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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Preview

Postby Va'al » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:51 pm

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Are you ready for another issue of the emotional (quantum) rollercoaster that is IDW Publishing's Transformers: More than Meets the Eye? Check out below this week's comic full (quantum) preview, thanks to comics website Newsarama, and head back to Seibertron.com later for the (quantum) review - and possible spoilers for everything. Quantum.

Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33: Dawn of the Autobots
James Roberts (w) • Alex Milne (a & c)
REVELATIONS! The fate of an entire planet hangs in the balance as MEGATRON races to solve the dark riddle of Sector 113. As unseen forces move in for the kill and old friends reveal their true colors, the AUTOBOTS realize that everything—everything—is a lie. All this...and an open briefcase.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:17 pm

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I think my brain turned into mush trying to understand.


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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Moody magpie » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:26 pm

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So that's why the Rodimus in the coffin was missing part of his head!
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby reVelske » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:03 pm

It's always fun to watch as speculations from a previous issue proving true!

I'm surprised that they wrote Rung off to simply have died in the explosion rather than have him killed by the Sparkeater as Skids wasn't available to save him, which would make a lot more sense.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:31 pm

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Ah so many things falling into place, though think, for that brief moment in time there was two Overlords...looks to be great :D
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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Review

Postby Va'al » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:07 am

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Quantum Review
(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
REVELATIONS! The fate of an entire planet hangs in the balance as MEGATRON races to solve the dark riddle of Sector 113. As unseen forces move in for the kill and old friends reveal their true colors, the AUTOBOTS realize that everything—everything—is a lie. All this...and an open briefcase.

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Plus a Swerve recap, of course


Story

Death death death death lunch death death afternoon tea death. Pretty much sums up issue 32, the beginning of the Slaughterhouse chapter in More than Meets the Eye, as the DJD are shown - or rather, their aftermath - to make their way through a slightly different Lost Light. With one single, tiny survivor.

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Be ready for some explanations that, while making sense even in the non-text world, might take some time to get around in James Roberts' enjoyment of them and the sci-fi genre. At the same time, Nightbeat and, especially, Nautica are still the mouthpieces for exposition, with some nice chemistry between them and with the reader's projection in Getaway and Riptide.

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Doesn't get(away) it


What is also very good to see is a healthy dose of self-criticism, too, as Roberts appears to be aware of potential criticisms from the readership. Mostly humorous, but not only, and scattered throughout the book. And to top it all, we get one of possibly the biggest twists in this series' run so far - and it's pulled off twice!

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So far, one of my favourite MTMTE resolutions, after the issues I had with the Overlord and Remain in Light sagas - though I still have some concern for the denouement reserved to the Rewind plotline, and I do hope it gets addressed again before we get lost in Elegant Chaos. As something else seems to be set in motion, very briefly, in the epilogues, too..

Art

Alex Milne's might alone was not enough for this issue, as two inkers join the lineart team to provide some delineation to different scenes - and both Brian Shearer and John Wycough work wonderfully with Milne's pencils, giving some particularly amusing facial expressions, some of which yet unseen in Milne's work alone. Especially Riptide.

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Oh, Riptide


What is definitely not unseen, however, is Joana Lafuente's (still) astonishingly good colouring work: from fading to quantum foam, to space, to interiors, different lights, flashbacks, mood settings, the colours really aid the reader in setting further the tone to the scene, if the lines and er.. lines were not enough already.

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The letters are once more by Tom B. Long, in a style that I have really come to enjoy, and even though there isn't much in terms of sound effects this time round, the title page and the uses of translucency for certain scenes is just part of the trademark visual quality of this series. Something proven by the variant covers too, from Sarah Stone's to Casey Coller and JP Bove, via the main Milne and Josh Perez haunting Rewind and Nick Roche and Josh Burcham (thumbnail) doing justice to the DJD.


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

This is a James Roberts Transformers comic script, no doubt about it. There is a lot of unpacking to be done once you read through (and even as you are reading, for that matter), and I'd be curious to see the wordcount for the script before and after the visual rendition - because there are a lot of words in this issue. A lot. And yet some of the better scenes can be completely silent. Especially the sweeter, and the more horrific ones. Be warned.

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Do you?


And that's where the art team come in, from Milne and Lafuente to Wycough and Shearer and cover artists, making everything flow so smoothly you almost forget about the atrocities, quantum mechanics, heart-wrenching tales of survival and general twistedness. Are we back on track, though, if the issue's conclusion is anything to go by? Or are we to face even more horrors on the Lost Light?

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:00 am

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Have some pencils, too. :D

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Sagitta » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:46 am

Motto: ""Look to see what's there and see what's not.""
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And all this because the "Historical Constant" is removed from the picture? Tsk-tsk.

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:51 am

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It needs to be tomorrow so I can get all spoilery and gushy about this issue. Looking forward to having it on ink and paper!
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:09 am

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It needs to be tomorrow so I can READ the flyin' frikker! ;)
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:12 am

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The part I find so novel, is that in the preview at least, Rung (Rewind's Rung), whom has been established to be one of the most important secondary Characters in the current IDW mythos; dies in a way so pointless and meaningless that it's genuinely funny that it can even condensed into a throw away line.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:27 am

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
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SW's SilverHammer wrote:The part I find so novel, is that in the preview at least, Rung (Rewind's Rung), whom has been established to be one of the most important secondary Characters in the current IDW mythos; dies in a way so pointless and meaningless that it's genuinely funny that it can even condensed into a throw away line.

That 's probably a reference to his always being in the background of major incidents.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Neurie » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:38 pm

That ending and coda, so touching yet so deliciously sinister.

