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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:03 am

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But they still released the mold. That example doesn't exactly hold up to the other examples you mentioned since it was released in a way.

But by the logic you present, that means they could release brainstorm as another character with a different colour. Takara not releasing the Groove legends deco is a hint that they dont like releasing the same character in the legends line and they already released a Legends Brainstorm. So my example is very apt. So going by what you have stated, if Takara releases the Brainstorm retool then it would be as a different character.


That's not what I said at all but if you want to take this route than the override/groove comparison isn't indicative of anything regarding the legends line since override was released under TAV and deluxe groove was released under unite warriors. Takara has already released characters twice under the legends line like rat trap and rhinox but they use them as exclusives. So they very well could just use the brain storm tooling but as an exclusive instead.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

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It's extremely hard to believe they won't do Brainstorm. I guess anything's possible, but it's also possible that they'll cancel all production on Transformers movies after Last Knight. There's just some things that are easy to count on.
Hell, even if they don't release Brainstorm... I can see them making a new mold for Brainstorm. I know it sounds crazy, but so far all the new molds they've made - Blast Off, Groove - have been for the sake of completing a set. So if they somehow don't get their hands on that Brainstorm, they'll sure as hell make their own because there's no way they're making a line of the Headmasters and missing Brainstorm. It's like ordering a Pizza, Garlic Bread and a bottle of Coke but they ran out of Garlic Bread and don't charge you for it. You're happy with what you got, yeah, but there's something very significant missing.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:09 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:That's not what I said at all but if you want to take this route than the override/groove comparison isn't indicative of anything regarding the legends line since override was released under TAV and deluxe groove was released under unite warriors. Takara has already released characters twice under the legends line like rat trap and rhinox but they use them as exclusives. So they very well could just use the brain storm tooling but as an exclusive instead.

Your right and I can totally see that and I agree. But that still means everyone is back where we started off since Brainstorm is not part of Hasbro's standard schedule and so far Takara is following that schedule quite closely. An exclusve makes sense, but what is the most any of you would pay for a deluxe Brainstorm from Takara? Because Rattrap and co were 40$ back when the exchange was in our favor.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:14 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:That's not what I said at all but if you want to take this route than the override/groove comparison isn't indicative of anything regarding the legends line since override was released under TAV and deluxe groove was released under unite warriors. Takara has already released characters twice under the legends line like rat trap and rhinox but they use them as exclusives. So they very well could just use the brain storm tooling but as an exclusive instead.

Your right and I can totally see that and I agree. But that still means everyone is back where we started off since Brainstorm is not part of Hasbro's standard schedule and so far Takara is following that schedule quite closely. An exclusve makes sense, but what is the most any of you would pay for a deluxe Brainstorm from Takara? Because Rattrap and co were 40$ back when the exchange was in our favor.

I still think they can release him as a standard release. Just because the legends line hasn't released the same character twice (outside exclusives) doesn't mean they can't. Only time will tell though
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:16 am

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Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:33 am

william-james88 wrote:Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?



I'm going hasbro. I've never had issues with how they do stuff the cost is cheaper for me. Even buying from a straight Japanese vendor doesn't make it cheaper for me most of the time and I don't mind just checking out a couple walmarts and targets on my days off.

Personally I don't demand and need cartoon accuracy, just having the character is good enough for me. Now when it came to the femcons, I bought those and Ultra Magnus and skids because they were gorgeous and I had a little extra cash to toss at an import.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:36 am

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william-james88 wrote:Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?

I'm going hasbro. I've never had issues with how they do stuff the cost is cheaper for me. Even buying from a straight Japanese vendor doesn't make it cheaper for me most of the time and I don't mind just checking out a couple walmarts and targets on my days off.

We are of the same mind ;)^
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby SeventhSage » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:01 am

Love their Headmaster style heads! So lookin forward to these guys!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:02 am

I get it, some people want the most accurate version of the characters they love. im just glad to get classics themed characters 10 years after they started because after all, it was just a filler toy line before the movie toys came out and now CHUG is the headliner for transformers which is insane that it is.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby leokearon » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:11 am

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william-james88 wrote:Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?


