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[Sabrblade]

Also don't get me started on Cybertron. . Maybe I was jaded after seeing some Galaxy Force episodes first, but I knew from the get-go it had nothing to do with Armada/Energon, why they had to shoehorn continuity was beyond me. To make matters worse, TT caved and did in fact retcon it to connect the other series somehow long after it aired... Should have stuck to their guns on that one.

In all honesty, Cybertron was supposed to be another sequel from its conception. GONZO either missed that memo or chose to ignore it when they made the cartoon into being a standalone series. It wasn't America tampering with a Japanese work so much as it was Japan mucking up what America had originally planned for the series in the first place. After all, it was Aaron Archer who drew up and outlined the earliest ideas for it on the so-called "Napkin of Revelation".

[o.supreme]

continuing the conversation here, so we don't get accused of being OT

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[MoonHelix-888]

First four episodes of Combiner Force in French are up.

[WreckerJack]

Some new videos were uploaded on cartoon network's youtube channel today. We have posted them for your viewing pleasure below so you can check out Strongarm and Sideswipe sporting some desert camo. If you are a fan for the Robots in Disguise show be sure to know when the RiD Combiner Force episodes will air, using this article.

[MoonHelix-888]

King of the Hill - Part 1 (in English)

Source

[Sarahthecutevixen]

so far pretty cool, I hope by the end of the series we see more Predacons

[Sabrblade]

so far pretty cool, I hope by the end of the series we see more Predacons

Outside of one flashback of one episode, there are no Predacons in this show.

[Sarahthecutevixen]

so far pretty cool, I hope by the end of the series we see more Predacons

Outside of one flashback of one episode, there are no Predacons in this show.

I know, I still wish to see some, or some generics using the models of predacons

[Sabrblade]

At last! Dailymotion links for episodes 46 and 47:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5kcogh

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5kcoyn

[Jelze Bunnycat]

so far pretty cool, I hope by the end of the series we see more Predacons

Outside of one flashback of one episode, there are no Predacons in this show.

I know, I still wish to see some, or some generics using the models of predacons

We may get a Ser-Ket yet

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Youtuber SeanTF1967 has uploaded 5 new previews for the upcoming episodes of Robots in Disguise: Combiner Force. The episodes, in order, are: Defrosted, Blurred, Sphere of Influence, Bee Cool, and The Great Divide. Previews for the 2-part season opener, King of the Hill, are also available, though those episodes aired this weekend as Combiner Force gets underway. Check out the previews starring the Stunticons and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

[Kurona]

So unless he hit his head really hard, that is most certainly not TFP Breakdown back from the dead.

And Drag Strip is Decepticon Powerglide. Huh. Didn't see that one coming.

[BG the Robit]

If you have Dish On Demand you can watch episodes 3-7 there.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So unless he hit his head really hard, that is most certainly not TFP Breakdown back from the dead.

And Drag Strip is Decepticon Powerglide. Huh. Didn't see that one coming.

The name Breakdown has not shown up in this series at all, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up here

[Kurona]

So unless he hit his head really hard, that is most certainly not TFP Breakdown back from the dead.

And Drag Strip is Decepticon Powerglide. Huh. Didn't see that one coming.

The name Breakdown has not shown up in this series at all, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up here

Simple; TFP Breakdown and RiD Wildbreak are both based upon the same G1 character and have similar visual characteristics, TFP Breakdown's much bigger mass notwithstanding. So naturally one gets to wondering if they were doing a resurrection, especially when we've had quite a few TFP characters come back in the show recently. It's a fair assumption to make.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So unless he hit his head really hard, that is most certainly not TFP Breakdown back from the dead.

And Drag Strip is Decepticon Powerglide. Huh. Didn't see that one coming.

The name Breakdown has not shown up in this series at all, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up here

Simple; TFP Breakdown and RiD Wildbreak are both based upon the same G1 character and have similar visual characteristics, TFP Breakdown's much bigger mass notwithstanding. So naturally one gets to wondering if they were doing a resurrection, especially when we've had quite a few TFP characters come back in the show recently. It's a fair assumption to make.

Um, what?

TFPrime Breakdown was a beefed up G1 Breakdown basically, and Wildbreak doesn't even come close to sharing colors or look with him

[Kurona]

So unless he hit his head really hard, that is most certainly not TFP Breakdown back from the dead.

And Drag Strip is Decepticon Powerglide. Huh. Didn't see that one coming.

