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Re: New Clear Images Of Transformers Legends LG15 Nightbird, LG16 Slipstream and LG17 Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:32 am

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Well then, that really works. Never seen that kind of pic before, so yeah, it works! thanks! :BOT:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Shockwave7 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:32 am

mooncake623 wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:They'll be neat when fully done, I think. But they have their flaws, no doubt about it.

Nightbird retains the problem of the Arcee mold, namely, her 'child birthing' hips.

Slipstream looks... very chipper for a fem Con.

And I'm not sure why they're replacing Blackarachnia's fangs with 'scoops'. The only reason would be that the designers are guys, and they wanted to see the TFA BA mold with more pronounced mommy-bags....


I don't get why this is a problem for you.. or anyone, I've heard the complaint before. Why? what are you expecting?


Better proportions. The manufacturers have proved that they CAN retool a design when they want to in order to improve aesthetics. They could have done something to narrow the hips a smidgen on the arcee mold, but they didn't, and once it's set in resin, they pretty much give up on fixing any flaws (which is why they won't fix Lockdown's hands for example).

Arcee's hips just look off to me. Back in the days of the Renaissance, that look was popular for women, as evidenced by a lot of the art. They preferred 'voluptuous' women (i.e., 'chubby'). And to be fair - some folks still like that look. I call it a flaw, because I don't like the look. To my eye, the hips just seem out of proportion with the rest of the body. The shins, the arms, the chest and head have a very narrow, athletic look to them, which is in keeping with how Arcee is usually drawn in the comics and such. But then, kablammo - the hips/thighs flare out all voluptuous and interrupt the aesthetics.

Again, that seems to be fine for most folks and they see no problem with it. Not so with me.
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Re: New Clear Images Of Transformers Legends LG15 Nightbird, LG16 Slipstream and LG17 Blackarachnia

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:34 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Do I need to bring up that close-up of a spider's pedipalps?

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Just imagine if THAT is what Blackarachnia's bust looked like. XD
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Re: New Clear Images Of Transformers Legends LG15 Nightbird, LG16 Slipstream and LG17 Blackarachnia

Postby Shockwave7 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:33 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Do I need to bring up that close-up of a spider's pedipalps?

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Well then, that really works. Never seen that kind of pic before, so yeah, it works! thanks! :BOT:


They find a species that has scoop shaped pedipalps instead of very obvious fangs, and go with that? It still looks like they're trying to make her a constructicon digger - or maybe a worker at Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream parlor.

Spiders need fangs to look fearsome, not scoops ;)
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Re: New Clear Images Of Transformers Legends LG15 Nightbird, LG16 Slipstream and LG17 Blackarachnia

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:36 pm

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Shockwave7 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Do I need to bring up that close-up of a spider's pedipalps?

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Well then, that really works. Never seen that kind of pic before, so yeah, it works! thanks! :BOT:


They find a species that has scoop shaped pedipalps instead of very obvious fangs, and go with that? It still looks like they're trying to make her a constructicon digger - or maybe a worker at Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream parlor.

Spiders need fangs to look fearsome, not scoops ;)


Still looks scary! :shock:
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Re: New Clear Images Of Transformers Legends LG15 Nightbird, LG16 Slipstream and LG17 Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:39 pm

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I never really looked into the original mold, but man! That is an unfortunate placing of the chest armor. Just saying, it's kinda funny really :BOT:



At least it looks hot in robot mode. :lol:

Can't wait to see the painted versions of these girls! :D


Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!
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Re: New Clear Images Of Transformers Legends LG15 Nightbird, LG16 Slipstream and LG17 Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:44 pm

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Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!

Hey, you aren't too far gone! Don't start feeling old yet!
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Re: New Clear Images Of Transformers Legends LG15 Nightbird, LG16 Slipstream and LG17 Blackarachnia

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:47 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!

Hey, you aren't too far gone! Don't start feeling old yet!
And it's perfectly acceptable to call a bot "hot". How many humans have fallen for a bot or a con in the 31 years? I personally find the new Arcee really attractive. Of course I may be biased: Her body type matches my girlfriends almost perfectly! :lol: :lol: :BOT:


Lol I'll make a topic about that. XD
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Re: New Clear Images Of Transformers Legends LG15 Nightbird, LG16 Slipstream and LG17 Blackarachnia

Postby Evil Eye » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:49 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!

Hey, you aren't too far gone! Don't start feeling old yet!
And it's perfectly acceptable to call a bot "hot". How many humans have fallen for a bot or a con in the 31 years? I personally find the new Arcee really attractive. Of course I may be biased: Her body type matches my girlfriends almost perfectly! :lol: :lol: :BOT:


Lol I'll make a topic about that. XD

Do link us, that sounds hilarious. :lol:
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Re: New Clear Images Of Transformers Legends LG15 Nightbird, LG16 Slipstream and LG17 Blackarachnia

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:51 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!

Hey, you aren't too far gone! Don't start feeling old yet!
And it's perfectly acceptable to call a bot "hot". How many humans have fallen for a bot or a con in the 31 years? I personally find the new Arcee really attractive. Of course I may be biased: Her body type matches my girlfriends almost perfectly! :lol: :lol: :BOT:


Lol I'll make a topic about that. XD

Do link us, that sounds hilarious. :lol:


Here it is!

