
i would have to say weapon wise, punisher has him, but bawling wise, rorschach owns.
ive never seen punisher use hand to hand combat anyway though, wel not better than rorschach anyway

but it woulnt really be fair to use guns against roschach
they should just brawl, that wuld be a more fair and better match
becuz if punisher brings HIS guns to the fite, then i suspect that rorschach wouldnt last long

rorschach_beast wrote:good point
i would have to say weapon wise, punisher has him, but bawling wise, rorschach owns.
ive never seen punisher use hand to hand combat anyway though, wel not better than rorschach anyway

Once again; Walter is self-taught, Frank has Special Forces training. There's a huge skill gap there, in Frank's favor.

rorschach_beast wrote:but it woulnt really be fair to use guns against roschach
they should just brawl, that wuld be a more fair and better match
becuz if punisher brings HIS guns to the fite, then i suspect that rorschach wouldnt last long

Frank, I think, has never once cared about what is or is not "fair."

Shadowman wrote:

rorschach_beast wrote:good point
i would have to say weapon wise, punisher has him, but bawling wise, rorschach owns.
ive never seen punisher use hand to hand combat anyway though, wel not better than rorschach anyway

Once again; Walter is self-taught, Frank has Special Forces training. There's a huge skill gap there, in Frank's favor.

rorschach_beast wrote:but it woulnt really be fair to use guns against roschach
they should just brawl, that wuld be a more fair and better match
becuz if punisher brings HIS guns to the fite, then i suspect that rorschach wouldnt last long

Frank, I think, has never once cared about what is or is not "fair."

Seriously, that guy has a knife, that shoots its blade into the opponents face!
He fights dirty and likes it.

Dead Metal wrote:Seriously, that guy has a knife, that shoots its blade into the opponents face!
He fights dirty and likes it.

The knife/gun was made of total win. "Didn't anyone ever tell you to never bring a knife to a gun fight?" And then Frank shoots the blade out of the knife at him. Priceless.

Shadowman wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Seriously, that guy has a knife, that shoots its blade into the opponents face!
He fights dirty and likes it.

The knife/gun was made of total win. "Didn't anyone ever tell you to never bring a knife to a gun fight?" And then Frank shoots the blade out of the knife at him. Priceless.

Awesome, I only know it from the time where he picked on Venom in Funeral Pyre. It was kinda useless against Venom but hell it was cool, I want one.

If its that Punisher Max crap He's win hands down other wise in a street brawl It would at least be a good fight.

Hmmmm kind of a tough one. I want to say Rorschach cause he's a more interesting/developed character, but then the Punisher is an ex-special forces trained to kill whilst my buddy Walter is a brutal street brawler. In my book discipline always beats the undisciplined, but then again there are a few things about Rorschach you all forgot to mention...His Grapple Gun. He could use that to disarm Frank or something. Yes I'm aware he never uses it in a fight, but who's to say that he couldn't? Also Rorschach tends to be quite resourceful, using whatever is around him to his advantage.

In the end I think this fight could go either way, depending on the circumstances, but right now I'm going to say Rorschach.

This would be an interesting fight to say the least! I agree that Punisher has the upper hand in terms of straight-out fighting skills and available arsenal, Rorshach is very resourceful. He's willing to run until he finds a suitable place to set traps and/or ambushes. Impromtu flamethrower, anyone? XD And there's nobody scrappier. The Punisher can take a lot, but Rorshach will never let up. It would be very close.

Rorschach would admire The Punisher, not fight him.