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[Deadput]

I don't want to live on this planet anymore. It doesn't end! If this is true, you should put the expectation that Bay will still be directing Transformers in the next 1000 years. His clones or cyborg self...whatever. There is a point of no return, and I think we passed it with TF sadly. TF has jumped the shark everybody!

Sigh...what depressing news. ( I know even if it's a rumor, we all know it's going to be true. I may not like his movies, but I think Bay isn't stupid, he's not going to walk away from a chance to make millions)

Something like this makes want to die?



I'm sorry but there is more to life then fictional robots from your childhood that most of the time other people don't care about.



(Most people don't care about other peoples childhoods and not just for Transformers just other childhoods in general because were a horrible species)

[Sabrblade]

Something like this makes want to die?

Or move to a another planet.

Frankly I'd prefer a space colony since that sounds cooler to me, but that's just me. He can go to whatever planet he wants.

[Burn]

Something like this makes want to die?

Or move to a another planet.

Frankly I'd prefer a space colony since that sounds cooler to me, but that's just me. He can go to whatever planet he wants.

Doesn't matter where you go, you're bound to pick up a stray transmission and next thing you know you're watching a Bay TF movie.

Alternatively, people could stop clicking on movie related news, ignore the movie related sub-forum, and ignore the movies when they come out in theatres and then on DVD/Blu-Ray.

[budmaloney]

I don't want to live on this planet anymore. It doesn't end! If this is true, you should put the expectation that Bay will still be directing Transformers in the next 1000 years. His clones or cyborg self...whatever. There is a point of no return, and I think we passed it with TF sadly. TF has jumped the shark everybody!

Sigh...what depressing news. ( I know even if it's a rumor, we all know it's going to be true. I may not like his movies, but I think Bay isn't stupid, he's not going to walk away from a chance to make millions)

Something like this makes want to die?



I'm sorry but there is more to life then fictional robots from your childhood that most of the time other people don't care about.



(Most people don't care about other peoples childhoods and not just for Transformers just other childhoods in general because were a horrible species)

sorry I meant to allude to the Professor Farnsworth meme from Futurama. Not literally thankfully . Though your point is fair. But I'm not actually concerned about Bay because he "ruined my childhood" as many like to say. I think my childhood is always there, you can always open G1 or whatever cartoon/ memories. And it's fair to expect that Bayformers have contributed to other people's childhoods perhaps even more so than mine. My gripe with Bay really stems from bad movies and scripts. The loss of potential is what makes me want to move to another planet ..or colony. With 200 million dollars as a budget, surely we should get better movies by now.

[Twitchythe3rd]

Would anyone be surprised by Bay returning at this point?

[Burn]

>:oP

Please actually contribute to the discussion.

[jay5]

I heard in this one Scrapper has elbows.

[Sabrblade]

I heard in this one Scrapper has elbows.

Scrapper's in the next movie?

[Hip-Hoptimus Rime]

Just saw this article, dated today:

http://masterherald.com/transformers-5- ... ion/22220/

Take it for what it is, just a collection of rumors and factoids at this early stage. I know nothing about that website, just stumbled across the article. FWIW.

[SlyTF1]

Just saw this article, dated today:

http://masterherald.com/transformers-5- ... ion/22220/

Take it for what it is, just a collection of rumors and factoids at this early stage. I know nothing about that website, just stumbled across the article. FWIW.

Saw this same article on another site months ago. It's not really saying anything new, and the fact that it says Megan Fox was removed from the cast in the 4th movie shows what the people who wrote it know.

[Prime Riblet]

Something like this makes want to die?

Or move to a another planet.

Frankly I'd prefer a space colony since that sounds cooler to me, but that's just me. He can go to whatever planet he wants.

Doesn't matter where you go, you're bound to pick up a stray transmission and next thing you know you're watching a Bay TF movie.

Alternatively, people could stop clicking on movie related news, ignore the movie related sub-forum, and ignore the movies when they come out in theatres and then on DVD/Blu-Ray.

Exactly!

Personal choice can be a powerful thing!

[Madeus Prime]

Something like this makes want to die?

Or move to a another planet.

Frankly I'd prefer a space colony since that sounds cooler to me, but that's just me. He can go to whatever planet he wants.