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby munkimus prime » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:55 pm

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I'm not really in to Nightbird since she just a character from one episode of G1 so I have no attachment to that character. Slipstream and Blackarachnia are both definite purchases unless I only had enough to get one then that would be Blackarachnia since I've been wanting a new version of her for ages.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:40 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:They'll be neat when fully done, I think. But they have their flaws, no doubt about it.

Nightbird retains the problem of the Arcee mold, namely, her 'child birthing' hips.

Slipstream looks... very chipper for a fem Con.

And I'm not sure why they're replacing Blackarachnia's fangs with 'scoops'. The only reason would be that the designers are guys, and they wanted to see the TFA BA mold with more pronounced mommy-bags....


I don't get why this is a problem for you.. or anyone, I've heard the complaint before. Why? what are you expecting?


Better proportions. The manufacturers have proved that they CAN retool a design when they want to in order to improve aesthetics. They could have done something to narrow the hips a smidgen on the arcee mold, but they didn't, and once it's set in resin, they pretty much give up on fixing any flaws (which is why they won't fix Lockdown's hands for example).

Arcee's hips just look off to me. Back in the days of the Renaissance, that look was popular for women, as evidenced by a lot of the art. They preferred 'voluptuous' women (i.e., 'chubby'). And to be fair - some folks still like that look. I call it a flaw, because I don't like the look. To my eye, the hips just seem out of proportion with the rest of the body. The shins, the arms, the chest and head have a very narrow, athletic look to them, which is in keeping with how Arcee is usually drawn in the comics and such. But then, kablammo - the hips/thighs flare out all voluptuous and interrupt the aesthetics.

Again, that seems to be fine for most folks and they see no problem with it. Not so with me.


To each his/her own preference I guess. Some want big oppai while others petanko. ;)

2 points you raised. 1st, Tomy probably wanted to get more bang out of the mold without having to invest additional moolah to alter the basemold. Keeping the old order of "not breaking the bank".This seems to be the recent practice of TT. Conservative releasing of figures. Remember the Legend 3 fembots had such a limited release? Hb could probably offset cost with the T-cracker mold by selling him in mass quantities.

2nd, the birthing hips. I believe the inner thigh gives the mold an optical illusion at some angle of it looking very drumstick like (as in KFC drumstick). And, well imo it fits the mold perfectly. Try photoshoping a pic of her shaving off the thigh and compare. I bet it would damage the proportional visage.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

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Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy and Armada Megatron Package Images

Postby Va'al » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:14 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Heckfire » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:32 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby prjkt » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:03 am

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Heckfire wrote:Dammit, I HAVE the OTFCC Scourge, and I STILL want this guy.

CURSE YOU, OBSESSIVE URGE TO HAVE ALL NEMESIS PRIMES!!

This guy'll be my substitute for the TFCC version, (surprisingly) much cheaper

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:19 am

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Hey look, on the packaging and booklet. They're actually calling him "BLACK CONVOY" in English text instead of "Scourge". Previous Legends toys used the Hasbro names in English with the original Takara names in Japanese, but here, the original Takara name is used in both Japanese and English.

However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct :RENEGADE: Combatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:23 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Hey look, on the packaging. They're actually calling him "Black Convoy" in English text instead of "Scourge". Previous Legends toys used the Hasbro names in English with the original Takara names in Japanese, but here, the original Takara name is used in both Japanese and English.


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:31 am

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Sabrblade wrote:However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct :RENEGADE: Combatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.


Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:35 am

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Sabrblade wrote:However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct :RENEGADE: Combatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.


Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...
There's no "Predacons" in Car Robots either (only Cybertrons, Destrongers, and Combatrons), so nothing was stopping them from using "Decepticon" just as they used "Predacon". Besides, the insignia used is :RENEGADE: for "Combatron". The Destronger insignia was :PREDACON: , which was not used for this toy. So they could have easily gotten away with claiming that " :RENEGADE: = Decepticon"
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby ScottyP » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:40 am

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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:55 am

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Sabrblade wrote:However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct :RENEGADE: Combatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.


Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...
There's no "Predacons" in Car Robots either (only Cybertrons, Destrongers, and Combatrons), so nothing was stopping them from using "Decepticon" just as they used "Predacon". Besides, the insignia used is :RENEGADE: for "Combatron". The Destronger insignia was :PREDACON: , which was not used for this toy. So they could have easily gotten away with claiming that " :RENEGADE: = Decepticon"


Except that "Combatron" was treated more as a sub-group in the toyline: the box for CR Black Convoy still says "Destronger" on the side. And apparently because of the symbol used, they equated the Japanese Destronger with the US Predacons and therefore, through lack of an actual US name for the Combatron symbol (maybe Renegade?), they named Black Convoy (not Scourge) a Predacon too. Woops.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:56 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby megatronus » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:19 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
ScottyP wrote:I want to like that Armada Megatron, but I just don't. Something's way off about it in my mind's eye, even more so than the Hasbro one. The waist feels too purple, but it's also possible I'm not remembering the show model correctly.
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Yea, I'm not seeing the issue. I really like this darker, more brooding deco, but that's just me.
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