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[BERSEKAEL]

Hasbro STOP that crap and get serious on your main toy lines...

[Mykltron]

So you can arm yourself and pretend to be an Autobot and hunt what exactly? No one can dress up as a Decepticon.

[psj333]

Look, I'm not going to argue here. But perhaps this picture might help. Do remember the Mutacons? They are Shifters as well. They appear to have their own robot and altmodes, and they turn into spaceships. If you don't believe me, have a look at this:

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/3 ... tacons.jpg

Now does those look at true forms toy you?

[RAcast]

Look, I'm not going to argue here. But perhaps this picture might help. Do remember the Mutacons? They are Shifters as well. They appear to have their own robot and altmodes, and they turn into spaceships. If you don't believe me, have a look at this:

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/3 ... tacons.jpg

Now does those look at true forms toy you?

Well those are pretty cool, and sure they do have default Movie-Protoform-Prime-esque altmodes, but neither of the Shifters we've seen on screen is a Mutacon.

Makeshift was never shown as anything but a villian-of-the-week black silhouette with red eyes. Psuedo at least looks like he might have a default atlmode, but we haven't seen it. If we get a toy of the latter, great, but I'd be surprised if we got (a transforming) one. I'm sure we'll see a Tiny Titan one, one of those little rubbery figurines, if that's your thing.

[RAR]

I think we have a couple of waves left in Combiner Wars - as I've mentioned in passing before I do wonder if they might have plans to keep the next batch of RID fairly short so though the line does last into 2016 by the last couple of Quarters 2016 it will be pretty much gone.

But sometimes Hasbro really stretch things out so I guess they could have another wave soon and then some sort of Season 2 refresh and maybe let it slowly dribble through 2016.

I don't know if they will mention RID much at New York Comicon - they might have it mentioned as part of a brand overview - sort of like how they mention the general marketing plan - but if I'm right in recalling correctly that brand management stuff seems more likely to be at a share holder event or Botcon.

I'm happy for RID-16 to be a thing so long as they are not horribly lazy about (by that I mean putting less effort into it than they did into Beast Hunters)

[welcometothedarksyde]

I don't even know

[psj333]

Well those are pretty cool, and sure they do have default Movie-Protoform-Prime-esque altmodes, but neither of the Shifters we've seen on screen is a Mutacon.

Makeshift was never shown as anything but a villian-of-the-week black silhouette with red eyes. Psuedo at least looks like he might have a default atlmode, but we haven't seen it. If we get a toy of the latter, great, but I'd be surprised if we got (a transforming) one. I'm sure we'll see a Tiny Titan one, one of those little rubbery figurines, if that's your thing.

That's exactly what exactly what I'm trying to tell you again and again RAcast, but many of you chose not to listen. The way that these Transformers (Shifters) are created should proof to you exactly of who they really are.

Also correct if I'm wrong. But as for Makeshift, his body that you and I both stated earlier was completely blacked out. Because Hasbro doesn't want us to know that is his real self. Only Megatron can see him and we can't. But in case that you haven't noticed, that Makeshift's eyes were actually yellow and not red as you stated before. You're right that Pseudo might have an altmode already, only we don't know which one. But if he were to scan an official vehicle mode, what will it most likely be? Keep in mind that there is no right or wrong answer for that. All we do know for sure that his real robot mode is a ladybug larva. That's all. If only if Steeljaw successfully released him along with all the others, perhaps we could get a much closer look to what his official mode will be like.


What I'm saying is this: Every Transformer, no matter what kind, must have a true form in order for them to function. Without it, they would be lifeless and useless, which means that they would be no need for them to exist in the first place.

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. But whoever is responsible for posting phony information on how and why Shifters never have a true form in which they are not, let me ask you this: Just where exactly did you get that information from?

[Madeus Prime]

Okay, okay, psj, just stop. You're correct, we're wrong. We get it. Obviously we'll be seeing a Pseudo toy.

[psj333]

Madeus_Prime, first off I just to apologize for the things that said to you and that I didn't really to yell at your face. The reason I did this, because, I was furious and appalled that someone else, or course, not you, must have posted false information about how Shifters never have true forms. The answer to that question is no. It's not true. If you have clicked on the link of the picture of the Shifters which were known as the Mutacons that I've just posted earlier, perhaps that might be able to help get a much better understanding of these guys. I just want to clear that up that's all.

I'm pretty sure that many for of you are aware that TFW2005.com already confirmed that Quillfire will get a toy sometime between this November to December. I do hope so the same thing for Malador, Nightstrike, Vertebreak, Groundpounder as many others.


Just because you said we'll see Pseudo getting a toy, that doesn't mean that we will, but there is a very good chance that he will eventually become one anyway, if only Steeljaw did successfully released him and all of his fellow friends.