I wasn't planning on buying any of the Takara Deluxes, I prefer the Hasbro heads and it would prefer to have the Titan Masters Vehicles with their Titan masters
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:15 am

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leokearon wrote:I wasn't planning on buying any of the Takara Deluxes, I prefer the Hasbro heads and it would prefer to have the Titan Masters Vehicles with their Titan masters

Yeah thats a huge bummer for me too. I mean they are meant to interact so you cant actually have a complete mini dinosaur without your robot losing his head.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby xMXUx » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:19 am

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I'll decide which version to get once they go up on AE. I think the exchange rate for the Yen is still better than the one for the Pound, at least for me.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:28 am

For sure Takara's Brainstorm will have a mouth.

And you know what would be a cool accessory for him instead of another drone? A Rebirth-accurate head sculpt! Give us both options, like with MP-33 Inferno.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby durroth » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:18 am

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I'm going to need 3 chromedomes. one for the takara head, one for the hasbro head, and one takara to somehow swap out the robot part of the hasbro head for the much better paint apps on takara's head.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:39 am

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Chromedome looks good. Painted hubcaps are always nice. The little drill buggy is cool too.

Highbrow doesn't look that different from his Hasbro counterpart but I'll reserve judgement for now.

Mindwipe is never gonna look good regardless of the deco. Sorry, but I'm going FP for him. (Or getting the old ROTF figure, that thing is awesome).
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby EvilOmar » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:59 am

Cannot wait for these Headmasters to drop. I've been excited since Toy Fair and Botcon. We talk about the state of Transformer toys in our latest episode of our youtube show:

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:13 pm

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So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?

*EDIT* For those curious, the vehicles included come from these Titan Master Class (not Legends Class) releases: Nightbeat, Loudmouth and Crashbash (again), completing that list as well.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:17 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?

Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:32 pm

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Kurona wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?

Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.

I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:36 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?

Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.

I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.


I thought Astrotrain was the retool of Sentinel... Ugh, pretools drive me batty!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:49 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?

Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.

I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.


I thought Astrotrain was the retool of Sentinel... Ugh, pretools drive me batty!



They probably won't make a sentinel due to him and astrotrain sharing molds but also the fact he has no history in Japan. Like I said before Japan is super picky about what they'll make and release. It's baffling they did grand galvatron and Lynx Master.

I don't even think they'll do Alpha Trion. I see them using that mold for Lio Convoy before they use it for Alpha Trion. Not because he doesn't have history hit because the body doesn't looked like alpha Trion. They wouldn't do minimus Ambus, they painted him as Alpha and made up some weird story about him joyriding inside Magnus.

Japan is weird...
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:49 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?

Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.

I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.


I thought Astrotrain was the retool of Sentinel... Ugh, pretools drive me batty!

There are 0 retooled parts. A new head, sure, but thats no longer a part of the body like before, its a seperate robot.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:55 pm

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Randomhero wrote:I don't even think they'll do Alpha Trion. I see them using that mold for Lio Convoy before they use it for Alpha Trion. Not because he doesn't have history hit because the body doesn't looked like alpha Trion. They wouldn't do minimus Ambus, they painted him as Alpha and made up some weird story about him joyriding inside Magnus.

Japan is weird...

Another Lio Prime would be dull though. They did that last time Hasbro released a lion TF.

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And that body and head looked nothing like Leo Prime. So yeah Japan is weird.
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Postby Kurona » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:01 pm

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I'm honestly surprised Hasbro redecoed Leobreaker into Leo Prime before Japan got the chance. Takara always seems to have a massive hard-on for Lio Convoy and Star Saber... which is why I could see them turning Alpha Trion into him.
But hey, at least it'd be something different instead of just the same toy with a little extra paint.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:05 pm

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Kurona wrote:I'm honestly surprised Hasbro redecoed Leobreaker into Leo Prime before Japan got the chance. Takara always seems to have a massive hard-on for Lio Convoy and Star Saber... which is why I could see them turning Alpha Trion into him.
But hey, at least it'd be something different instead of just the same toy with a little extra paint.

Bu that means japanese fans wont get a release of Alpha Trion and will be stuck importing.
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