The name Breakdown has not shown up in this series at all, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up here

Simple; TFP Breakdown and RiD Wildbreak are both based upon the same G1 character and have similar visual characteristics, TFP Breakdown's much bigger mass notwithstanding. So naturally one gets to wondering if they were doing a resurrection, especially when we've had quite a few TFP characters come back in the show recently. It's a fair assumption to make.

Um, what?

TFPrime Breakdown was a beefed up G1 Breakdown basically, and Wildbreak doesn't even come close to sharing colors or look with him

? Both of them have their primary colour as dark blue, their secondary colour as grey and have a red face. We are talking about the same Wildbreak, right?
And yeah, TFP Breakdown was much more bulky; I'm not saying there's an exact resemblance or anything. But considering the precedent we have for characters from TFP looking very different even in body shape (Soundwave most especially), I still think it was a fair theory to have. It's not like I'm theorising one of Galvatronus' limbs is Bulkhead; there was fair grounding and reasoning for this.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So unless he hit his head really hard, that is most certainly not TFP Breakdown back from the dead.

And Drag Strip is Decepticon Powerglide. Huh. Didn't see that one coming.

The name Breakdown has not shown up in this series at all, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up here

Simple; TFP Breakdown and RiD Wildbreak are both based upon the same G1 character and have similar visual characteristics, TFP Breakdown's much bigger mass notwithstanding. So naturally one gets to wondering if they were doing a resurrection, especially when we've had quite a few TFP characters come back in the show recently. It's a fair assumption to make.

Um, what?

TFPrime Breakdown was a beefed up G1 Breakdown basically, and Wildbreak doesn't even come close to sharing colors or look with him

? Both of them have their primary colour as dark blue, their secondary colour as grey and have a red face. We are talking about the same Wildbreak, right?
And yeah, TFP Breakdown was much more bulky; I'm not saying there's an exact resemblance or anything. But considering the precedent we have for characters from TFP looking very different even in body shape (Soundwave most especially), I still think it was a fair theory to have. It's not like I'm theorising one of Galvatronus' limbs is Bulkhead; there was fair grounding and reasoning for this.

I'm... I'm still not seeing it at all. That is unmistakingly Wildrider. It's not really Breakdown blue and the secondary colors don't really match up either; a little, but not much, but even then it is pretty Wildrider than Prime Breakdown

[Kurona]

So unless he hit his head really hard, that is most certainly not TFP Breakdown back from the dead.

And Drag Strip is Decepticon Powerglide. Huh. Didn't see that one coming.

The name Breakdown has not shown up in this series at all, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up here

Simple; TFP Breakdown and RiD Wildbreak are both based upon the same G1 character and have similar visual characteristics, TFP Breakdown's much bigger mass notwithstanding. So naturally one gets to wondering if they were doing a resurrection, especially when we've had quite a few TFP characters come back in the show recently. It's a fair assumption to make.

Um, what?

TFPrime Breakdown was a beefed up G1 Breakdown basically, and Wildbreak doesn't even come close to sharing colors or look with him

? Both of them have their primary colour as dark blue, their secondary colour as grey and have a red face. We are talking about the same Wildbreak, right?
And yeah, TFP Breakdown was much more bulky; I'm not saying there's an exact resemblance or anything. But considering the precedent we have for characters from TFP looking very different even in body shape (Soundwave most especially), I still think it was a fair theory to have. It's not like I'm theorising one of Galvatronus' limbs is Bulkhead; there was fair grounding and reasoning for this.

I'm... I'm still not seeing it at all. That is unmistakingly Wildrider. It's not really Breakdown blue and the secondary colors don't really match up either; a little, but not much, but even then it is pretty Wildrider than Prime Breakdown

I'm looking at it closer and it does seem like his main colour is close to Wildrider. Think we'll put this down to a blue-and-black-dress/white-and-gold-dress thing.

[Sabrblade]

I was pretty sure that the fact that there was no one named "Breakdown" on this team already made it a given that Prime Breakdown wouldn't be part of this Stunticon team.

Anyway, anyone got any thoughts on the two-part premiere, now that we finally have episode links?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I was pretty sure that the fact that there was no one named "Breakdown" on this team already made it a given that Prime Breakdown wouldn't be part of this Stunticon team.

Anyway, anyone got any thoughts on the two-part premiere, now that we finally have episode links?

Well, seeing Ultra Bee that early was a surprise, and the Stuntwing visit was very unexpected and felt very weird, though Bee flying was cool. I love Motormaster's voice too.

[Kurona]

I was pretty sure that the fact that there was no one named "Breakdown" on this team already made it a given that Prime Breakdown wouldn't be part of this Stunticon team.