Now on to his altmode. People like me are still desperate to know what will his real altmode be like. Based on his ladybug larva-based robot mode, if he ever were to scan an altmode or if he indeed has one already, what would it most likely be? What is the name of the vehicle that you can come up with that Pseudo mostly represents as his altmode? Please keep in mind that there is no right or wrong answer for that. You know fully well that the Mutacons do have their own robot modes and their official altmode is a spaceship. So what type of vehicle would Pseudo be in this case? Please take some time to answer that question and then get back to me. Please don't freak on me, if you can't come up with an answer. Just be creative and think really hard about it.

[william-james88]

If anyone still just wants to talk about the toys, the TAV thread is still alive and well

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Well those are pretty cool, and sure they do have default Movie-Protoform-Prime-esque altmodes, but neither of the Shifters we've seen on screen is a Mutacon.

Makeshift was never shown as anything but a villian-of-the-week black silhouette with red eyes. Psuedo at least looks like he might have a default atlmode, but we haven't seen it. If we get a toy of the latter, great, but I'd be surprised if we got (a transforming) one. I'm sure we'll see a Tiny Titan one, one of those little rubbery figurines, if that's your thing.

That's exactly what exactly what I'm trying to tell you again and again RAcast, but many of you chose not to listen. The way that these Transformers (Shifters) are created should proof to you exactly of who they really are.

Also correct if I'm wrong. But as for Makeshift, his body that you and I both stated earlier was completely blacked out. Because Hasbro doesn't want us to know that is his real self. Only Megatron can see him and we can't. But in case that you haven't noticed, that Makeshift's eyes were actually yellow and not red as you stated before. You're right that Pseudo might have an altmode already, only we don't know which one. But if he were to scan an official vehicle mode, what will it most likely be? Keep in mind that there is no right or wrong answer for that. All we do know for sure that his real robot mode is a ladybug larva. That's all. If only if Steeljaw successfully released him along with all the others, perhaps we could get a much closer look to what his official mode will be like.


What I'm saying is this: Every Transformer, no matter what kind, must have a true form in order for them to function. Without it, they would be lifeless and useless, which means that they would be no need for them to exist in the first place.

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. But whoever is responsible for posting phony information on how and why Shifters never have a true form in which they are not, let me ask you this: Just where exactly did you get that information from?

Okay, okay, psj, just stop. You're correct, we're wrong. We get it. Obviously we'll be seeing a Pseudo toy.

*sigh* When will all the PSJ's learn.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm very glad we will be getting Megatronus. so glad that rumor and listing is now paying off.

As cool as it would be for others like Pseudo to get a toy, I still would rather get a Clampdown and Underbite Warrior before those guys. And as I said earlier, I am not saying anything is definite, I'm just giving an honest opinion of mine. We never got Prime Breakdown, and he was a main character! We never got several animated cons that were shown, and with the lopsided-ness of the current lines, I just don't feel many cons are coming, and if they do they will be main cast characters. Besides, if season 2 does happen, we will get new cons and bots, and maybe a new Pack, so with that may come new characters to make toys of and the others will be left behind again. or the whole bunch could be broken out, but with another show they did (Hero Factory), there was such a predicament, but they only ever showed new guys getting re-captured, not the old guys we saw previously getting captured.

And I think this shifter talk needs to rest for a while. We really have nothing except that they can mimmick any form. We do not know really anything about them, nor has anyone really lent much to look into their history, biology and such. the wiki article is extremely short too, there are no toys to speak of, and they remind me pretty much of Mystique from X-men. So let's just put this to rest. WE have nothing to prove any point, so wait until Barber, Roberts or Furman gives us one. Please?

Now we need to just see Megatronus and all the other new baddies we are getting since we have the listings

[psj333]

Besides, if season 2 does happen, we will get new cons and bots, and maybe a new Pack, so with that may come new characters to make toys of and the others will be left behind again. or the whole bunch could be broken out, but with another show they did (Hero Factory), there was such a predicament, but they only ever showed new guys getting re-captured, not the old guys we saw previously getting captured.

Season 2 will definitely happen, as stated by Hasbro on TFW2005.com before. It is scheduled to air sometime in 2016. Perhaps we might get a sneak preview at NYCC 2015 of what might Season 2 be like.

[Hellscream9999]

Well those are pretty cool, and sure they do have default Movie-Protoform-Prime-esque altmodes, but neither of the Shifters we've seen on screen is a Mutacon.

Makeshift was never shown as anything but a villian-of-the-week black silhouette with red eyes. Psuedo at least looks like he might have a default atlmode, but we haven't seen it. If we get a toy of the latter, great, but I'd be surprised if we got (a transforming) one. I'm sure we'll see a Tiny Titan one, one of those little rubbery figurines, if that's your thing.

That's exactly what exactly what I'm trying to tell you again and again RAcast, but many of you chose not to listen. The way that these Transformers (Shifters) are created should proof to you exactly of who they really are.

Also correct if I'm wrong. But as for Makeshift, his body that you and I both stated earlier was completely blacked out. Because Hasbro doesn't want us to know that is his real self. