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News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:45 am

In case anyone wants the BBTS link for Dai Atlas, sorry Big Powered, here it is.

by **Acolyte** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:01 am

Um, 1500 yen is around $14, not $140. Unless you left off a zero?

william-james88 wrote:For those wondering, 1500 Yen for this LGEX toy means BBTS and others will price it at around $150 USD or slightly higher

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:27 am

Agamemnon wrote:In case anyone wants the BBTS link for Dai Atlas, sorry Big Powered, here it is.

Nice. $160, I guess I'll have to see how things turn out next tax season. I'm not going to pre-order this unless I see the potential of it selling out quickly. There are still plenty of LGEX Grand Max, Metroplex, and Greatshot that are still all on my want list as well, but are quite plentifully in stock at BBTS.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:34 am

Not a bad price for these, though I wonder if kapow will get a few in,given that they had managed to snag a few lgex items previously.

News Credits: 4498 · by **william-james88** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:56 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Not a bad price for these, though I wonder if kapow will get a few in,given that they had managed to snag a few lgex items previously.

Its cheaper than past LGEX toys.

Past LGEX toys have been at these prices (from importers):

Deluxe: $40

Voyager: $60

Leader: $80-$95

So 2 deluxes and a leader could have easily been $175. I am glad its not.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:00 am

william-james88 wrote:Past LGEX toys have been at these prices (from importers):

Deluxe: $40

Voyager: $60

Leader: $80-$95

So 2 deluxes and a leader could have easily been $175. I am glad its not.

Exactly.

News Credits: 4498 · by **william-james88** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:56 am

Both site sponsors BBTS and TF Source now have this set available for preorder for $159.99 USD.

Here are the listings:

BBTS: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ails/81630
TF Source: https://tfsource.com/legends-series/lg-ex-big-powered/

Since thes are LG-Ex figures, they will not be available from Japanese retailers like HLJ or Amazon Japan.

This set comprises of Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber and Roadfire, which are all very heavy retools of the Skyshadow, Misfire and Twin Twist figures released last year. How heavy? Well, we laid out some images below for you tom compare between the original mold and the new toys we are getting. You will also see what the original G1 toys looked like, to see how faithful (or not) these new designs are to them. You can compare between robot modes, alt modes and even base modes. Most G1 images come from this blog post by fellow Seibertronian Scotty P.

Sonic Bomber

Roadfire

Dai Atlas

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:09 am

I think many fans, including myself, saw the potential easily in retooling the Overlord/Skyshadow toy into Dai Atlus. However the work done with the other two bots to give us a fully functioning updated version of Big Powered is really amazing.

by **KVO Prime** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:11 am

I just preordered this without hesitation from BBTS. I f**king love headmasters and this is just glorious. I was kind of hoping they would redo all the bots into headmasters, the way they were going with Titans Return... Oh wells, we got some great ones!

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:16 am

Do Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, and Roadfire not have removable heads? I assumed they would have to from an engineering perspective? It really doesn't matter either way, but I just figured they would have to be, based on their source.

News Credits: 4 · by **Relic0037** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:25 am

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Part of me is hoping for a Violen Jiger toy... Wonder what figure could be remolded into him?

Not sure how they would pull that one off. Plus making an Autobot leader doesn't guarantee we will get his Decepticon counterpart. My Masterpiece Star Saber is still waiting for a proper Dezarus (I'm not counting that awful Sky Lynx repaint) to do battle with & Fort Max & Grand Max really need Scorponok & Black Zarak to go on shelves next to them.

As long as it took to get A new Trypticon, I think we can expect to wait much longer for a Violen Jiger. But I would be glad to be wrong on that one.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:30 am

o.supreme wrote:Do Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, and Roadfire not have removable heads? I assumed they would have to from an engineering perspective? It really doesn't matter either way, but I just figured they would have to be, based on their source.

