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News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:02 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:I think HLJ, AmiAmi and Anime-Export all removed MP-23 from their listing.

Still up on Amazon Japan though.

I've checked my account and the order still stands but in their store catalogue its gone. I just emailed them to get a clearer issue of my order status.

Let us know what happens.

I have an Exhaust on order with them too, and it still shows up in my account. I'm curious if we get to hold onto 'em.

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:38 pm

megatronus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:I think HLJ, AmiAmi and Anime-Export all removed MP-23 from their listing.

Still up on Amazon Japan though.

I've checked my account and the order still stands but in their store catalogue its gone. I just emailed them to get a clearer issue of my order status.

Let us know what happens.

I have an Exhaust on order with them too, and it still shows up in my account. I'm curious if we get to hold onto 'em.

I would imagine they removed the listing so as to not draw the eye of the Philip Morris lawyers but will probably honor the pre-orders they already have.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:38 pm

LOST Cybertronian wrote:
megatronus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:I think HLJ, AmiAmi and Anime-Export all removed MP-23 from their listing.

Still up on Amazon Japan though.

I've checked my account and the order still stands but in their store catalogue its gone. I just emailed them to get a clearer issue of my order status.

Let us know what happens.

I have an Exhaust on order with them too, and it still shows up in my account. I'm curious if we get to hold onto 'em.

I would imagine they removed the listing so as to not draw the eye of the Philip Morris lawyers but will probably honor the pre-orders they already have.

Keeping my fingers crossed LC!

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:42 pm

I will be getting this one due to knowing a guy in Japan.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:07 pm

Houston, we have a makeover! - http://www.taghobby.com/1-0/1-1/takarat ... t-6500yen/

Original deco before the changes were made:

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:10 pm

Hmmm...

Glad to see the changes are fairly minor - nothing some stickers won't fix!

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:31 pm

yeah! i wonder what this will mean for the import stores?

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:46 pm

Thanks to Taghobby.com, we have some new images of MP-23 Exhaust. These new images show a slightly tweaked deco due to legal issues raised by Philip Morris which prevented the figure from being marketed or sold in the U.S. The initial deco used marks that are trademarked by Philip Morris for their Marlboro cigarettes brand. The green bits on the hood are now full rectangles while the red pattern on the hood has also been altered. What do you think of these changes? Will you still purchase Exhaust? Sound off in the Energon Pub.

To see the changes made check out the original deco Exhaust.

News Credits: 376 · by **Bounti76** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:52 pm

You know... I'm okay with this. The deco isn't bad or horribly different. Just different enough. And it should be fairly easy to modify him if you want a toy-accurate deco.

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:55 pm

I'll definitely still get him. I don't need it to exactly be a cigarette carton. I don't smoke, anyway.

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:29 pm

sol magnus wrote:I'll definitely still get him. I don't need it to exactly be a cigarette carton. I don't smoke, anyway.

That. Is. Awesome! Problem solved. Thanks Takara!

Though really odd that they even thought that it would be a good idea to do an exact replica of the original Marlboro design.

by **Yotsuyasan** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:44 pm

Huh, I did not think Takara would bother with this, since their primary concern is their domestic (Japanese) market, which was not effected by any legal issues. While this isn't a figure I myself was after, for the benefit of my fellow collectors who are interested in it, I am happy to have been incorrect in my assumptions!

Enjoy it, folks!

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:46 pm

Seibertron wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I'll definitely still get him. I don't need it to exactly be a cigarette carton. I don't smoke, anyway.

That. Is. Awesome! Problem solved. Thanks Takara!

Though really odd that they even thought that it would be a good idea to do an exact replica of the original Marlboro design.

I'm thinking maybe Lancia approved the design and Takara thought that was enough as long as they didn't use the Marlboro logos. Legal department dropped the ball on this for sure.

Emerje

News Credits: 1 · by **durroth** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:57 pm

now we just need to find the right shade of red paint to fix it up. anyone have ideas on how to precision remove a portion of the green?

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:08 am

masterpiece-mp-23-exhaust-unveiled-t101591s200.php#p1627981

Just like Kyosho got around the "patterns" of Malboro.

by **ultramagnusbr** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:31 am

Didn't like it. Lost a bit of interest.

by **patrick.timothy** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:05 am

I don't mind. I don't plan buying him anyway.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:18 am

patrick.timothy wrote:I don't mind. I don't plan buying him anyway.

Was this statement necessary? :???:

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:19 am

ultramagnusbr wrote:Didn't like it. Lost a bit of interest.

Don't be too harsh with the judgment. A lot of naysayers were razzing MP-BB (most probably didn't own one yet) but once in your hands, you'll be appreciating it.

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:31 am

I just happy Exhaust gets released.

News Credits: 1 · by **durroth** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:36 am

honestly the way I see it is they just made it alot easier for those of us who really want it accurate to get a proper V shape on the hood with some spraypaint and tape. I would have liked it if they would have at least made it a bit less abrupt than completely omitting paint from those two pieces (make it at least angle in steeply instead of sudden 90 degree dip) and I can understand people who preordered before wanting the deco they ordered it for, but it's not the end of the world for me... actually, people who have wheeljack, where do those two middle pieces GO in bot mode? I can't see them on the legs at all, are they folded inside?

News Credits: 7 · by **alldarker** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:01 am

durroth wrote:(...) actually, people who have wheeljack, where do those two middle pieces GO in bot mode? I can't see them on the legs at all, are they folded inside?

Those middle pieces are the edges of panels which in robot mode turn around 370 degrees to become the soles of MP-20 / MP-23's feet.
And yeah, I totally agree, this new deco makes it easier to create the perfect V-shape if you'd want to do it youself. Painting red over white is easier than painting white over red!
The previous deco wasn't acurate either (although perhaps a litle easier on the eyes), and being 'almost' there just looked jarring to me. I'd say the green rectangles are just perfect, as far as I'm concerned. I just wish they'd kept the sides of the rear spoiler red, instead of keeping those white. Although on the actual 598 Marlboro Lancia Stratos, white sides on the spoiler seems to be more acurate than the red was.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:34 am

So if Rieje/Mirage gets released, Tomy/Takara will now know what NOT to do then unless Gitanes is okay with their Logo posted on an MP figure/vehicle.

by **Wolfguard** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:05 am

These new images show a slightly tweaked deco due to legal issues raised by Philip Morris which prevented the figure from being marketed or sold in the U.S. The initial deco used marks that are trademarked by Philip Morris for their Marlboro cigarettes brand. The green bits on the hood are now full rectangles while the red pattern on the hood has also been altered.

Well, well, well, looks like the thing I said could be done - what people told me wouldn't be done - just got done. Imagine that...

>:oP

by **ultramagnusbr** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:16 am

fenrir72 wrote:
ultramagnusbr wrote:Didn't like it. Lost a bit of interest.

Don't be too harsh with the judgment. A lot of naysayers were razzing MP-BB (most probably didn't own one yet) but once in your hands, you'll be appreciating it.

Sorry. I was the heat of the moment... I'm still getting one. And it's good for more people too.
I was just saying that because I preordered it a while ago on a premise that doesn't exist anymore.