The Energon Pub

As you can see I’m a fan of Ben 10 as well, my TF story line includes: Breakdown, Oil slick, Lugnut, Astrotrain, Brawl, Starscream, Soundwave, Megatron, and that’s about it for my decepticons VS. Ben 10 original aliens with master control, I just thought it wood an interesting vs. idea

All Ben needs to do is turn into Upgrade and take control of them.

Predaprince wrote:All Ben needs to do is turn into Upgrade and take control of them.

These aren't you average lifeless machines though. Whatever 'Con he tries to take over is going to be fighting for control the whole time. Trying to take control might not even work on the strong-willed like Megatron. He'd have to get lucky and pick the one with the weakest will of the group (likely Breakdown).

I'm going with the 'Cons. Lugnut gets off one POKE and it's pretty much over.

Well remember he has the master control so with it I think he could kick the decepticons asses

ben wins as all he has to do is scan them and then can become a transformer. if he losses a limb he just turns into goop for a sec and then back to a transformer

Yeah you are right but remember the omnitrix has over 10’000 aliens in it and I’m pretty sure wheeljack would’ve scanned his own CNA

the cybertronians are alians shouldnt he have one in the omnitrix? and way big is the size as a gestalt.
that being said megatron vs a 10 year old equals a child safty law sute

All Cassettes attack Ben 10!
Con's all the way.Soundwave!

lazerwave217 wrote:All Cassettes attack Ben 10!
Con's all the way.Soundwave!

First we crack the shell then we crack the nuts inside!
RUMBLE cave his head in!
RAVAGE remove limbs!
LASERBEAK shoot his watch!
Soundwave for the win!

momtimus-prime wrote:

lazerwave217 wrote:All Cassettes attack Ben 10!
Con's all the way.Soundwave!

First we crack the shell then we crack the nuts inside!
RUMBLE cave his head in!
RAVAGE remove limbs!
LASERBEAK shoot his watch!
Soundwave for the win!

Going hero, ECHO ECHO. clones himself then goes into all 10,000 aliens, Soundwave in not even a residual stain.

alien x turns them all into the primordial program

shortwave wrote:alien x turns them all into the primordial program

But knowing Serina and Belicus they would disagree.

ebilly99 wrote:

momtimus-prime wrote:

lazerwave217 wrote:All Cassettes attack Ben 10!
Con's all the way.Soundwave!

First we crack the shell then we crack the nuts inside!
RUMBLE cave his head in!
RAVAGE remove limbs!
LASERBEAK shoot his watch!
Soundwave for the win!

Going hero, ECHO ECHO. clones himself then goes into all 10,000 aliens, Soundwave in not even a residual stain.

this is original ben characters
not the gay alien force

then its a child murder onglt way big up grade or dimond head stands a chance

momtimus-prime wrote:

ebilly99 wrote:

momtimus-prime wrote:

lazerwave217 wrote:All Cassettes attack Ben 10!
Con's all the way.Soundwave!

First we crack the shell then we crack the nuts inside!
RUMBLE cave his head in!
RAVAGE remove limbs!
LASERBEAK shoot his watch!
Soundwave for the win!

Going hero, ECHO ECHO. clones himself then goes into all 10,000 aliens, Soundwave in not even a residual stain.

this is original ben characters
not the gay alien force

Sorry then ditto, LOL.

this is original ben characters
not the gay alien force

He still had a cloning form in the original set-up. I believe it was called Ditto.

I'm still standing by the 'Cons on this one. They aren't going to wait and take turns attacking, once they realize what they're up against they'll all rush at once.

Ben so much as scratches the armor of the grand and glorious Megatron, and Lugnut makes him a splatter on the wall.

Twitchythe3rd wrote:

this is original ben characters
not the gay alien force[/quote]

He still had a cloning form in the original set-up. I believe it was called Ditto.

I'm still standing by the 'Cons on this one. They aren't going to wait and take turns attacking, once they realize what they're up against they'll all rush at once.

Ben so much as scratches the armor of the grand and glorious Megatron, and Lugnut makes him a splatter on the wall.[/quote]

actually the omnitrix has over 1 million aliens in it. While that fact was unknown in the orignal run it still holds true. Sides Ben would scan a cybertronian thus he'd be able to become a transformer.

I think it's silly to limit Ben to his original Omnitrix. Open up with the Ultimatrix then we can talk about how he would win. His limitations to the original Omnitrix are too great for him to over come even if he scanned Megatron, thus turning into Megatron, the watch could time out before he had the chance to do any lasting damage.

Aerialbot Commander wrote:I think it's silly to limit Ben to his original Omnitrix. Open up with the Ultimatrix then we can talk about how he would win. His limitations to the original Omnitrix are too great for him to over come even if he scanned Megatron, thus turning into Megatron, the watch could time out before he had the chance to do any lasting damage.

Alrighty then Ultimatrix it is!

Ben scans and becomes scorpionox. Then he goes ultimte.. You know what no, he scans unicron and goes ultimate.

ebilly99 wrote:Ben scans and becomes scorpionox. Then he goes ultimte.. You know what no, he scans unicron and goes ultimate.

How long would it take to scan an organism the size of a freakin' planet?
I imagine realistically a watch sized instrument would take an estimated 24 hours to scan an organism the size of Unicron. All that time though Uniron would have already consumed the planet Ben was standing on. Not a realistic scenario.

I have never noticed any difference in scaning do to the objects size. It took the same amount of time for unix (A unimatrix) to scan a rabit as it took been to scan waybig.

ebilly99 wrote:I have never noticed any difference in scaning do to the objects size. It took the same amount of time for unix (A unimatrix) to scan a rabit as it took been to scan waybig.

1 - Waybig is roughly the size of an average combiner, like Devastator or Predaking.

2 - Unicron is the size of an entire planet. To get a complete scan of something that big is going to take some time.

3 - Unicron would devour the planet Ben is on. He can't scan if he's being eated. Also see 2.

4 - Scanning an all powerful Dark God is probably not the smartest thing to do.

5 - How is he going to scan if eight Decepticons are all bearing down on him at once? Unless they attended Stormtrooper Academy they aren't going to be missing. The splash from a Fusion Cannon alone is likely lethal to organics.

Seriously, Ben has no chance at winning this.

ebilly99 wrote:Ben scans and becomes scorpionox. Then he goes ultimte.. You know what no, he scans unicron and goes ultimate.

Ebilly99, scorpionox is in the BW area, look at the first post and you will see the decepticons in my TF series.