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[william-james88]

Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?

It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!

Its not that complex. You just insert the titanmaster as his small head and then a mask flips from his chest and goes over it. And you can then rotate it all.

It works pretty much like the old beetlejuice toys but this time the bigger face stays attached to the body and stored there.

[fenrir72]

NERDGASM! el Pollo locco Galvatron looks BOSS!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?

Its not that complex. You just insert the titanmaster as his small head and then a mask flips from his chest and goes over it. And you can then rotate it all.

Soundwave and Blaster have those helmets as well. It's a bit of a necessary evil as all the Titan Masters have to remain the same size for overall compatibility, and the larger the body (like the Leaders and some Voyagers) the smaller the head would look proportionally. Like the Beetlejuice above. It's either find a way to bulk them out, or design bigger Titan Masters.
The helmet trick has been done before, mind you, mostly with combiners. Two that come to mind are Energon Optimus Prime and PCC Skyhammer, and G1 Scorponok uses the very same cheat.

[King Kuuga]

Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?

It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!

It's a way to keep the titan masters uniformly sized and compatible with all size classes while still looking proportional on larger figures.

[fenrir72]

Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?

It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!

It's a way to keep the titan masters uniformly sized and compatible with all size classes while still looking proportional on larger figures.

It also hearkens to the days of the Headmaster Jr. Half head half cockpit.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Ole Galvatron did not look impressed with his new headmaster upgrade. did you see that face? Silent disapproval

[Va'al]

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[King Kuuga]

LG-30 was the mystery one, right? Kind of odd for it to just be Weirdwolf.

[SpikeyTigertron]

Did they remold Fort Max's feet?

[william-james88]

I guess this means that Takara isn't God afterall and didnt drastically remold fort max for him to be able to pull off his traditional city mode.

[Randomhero]

I guess this means that Takara isn't God afterall and didnt drastically remold fort max for him to be able to pull off his traditional city mode.

I don't see how you can without giving him entirely new legs. Those legs and knees would need to be entirely redone to do it and to do so many our either have to deal with the back of his legs or sizes being completely visibly hallow or have to deal with huge fold out panels hanging off in city mode. considering his new city mode is technically a version of fort Max's city mode they-like hasbro-probably thought it was good enough and personably I think it is even if you're just laying him down and giving him the splits. It does look better than metroplex's where he just sits down.

Pretty sure the only retooling Max is getting is a new Heasmasters cartoon/toy a crate head for his smaller robot

[Prowl4]

Wheelie and rewind being accompanied by headmasters is a bit odd. Maybe this is takaras way of selling the additional heads that hasbro are doing separately.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Wheelie and rewind being accompanied by headmasters is a bit odd. Maybe this is takaras way of selling the additional heads that hasbro are doing separately.

It seems so. Shockwave is coming with a head as well.

But at least they are getting Nightbeat and Siren's heads

[william-james88]

I guess this means that Takara isn't God afterall and didnt drastically remold fort max for him to be able to pull off his traditional city mode.

I don't see how you can without giving him entirely new legs. Those legs and knees would need to be entirely redone to do it and to do so many our either have to deal with the back of his legs or sizes being completely visibly hallow or have to deal with huge fold out panels hanging off in city mode. considering his new city mode is technically a version of fort Max's city mode they-like hasbro-probably thought it was good enough and personably I think it is even if you're just laying him down and giving him the splits. It does look better than metroplex's where he just sits down.

Pretty sure the only retooling Max is getting is a new Heasmasters cartoon/toy a crate head for his smaller robot

Yeah, I never thought it was possible either. I was just confirming what I believe most of us knew deep down, that Takara couldnt fix whatever people dont like anout this line. Galvatron is still a headmaster with the same gimick and Fort Max' city mode still doesn't look like a city. I love Takara, but I dont think any of us should have expected the amount of retooling needed (which you describe perfectly) to make it so different.

[Randomhero]

I never believed once they'd retool Galvatron because I don't it could be done without competely redesigning and reengineering the entire torso. I remember saying that over 6 months when people in here were throwing a huge fit saying. "Takara will fix it. They don't want characters who were not original headmaster to be headmasters."

Well...they didn't. I never thought for one second they would because it would be too much of a hassle and Takara likes gimmicks as much as hasbro.

I don't have any issues with none headmaster characters joining in on it because it's a total choice to buy them.

If I have had to complain about anything it'd be that we're getting extremely accurate characters with the gimmick. I like the drift retool of Blurr but I would have liked the new Blurr without the gimmick 6 years ago. Same with scourge. The original classics scourge is great but your can't argue him turning into his old bathtub alt mode. That being said in totally going to buy 4 scourge figures to have an army of man operated sweeps because that's awesome to me. Just wish the masters hands weren't hanging off his head.

[Autobot N]

Just wish the masters hands weren't hanging off his head.

Solution:
See this Titanmaster?

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If you notice, it has a screw in its body. Unscrew that, take the arms and legs off, and screw it back in, and you have a better proportioned Scourge head.

[Randomhero]

Just wish the masters hands weren't hanging off his head.

Solution:
See this Titanmaster?

Fracas.jpg

If you notice, it has a screw in its body. Unscrew that, take the arms and legs off, and screw it back in, and you have a better proportioned Scourge head.

That's a good idea IF the arms are one piece but I think they're ball joints. I think that screw if for the sake of both front and back halves to stay together. If they're ball joints than you're just giving Scoruge Frankenstein bolts on his head

[StarFireMk4]

Sticking with Hasbro Weirdwolf on this one.

[Railbomb]

Is it just me or does it look like the pic of Fort Max they're using seem to be an early prototype before the got the Metroplex parts cast in new colors?

[Wolfman Jake]

Sticking with Hasbro Weirdwolf on this one.

Hasbro's Weirdwolf indeed looks great already, but I'll wait to see what Takara does with the deco, which I imagine is realistically not much, because, again, Hasbro's is already pretty spot-on. The bonus with Takara, though, will be the deco-matched weapon-vehicle accessory for Monzo to ride around in.

[Mr O]

Will it be Nightbeat or Minerva?

[Sabrblade]

Will it be Nightbeat or Minerva?

It's Nightbeat. While the others are Goshooter, Cancer, and Bullhorn.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

LG-30 was the mystery one, right? Kind of odd for it to just be Weirdwolf.

I guess we'll have to wait a bit longer for Super Ginrai

Unlike the others, Weirdwolf will keep the US name for Japan, and not have it shortened like "Skull" (Skullcruncher) or "Wipe" (Mindwipe) like in G1. And wait a minute! That vehicle he comes with? It's Apeface's vehicle!

[william-james88]

LG-30 was the mystery one, right? Kind of odd for it to just be Weirdwolf.

I guess we'll have to wait a bit longer for Super Ginrai

Unlike the others, Weirdwolf will keep the US name for Japan, and not have it shortened like "Skull" (Skullcruncher) or "Wipe" (Mindwipe) like in G1. And wait a minute! That vehicle he comes with? It's Apeface's vehicle!

Yup, and now we know it alsohas a gun mode (which isnt great).

[Hellscream9999]

That vehicle he comes with? It's Apeface's vehicle!

Yup, and now we know it alsohas a gun mode (which isnt great).

All Titanmaster vehicles have a weapon mode, hasbro just hasn't shown them off at all, so we have to wait for TT to do that