Anyway, anyone got any thoughts on the two-part premiere, now that we finally have episode links?

I TELL YOU WHAT, IT WAS alright. Not terrible, nothing amazing; just alright. Kinda how I feel about most of RiD 2015; it's a simple fun kids' show with little risks but that's alright and it's still fun.
I guess the biggest thing I have to say is that I'm not sure how I feel about the cutaways to Russel. On one hand it was a pretty good moral that is a rather important thing to learn and it was nicely done... on the other hand it was really awkwardly chucked into the episode and cut to; it had nothing to do with the rest of the plot and each time it showed up I was just thinking "GET BACK TO THE ACTION!"
So yeah, nice thing, just not very well placed. Also, bit of a shame that Heatseeker doesn't really have any personality outside of evil laughter and saying the word 'chief'. Oh wellllllllllllllllll

Also also, goddammit Soundwave's talkative

[PrymeStriker]

Err, yeah, sure, I'll take one for the team. I thought the first part was kind of sh*t, to be honest. Nothing completely against the writing, though there isn't much of substance in the first episode, but it was moreso clumsy in technical areas. For instance, the animation on Strongarm and Sideswipe through the episode, from when they're sparring in the base to when Sideswipe "transform jumps", seemed really unfinished. Their movements were clunkier than usual. Then, rather a problem with both parts, whoever Heatseeker's voice actor is really sucks donkey ass. The line delivery on that 'con was absolutely abysmal and cringeworthy.

So you can imagine how this makes the first part look when there's a bunch of production problems atop an uneventful story. However, the second part I found improved on everything. The animation wasn't unnatural anymore, the plot was actually going somewhere given we were now focusing more on Bumblebee's overconfidence (which is one of the best things about this two-parter), and then there's all the spoilerific tease at the end. Ultimately, part two was a lot more up-to-speed. Also, for how weirdly Russel's b-plot was shoved into this premiere, I did kinda like it.

Robots in Disguise (2015) has always had these really polarizing premieres. It usually goes that way, where one part is good and the other part is garbage. You just kind of have to go "ehh" by the end of it all, even if one part was worth watching. Therefore, this is just another RID premiere. By-the-numbers.

[Flashwave]

First Complaint: HeatSeeker really coulda been Offroad, since this is now the second time the Stunticons have called on a high performance Pickup.

It was nice seeing Team Bee go up against an actual Decepticon and fall flat on their face. They talked about losing their sharpness and all, but the Bee Team spent all of its "training" up against recently released prisoners. Sure, ther was Screamer, but they had help for him. That being said, I don't feel like this really needed to be 2 episodes. I am not sure what you cut out to to condense it, other than the totally unneeded Football game, as most of the action sequences were needed. but Heatseeker alone wasn't really enough to warrant two episodes. He felt repetitve. I liked his motives, and his stregy, and dare I say it his aggressiveness, although I completely agree with Pryme Striker

, whoever Heatseeker's voice actor is really sucks donkey ass. The line delivery on that 'con was absolutely abysmal and cringeworthy.

on hi vocal delivery.

Sideswipe/Strongarm felt like a step backwards. Surely by now they should be working in better synce in spite of each other's idiosyncracies. Iam kinda tired of that, too.

Poor Grimlock.

The Minicon really felt like a "To Sell Toys!" moment. ZFlying Bunblebee served no purpose, and as far as knocking loose his DH and scanner, that could easily have been chalked up to his regular battle with HeatSeeker. Is what it is though, I guess.

I am however, truly excited to see the Stunticons in action. Not sure why, but I have really resonated with them and even before Season 2 thought they would be good opponents for an Earth-based Autobot team. No huge interstellar plots, just good old King of the Road.

Soundwave spoke! While I, Like a lot of others, enjoyed his silent Prime run, lets be realistic, how else is he going to communicate when he's in another dimension? Gesture wildly? Shadow puppets? Long as he is not a chatterbox.

Fanfiction idea: What if, instead of Megatronus, it was Soundwave who orchestrated the crashing of the Alchemor on Earth? I've toyed with that thought for a long time, had they done that, they would have saved a season of "How is this a Sequel?"

I wonder how Soundwave gets loose from the Shadowzone?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Seibertronian Zeedust has been kind enough to notify us that Episodes 1-7 of the new Robots in Disguise: Combiner Force show are now on Cartoon Network: On-Demand! The On-Demand service requires you to have an account to watch the shows, and the service is region locked, being only available in the US. You can check out the videos HERE and let us know what you think of these new episodes in the comments section below!