I wonder if Hasbro will be adding a new feature to that toy.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:42 pm

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Neurie wrote:That ending and coda, so touching yet so deliciously sinister.

I wonder if Hasbro will be adding a new feature to that toy.


I doubt it, but that doesn't mean it won't sell like even hotter cakes now! :D
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:30 pm

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Wow. Just wow.

So if Brainstorm is the Decepticon mole, did the DJD kill him, or was he offed by an Autobot? Because if he's a traitor, I get it. But if he's not, did he just somehow end up as collatteral?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby chaosmage42 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:34 pm

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Wow. Just wow.

So if Brainstorm is the Decepticon mole, did the DJD kill him, or was he offed by an Autobot? Because if he's a traitor, I get it. But if he's not, did he just somehow end up as collatteral?

my theory is that it might be something far more devious i think that the brainstorm we are seeing right now isn't the brainstorm we know i think its a case there being 2 of them or if i dare hope its a case of body jacking -maybe this brainstorm is a head master and the reason we see him doing this is another headmaster has jacked his body. i just don't buy that the brainstorm is evil -at least not totally -it also is possible that he in't a member and that the plate is related to something else -like he joined when it first started but he got out but the brand on his face plate couldn't come off or he keeps it to remind him of something we don't know yet
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby prjkt » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:34 pm

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Interesting twist.... Opens up a whole lot of questions though

On another note, looks like we're getting a Legends Brawn outnofmthe swerve/gears mould if that bar scene is anything to go by
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:48 pm

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chaosmage42 wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Wow. Just wow.

So if Brainstorm is the Decepticon mole, did the DJD kill him, or was he offed by an Autobot? Because if he's a traitor, I get it. But if he's not, did he just somehow end up as collatteral?

my theory is that it might be something far more devious i think that the brainstorm we are seeing right now isn't the brainstorm we know i think its a case there being 2 of them or if i dare hope its a case of body jacking -maybe this brainstorm is a head master and the reason we see him doing this is another headmaster has jacked his body. i just don't buy that the brainstorm is evil -at least not totally -it also is possible that he in't a member and that the plate is related to something else -like he joined when it first started but he got out but the brand on his face plate couldn't come off or he keeps it to remind him of something we don't know yet

That's crazy. So crazy...it just might work.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby chaosmage42 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:32 pm

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well the thing is don't assume what we see is everything - for example pharma we assumed he was a good guy turns out psyco, we though overlord was also a fake out-skids also not what he though he was -all of this is a series of fake out we assume right now that this person is the traitor but that doesn't totally add up -if he were he wouldn't have helped with the overlord research to find out how phase 6 are made if the autobots get that the djd would have killed him the question is who is the real traitor is it even someone still on the lost light-although events are similar ie the spark eater thing -also there is something far more dangerous that we all seem to have forgotten about -THE POINT ONE PERCENTER SPARK -Brainstorm had it what has he been doing with it. Now this is kind a issue as what could he be doing with that. I have a bad feeling.

Also i just realized something MAJOR ok here is the thing if brainstorm was the traitor why is it that only after the entire crew knew about overlord being there that they when disabled the clock that hid him form the djd and got them all killed everyone. also since brainstorm as the bot who built it could have done it but the timing is wrong-why only after everyone knew about overlord. because brainstorm as a con would have done this first chance he had after they left in which case the djd would have also caught up to the ones we followed and killed them too. so what im saying although its not proof i think that who ever betrayed everyone did it because he found out overlord was alive because rodimus died-also another thing thats important is that the events of the first comics are what didn't happen exactly the same -also its issue 8 when the signal is picked up so far i can't think of who are when it could have happened but what ever it is the person who is the real spy or what ever made brainstorm do it was not present. Also as for him acting nuts in the bar i think that the dead universe zombie thing its hard to say weather its him being nutty or not. Also i think atomizer is more of a possible mole think about this if he is a con agent then he would give rodimus false information to eliminate people who he didn't want coming with them -if he hadn't talked to rachet how would he have known the list was a fake-i would say if he isn't bad he is definatly up to something
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby 1984forever » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:20 pm

Judging from the crossed out lines I can't talk about how much I like a certain character this way, so I'll talk about the characters I don't like. Chromedome and Rewind. They're sickening together even though they're not really doing anything. It's what is implied with the whole Conjunx Endura thing. It looks like a man carrying on a improper relationship with a little boy.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby chaosmage42 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:35 pm

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i don't see the problem transformers have no females till recently -beside their robots its like having a really good best friend you talk to a lot

also i found something interesting in issue 21 after the bit were cyclonus uses his great sword on tailgate there is a pannel with brainstorm holding that .1% spark i think there is a hole in is cheast cavity -im just guessing but maybe that means as i guessed his spark is in his head because he is a head master -just a guess -also might explain why he lied about being forged -maybe brainstorm is forged and the head master how has body jacked him is not
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What happened to Bluestreak?

Postby Tal El » Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:57 am

It just dawned on me, what happened to Bluestreak when everyone on the Lost Light was disappearing? He wasn't on the ship during the first trip. Did he end up floating around in the empty space that was once the Light or another shuttle?

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby chaosmage42 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:30 am

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might be what the next issue is it involes 4 bots on a planet so im guess he and 3 others who were also new recruits are stuck on a planet while everyings going on
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby Tal El » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:57 pm

Good to know. Thanks, chaosmage42.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #33 Discussion Thread

Postby chaosmage42 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:36 pm

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no prob =i didn't know he was on board anyone else -new we didn't see -its hard to keep track lots of bots on lost light -one of my objectives is to make a lost light crew set
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