Doesn't matter where you go, you're bound to pick up a stray transmission and next thing you know you're watching a Bay TF movie.

Alternatively, people could stop clicking on movie related news, ignore the movie related sub-forum, and ignore the movies when they come out in theatres and then on DVD/Blu-Ray.

Exactly!

Personal choice can be a powerful thing!

Exactly, I haven't even watched AoE since I saw it in theaters, and it's free on Amazon Prime!

Heck, the only reason I saw it in theaters was because I lived in hope that the new actors would've put their foot down on Bay's directing style, or at least would've played the roles better. Boy was I disappointed.

[Burn]

Can we not have this thread turn into another "ERMAGHERD THE BAY MOVEIS ARE THE SUXXOR!!111!!!" thread please?

Keep it strictly to rumours, go find one of the thousands of other threads out there to complain or praise the previously released movies.

[RAR]

RE : The Transformers in space Rumours....

Modern (SciFi/Comic book) Movies seem to have a tendency to reference something from a comic or other source in some way and then at the same time drastically change things : sometimes those changes are not actually wrong just a little unusual and people sometimes think they are some kind of mistake when they are not.

Examples being the more soft skinned Thing in the previous FF4 Movies and Yellow Jacket being a Villain in Ant Man neither are "wrong" they are just unusual to a casual fan.

At one point fewer member of a casual audience would have been familar with the Black Spider-man costume - but now I think that is a lot more recognisable these days.

Change isn't always a bad thing - like making Batman's costume tones much darker in movies for example.

The concern I have with Transformers Movies is they like to throw references at them that they themselves barely understand or ones that perhaps many didn't even want in the 1st place.

If you were making a list of Transformers you wanted to see in a live Action Movie I can't see Sentinel Prime or Crosshairs being in very many people's top tens for example.

I just wonder if they were to say for example use Quintessons would they be odd creatures indeed - would people even be happy to see the consumer electronics/ Military & security themes of the cartoon in live action form or are those ideas as old hat now as "Lasercores" (instead of Sparks).

I don't object to some version of a Quintesson origin - I just wonder if they have the sensitivity to handle it well in live action form.

If you turn them into tentacle creatures they could be flippin' terrifying. but they'd also be unable to be the sort of character to sustain much dialogue (I wonder if they regret removing Lockdown now as he'd have been good to keep around as a go between).

I foresee if they do go that route of "Transformers in Space" in a little bit - and they do use Quintessons then it will be tricky as heck to get right. (well it's a Live action movie so they won't get it right) so instead I will hope that then embarrass themselves as little as possible when striving for the lowest common denominator again.

I would rather have something like a Movie version of Sky Lynx used as Comic relief than some human "unfunny" comedian though.

I have heard rumours of the series moving towards a space theme and eventually Unicron - but I hope they don't try to do that to quickly - best to leave people hanging a bit on that like Marvel does with Thanos.

As to the idea of where to get Movie rumours from I have found this account on Twitter useful at times in the past : @TFLAMB

Or the related website :

http://transformerslive.blogspot.co.uk/ ... um=twitter

[NiteStar]

There are probably threads already but thought I'd share anyway.

Source:Yahoo News

It looks as though ‘Transformers 5’ is going to pull out the big guns… as voice actor Mark Ryan spills the beans on what we can expect.

During an appearance at Wings and Wheels UK (via Christian Post), the 59-year-old voice actor (who voiced Lockdown in ‘Age of Extinction’), revealed everything he knows about the movie’s plot so far.

“He explained that the film is undergoing dual directions,” they said. “He said that the first will focus on Cade and Co. With that, fans predicted that ‘Transformers 5’ will be centered around having the Autobots on earth.”
“The plan is to have Cade Yeager (Mark Wahlberg) and the Dinobots - with a few Autobots thrown in for good measure - assemble to tackle an impending threat on Earth,” expanded the folks at CBM. “[At the same time,] Optimus Prime will head into outer space to hunt down the creators of his race, the Quintessons, something which will see him reportedly meet up with Unicron.”

If you ask me, that sounds like an awful lot to pack into one movie… but with a huge character such as Unicron just casually dropped in there, this could be the ‘Transformers’ movie we’ve all been waiting for.

