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[william-james88]

I'm hoping it's significant that Kup and Hot Rod's titles include the term Target Master.

Not to be a downer, but it isnt. As you can see from waht I posted above, they are the same price as all the other "targetmasers" Takara released. They just put that name because Kup and Hot Rod were targetmasters in G1 and now once again come with a transforming gun accessory.

Nope - they were targetmasters here, but never in Japan. And it's very odd that they get the Targetmaster prefix but not Scourge or Blurr if they were for some reason going for an American reference; and also odd that the Headmasters didn't get a prefix that called them Headmasters. It's odd either way.

Not odd at all.
Scourge and blurr didnt get the prefix because they didnt come with an additional transforming weapon, unlike every other deluxe toy.

[Kurona]

I'm hoping it's significant that Kup and Hot Rod's titles include the term Target Master.

Not to be a downer, but it isnt. As you can see from waht I posted above, they are the same price as all the other "targetmasers" Takara released. They just put that name because Kup and Hot Rod were targetmasters in G1 and now once again come with a transforming gun accessory.

Nope - they were targetmasters here, but never in Japan. And it's very odd that they get the Targetmaster prefix but not Scourge or Blurr if they were for some reason going for an American reference; and also odd that the Headmasters didn't get a prefix that called them Headmasters. It's odd either way.

Not odd at all.
Scourge and blurr didnt get the prefix because they didnt come with an additional transforming weapon, unlike every other deluxe toy.

Which itself is odd - why didn't they come with a transforming weapon, unlike Hot Rod and Kup?

[william-james88]

I'm hoping it's significant that Kup and Hot Rod's titles include the term Target Master.

Not to be a downer, but it isnt. As you can see from waht I posted above, they are the same price as all the other "targetmasers" Takara released. They just put that name because Kup and Hot Rod were targetmasters in G1 and now once again come with a transforming gun accessory.

Nope - they were targetmasters here, but never in Japan. And it's very odd that they get the Targetmaster prefix but not Scourge or Blurr if they were for some reason going for an American reference; and also odd that the Headmasters didn't get a prefix that called them Headmasters. It's odd either way.

Not odd at all.
Scourge and blurr didnt get the prefix because they didnt come with an additional transforming weapon, unlike every other deluxe toy.

Which itself is odd - why didn't they come with a transforming weapon, unlike Hot Rod and Kup?

Because they were still part of the old price point, being the first figures released.it was a transition phase. Now that its established that de luxes come with titan master vehicles, thats how they wil all come out.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'm hoping it's significant that Kup and Hot Rod's titles include the term Target Master.

Not to be a downer, but it isnt. As you can see from waht I posted above, they are the same price as all the other "targetmasers" Takara released. They just put that name because Kup and Hot Rod were targetmasters in G1 and now once again come with a transforming gun accessory.

Nope - they were targetmasters here, but never in Japan. And it's very odd that they get the Targetmaster prefix but not Scourge or Blurr if they were for some reason going for an American reference; and also odd that the Headmasters didn't get a prefix that called them Headmasters. It's odd either way.

Not odd at all.
Scourge and blurr didnt get the prefix because they didnt come with an additional transforming weapon, unlike every other deluxe toy.

Which itself is odd - why didn't they come with a transforming weapon, unlike Hot Rod and Kup?

Because they were still part of the old price point, being the first figures released.it was a transition phase. Now that its established that de luxes come with titan master vehicles, thats how they wil all come out.

The first figures released in the Headmasters portion were LG21 Hardhead and LG22 Skull. Blurr and Scourge come in as LG25 and LG26, and note they never have been "-masters" in the Japanese G1 Continuity. Hot Rod and Kup were released as Targetmasters in the Transformers Collection line of reissues, a first for Japan.

[william-james88]

Thanks Jelze, so that confirms it. Kup and Hot Rod do have reasons to be targetmasters in Japan when Blurr and Scourge wouldnt be

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Thanks Jelze, so that confirms it. Kup and Hot Rod do have reasons to be targetmasters in Japan when Blurr and Scourge wouldnt be

Yup, the Targetmasters even kept their names: Recoil and Firebolt, and the latter poses a tiny problem. Expect a cameo of a certain Aerialbot should the names be reused.

[chuckdawg1999]

Wait!

.....40 bucks for Kup?


Keep it!

Thrilling 30 Sgt. Kup as main Kup it is then....

I'll likely buy 2 more Sharkticon's but it'll be for $20 total not $40!

Why are you surprised, thats how much BBTS priced all the legends toys partnered with "titanmasers" :




Brainstorm was even $45. Why would anyone expect toys in the same series would suddenly be cheaper? If you want to pay the real price, just import it yourself.

Brainstorm was an exclusive of some sort, that's why the figure was more expensive.

[william-james88]

Brainstorm was an exclusive of some sort, that's why the figure was more expensive.

Not in japan.

But if you read he was, could you please give a link to that info?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Brainstorm was an exclusive of some sort, that's why the figure was more expensive.

Nah, BBTS was probably playing on his desirability because the US one was a Walgreens exclusive, a chain that can be very hard to find depending on where in the US you were. He is supposedly general retail in Europe, which adds insult to injury.