Earlier in the thread it was confirmed that they were headmasters.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:33 am

^The closest thing, without making a completely new toy would be that awful Alpha Q toy from Transformers Energon, and we definitely don't need to see that again. Some 3P company might come up with something interesting. Besides, since the Zone Manga isn't available in English, I don't know if Violenjiger was ever fully shown beyond his nebulous 3 faced form.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:36 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Earlier in the thread it was confirmed that they were headmasters.

Thanks, that's what I thought, it was just form KVO prime's post, it sounded like they may not be

News Credits: 2 · by **Rodimus Knight** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:36 am

I want to know how well put together the combined mode is.
The decepticon power master brothers, their combine vehicle mode was a horrible joke in the last line.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:38 am

Got my pre-order in. If it's anything like Greatshot I'll find a US seller on eBay with the set in hand before BBTS gets it in.

News Credits: 4498 · by **william-james88** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:02 pm

o.supreme wrote:Do Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, and Roadfire not have removable heads? I assumed they would have to from an engineering perspective? It really doesn't matter either way, but I just figured they would have to be, based on their source.

There have been pictures of the heads. You can see them here

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... der/42210/

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:07 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pics are up of the whole package, robot mode and vehicle mode. And what do I do?! Look at the Headmasters, and they're not based on their Micromaster partners it looks like
You do know why that is, yes?

I do not
The little guys are the characters' real selves in Japan, not separate-character partners. In this case, Dai Atlas and co. are the small guys while the larger ones are just lifeless bodies they control.

It wouldn't make sense for the little guys to look like Speeder, Sonic, and Drillbuster when they're supposed to be Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, and Roadfire themselves.

Didn't stop the Decepticon Targetmasters from looking like Blowpipe

by **Skritz** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:27 pm

"Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. MINE! MINE! MINE!!" /Dragon Ball Z Abridged Vegeta

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:39 pm

For anyone from Australia that may be after this set ...

Toybot Importz will be stocking it.
https://www.toybotimportz.com.au/collec ... ig-powered

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:51 pm

Burn wrote:For anyone from Australia that may be after this set ...

Toybot Importz will be stocking it.
https://www.toybotimportz.com.au/collec ... ig-powered

Does this mean you will, in fact, be picking up this set, Burn?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:27 pm

Pre-ordered so hard! I cannot wait to get this set, it is full on amazing, I can't believ how far they went to make thi set, they're all basically new figures now :shock:

by **Skritz** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:31 pm

I have but one criticism on this set which, otherwise, will be a goddamn LANDMARK in terms of CHUG releases: I really, really wish they had found a way to integrate even the crudest of waist joint on Dai Atlas as the lack of a waist joint is the only crippling weakness on the Sky Shadow/Overlord mold.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:34 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Burn wrote:For anyone from Australia that may be after this set ...

Toybot Importz will be stocking it.
https://www.toybotimportz.com.au/collec ... ig-powered

Does this mean you will, in fact, be picking up this set, Burn?

I'm holding out for a different supplier.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:02 pm

o.supreme wrote:^The closest thing, without making a completely new toy would be that awful Alpha Q toy from Transformers Energon, and we definitely don't need to see that again. Some 3P company might come up with something interesting. Besides, since the Zone Manga isn't available in English, I don't know if Violenjiger was ever fully shown beyond his nebulous 3 faced form.

Both the Zone manga and story pages have been available in English for about a decade, translated by Hydra and originally hosted at TF Pulp, but now hosted on Allspark.com:

Foreword by Kaneda Masumi
Zone Story Pages #1
Zone Story Pages #2
Zone Story Pages #3
Zone manga chapter
Zone Story Pages #4
Zone Story Pages #5
Zone Story Pages #6
Zone Story Pages #7
Zone Story Pages #8
Zone Story Pages #9
Zone Story Pages #10
Zone Story Pages #11
Zone Story Pages #12

Also available on TFArchive are the two Zone catalog stories, with English-translated descriptions for each, translated by DrSpengler. Though, while the first one takes place at the very beginning of Zone before all of the above content, the second one is kinda overridden by both the Zone episode and manga chapter, as it presents an abridged alternate take on the events of the episode/manga chapter:

Zone catalog story 1
Zone catalog story 2