Of course, there are also rumours that Paramount Pictures is seeking to expand the Transformers franchise by creating a number of spin-offs… and Mark Ryan even has a hint about which direction they’ll go.

“The franchise plans to reinvent the brand of the movie adaptations to focus more on the transformers, as opposed to the human character present,” he apparently explained.

Now, this is all just rumours and speculation, but it could mean that Paramount is looking to focus each ‘Transformers’ spin-off on a particular robotic character – much like the Avengers solo films follow their respective heroes.

And if you ask me, that makes a lot of sense.

Whether or not it will prove to be a ‘Transformers’ overload for fans of the series remains to be seen… But either way, it sounds as though there are a lot more Autobots and Decepticons heading our way.

‘Transformers 5’ heads to cinemas sometime in 2017.

[Hellscream9999]

So by 'the movie we've been waiting for' you mean the one that ruins the most epic, awe-inspiring, transformers character ever? Unicron should only be utilized if the writers know how to write a movie script, and have an understanding of the character, and what he means to not only himself, but the movie universe.

I thought the wrathful version of prime was very well done, and obviously, the '86 movie's Unicron forever changed me. To see this ultimate evil casually sh&t upon in this movie is going to be as painful as seeing the great 'Fallen' sh&t on

Hopefully the several dozen of competent (?) writers they amassed for these movies can bring them out of the sewer.

[Burn]

Sounds like fan wank to me.

[Hellscream9999]

Sounds like fan wank to me.

Keep tellin' yourself that, I'm sure it'll keep them from ruining Unicron

[NiteStar]

Well even if any of this is true or not the part I find funny is that its taken then 8-9 years to make decide to make a transformers movie about transformers rather than about Sam getting his car, Sam getting a girlfriend, Sam going to college, Sam getting a job. Its like duh, what are y'all waiting for?! And then all the families and friends and Military involvement. I only give good credit to the first movie cuz it was a great introduction and setup to the story and franchise and I did have high hopes at the time BUT then it just fell off from there after that. Each one just got worse and worse until this last one with Mark Wahlberg was just forgettable story-wsie. If anything I hope is true that we see less and less humans and more focused plot-centered TF lore. Wether it be G1 or not ...lets go to friggin' Cyberton goddam it! Just once! F*** all this BS already!

[Sabrblade]

Oh dear. Anyone wanna take a little trip with me to see how far professional Internet journalism has fallen?

The Yahoo! News article links to an article at Christian Post Entertainment on the "Wings and Wheels UK" event that Mark Ryan supposedly revealed these TF5 plot points at. Let's set this aside for now.

The Yahoo! News article also links to Comic Book Movie as the source of the Quintesson/Unicron plot, who in turn link to Dark Horizons as their source, who then link to Parent Herald (and to MovieWeb, who also links back to Parent Herald), who finally then links all the way back to Christian Post Entertainment... except that CPE does NOT mention the Quintesson/Unicron plot at all.

So where did the Quintesson/Unicron plot idea originate from? Well, let's head over to looking at yet another site, a TF fansite, where user Olivus Prime gives his own report from this Wings and Wheels UK event:

This year's Wings and Wheels (a motoring and airshow event at Dunsfold Aerodrome in the UK) has taken place over this weekend, and I was pleasantly surprised to meet Mark Ryan there, who was a guest with Transformers Car Hire. As I've heard, he was an incredibly polite and enthusiastic chap who chatted to me for a fair amount of time about his experience on the Transformers movies. Some of the stuff he mentioned to me I didn't know of before, so I thought I'd share it:

• Jetfire - Apparently he based this performance upon his friend Ray Winstone. When Winstone saw the film, he called Mark and said he owed him a beer.
• Lockdown - Mark talked about the improvisation he's allowed to do on set, and Lockdown was a case in point of this. Before shooting, Mark was pondering how to approach the character, when he saw a Jaguar advert in his hotel room that acted as inspiration for the voice. Apparently when he then used it in the dock scene when Ratchet is killed, his voice echoed around the docks (sounding like "the voice of God"!) and everyone was in awe. His facial expressions were also a big influence upon the character, especially in the "You think you were born" scene.
• Upcoming sequels - I don't really follow this much so I don't know if this is new, but he said filming for TF5 ought to start next year and that the films will follow two directions now, one of which focusses upon Cade and co.