:EDIT: Making context a tad clearer.

[Kurona]

Brainstorm was an exclusive of some sort, that's why the figure was more expensive.

Not in japan.

But if you read he was, could you please give a link to that info?

Nah, BBTS was probably playing on his desirability because the US one was a Walgreens exclusive, a chain that can be very hard to find depending on where in the US you were. He is supposedly general retail in Europe, which adds salt to injury.

Our 'general retail' is equivalent to your exclusive in more ways than just that, trust me.

[Sabrblade]

Thanks Jelze, so that confirms it. Kup and Hot Rod do have reasons to be targetmasters in Japan when Blurr and Scourge wouldnt be

Although, the two of them received no Japanese fiction their being Targetmasters, aside from their bios, but which didn't say much:

C-110 Hot Rodimus

The young Cybertron warrior dreams of becoming a hero, and one day holding an important position. Seeks thrills with his partner Firebolt, who remains insecure of his future, which is expected.

C-113 Chear

Chear is a brave veteran soldier who has great knowledge and experience.

So we've yet to learn the context of their becoming Targetmasters in Japanese continuity. But I guess this means Sakamoto gets the first chance to give the this context.

Yup, the Targetmasters even kept their names: Recoil and Firebolt, and the latter poses a tiny problem. Expect a cameo of a certain Aerialbot should the names be reused.

That's only if the Partner Drones end up being Recoil and Firebolt.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Yup, the Targetmasters even kept their names: Recoil and Firebolt, and the latter poses a tiny problem. Expect a cameo of a certain Aerialbot should the names be reused.

That's only if the Partner Drones end up being Recoil and Firebolt.

I dunno, Legends has done many a weird thing, naming the Headmaster partners as such would be a drop in the ocean.

[Emerje]

Actually taking a moment to look, the only Decepticon TM left is Fangry (and maybe Skytread, he was in the six pack). I suppose if they do Kickback he'd come with Wilder then, unless they finally decide to do Rumble.

Emerje

They could always redeco Ptero as Terrorsaur...

How would they even explain that? Terrorsaur is already a character in the Legends universe, he wouldn't suddenly become a head I would think. But then again stranger things have happened (Lio Convoy becoming Leo Prime's body).

Emerje

[Sabrblade]

Actually taking a moment to look, the only Decepticon TM left is Fangry (and maybe Skytread, he was in the six pack). I suppose if they do Kickback he'd come with Wilder then, unless they finally decide to do Rumble.

Emerje

They could always redeco Ptero as Terrorsaur...

How would they even explain that? Terrorsaur is already a character in the Legends universe,

A strange case of Transformer Sickness?

[ScottyP]

Via Takara Tomy Mall, we have our first look at official images of the upcoming Legends series releases LG-44 Sharkticon with Sweep, LG-45 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus, and LG-46 Targetmaster Char (better known as Kup to the Western world). These are set for release in September to help you build your ranks of Sharkticons, or relive memories of 1987 and your old Targetmaster Hot Rod with Firebolt or Targetmaster Kup with Recoil. We've mirrored the images from Takara Tomy Mall below for you to enjoy.





























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[Kurona]

Hot Rod what did they do to you... and why is Kup grey...?

THOSE NEW TARGETMASTERS THO. MMMMM.

[Sigma Magnus]

...well.

...guess I'll be getting both versions then.

Oh Primus, what are they gonna do to Triggerhappy?!

[ScottyP]

Hot Rod what did they do to you...

Made him edgy

[Randomhero]

...well.

...guess I'll be getting both versions then.

Oh Primus, what are they gonna do to Triggerhappy?!

Yeah...same here. He's not magenta but he still looks good. Also it looks like hiding the engine doesn't push his chest in all the way.maybe it's just the angle

Edit: oh they completely reboot led his chest losing the waist detail. That's...kinda lame. Well I got 5 months to decide I guess.

[Bronzewolf]

Okay, so Tak Kup blows Hasbro kup out of the water. That mold looks and works so much better here. However, why the hell can't we just get a blue Kup, with a blue head, that actually looks like Kup?! After saying no to the previous generations one, and banking on this, I'm fairly disappointed.

[Terrsolpix]

I find it ironic that that Rodimus was the last wave 3 deluxe I got, and after all the searching, he shows up on troves in stores and now Takara has a target master version....... why must everything good be available this month?!?!? I seriously can't get anything else after the chaos on velocitron box.'

[Randomhero]

Okay, so Tak Kup blows Hasbro kup out of the water. That mold looks and works so much better here. However, why the hell can't we just get a blue Kup, with a blue head, that actually looks like Kup?! After saying no to the previous generations one, and banking on this, I'm fairly disappointed.

It certainly is an odd choice. On the bright side he has an all new head and arms.

[steals_your_goats]

Oh wow these are gorgeous. Kup has retooled arms along with the face. Love the little Warrio stache on the sweep head. Those targetmasters are really cool too. Now I just have to decide what to do with my Hasbro hotrod.

[Cyber Bishop]

I may get them just for the targetmasters..

[Randomhero]

Maybe?

I mean he did show up grey in some episodes.