This report seems to confirm that Mark Ryan did at least say something about the next movie going in two directions, but nothing is said of any Quintesson/Unicron plot in his report (and something like that is not something that a fan would want to keep undisclosed if it was officially said at a public event).

...But there sure is plenty of fan speculation about the Quints and Uni all over the Internet, particularly on TF fansites like this one and that one.


So, to make a long story short, it would appear that a ton of credible news sites created articles based on unfounded speculation originating from the wishful thinking of fans. That is some pretty bad journalism.

[Hellscream9999]

So, to make a long story short, it would appear that a ton of credible news sites created articles based on unfounded speculation originating from the wishful thinking of fans. That is some pretty bad journalism.

[Sabrblade]

And, BLAMMO! The good folks at Unicron.com have personally reached out to Mark Ryan himself to ask him about these rumors - https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153206957464912&id=317740274911

Many sites are misquoting Mark Ryan as having talked about Transformers 5 plot (including our beloved UNICRON...) at a "recent UK convention." We reached out to our friend, Mr. Mark Ryan who voiced Bumblebee in 1, Jetfire in RotF and Lockdown in AoE. We asked him if he really said any of the things that are being reported. His response:

"Hey mate! I didn't give an official interview or even mention Unicron. I was misquoted from a casual chat with a fan and the Internet did the rest! I have no idea what the story will be or who/what's in it. It's all secret..."

So, as we suspected the Unicron/Quintesson/Dinobot rumors are nothing more than fanboy wishlists, fabricated to get attract attention.

[Burn]

Told you. Fan wank.

[NiteStar]

And, BLAMMO! The good folks at Unicron.com have personally reached out to Mark Ryan himself to ask him about these rumors - https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153206957464912&id=317740274911

Many sites are misquoting Mark Ryan as having talked about Transformers 5 plot (including our beloved UNICRON...) at a "recent UK convention." We reached out to our friend, Mr. Mark Ryan who voiced Bumblebee in 1, Jetfire in RotF and Lockdown in AoE. We asked him if he really said any of the things that are being reported. His response:

"Hey mate! I didn't give an official interview or even mention Unicron. I was misquoted from a casual chat with a fan and the Internet did the rest! I have no idea what the story will be or who/what's in it. It's all secret..."

So, as we suspected the Unicron/Quintesson/Dinobot rumors are nothing more than fanboy wishlists, fabricated to get attract attention.

Well I hope none of this is directed at me. Im just sharing info I found. I have no clue what could be true or not.
But this sucks. I almost dont even want them to make another movie if its just going to be more of what we've been already getting.
I want to see them in space the whole time with just Transformers as the characters with very little human story.
Ive been disappointed thus far so I dont have much hope for it, at least not at this current time.

[Hellscream9999]

And, BLAMMO! The good folks at Unicron.com have personally reached out to Mark Ryan himself to ask him about these rumors - https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153206957464912&id=317740274911

Many sites are misquoting Mark Ryan as having talked about Transformers 5 plot (including our beloved UNICRON...) at a "recent UK convention." We reached out to our friend, Mr. Mark Ryan who voiced Bumblebee in 1, Jetfire in RotF and Lockdown in AoE. We asked him if he really said any of the things that are being reported. His response:

"Hey mate! I didn't give an official interview or even mention Unicron. I was misquoted from a casual chat with a fan and the Internet did the rest! I have no idea what the story will be or who/what's in it. It's all secret..."

So, as we suspected the Unicron/Quintesson/Dinobot rumors are nothing more than fanboy wishlists, fabricated to get attract attention.

Well I hope none of this is directed at me. Im just sharing info I found. I have no clue what could be true or not.
But this sucks. I almost dont even want them to make another movie if its just going to be more of what we've been already getting.
I want to see them in space the whole time with just Transformers as the characters with very little human story.
Ive been disappointed thus far so I dont have much hope for it, at least not at this current time.

Do you realize how obtusely expensive that would be to fund and direct? Not only would it have SW prequel syndrome (everything on green screen, so no realism) but the cost to create, animate, and render the movie would be so egregiously high that it would never get the green light - there are other reasons for all the gratuitous product placement in aoe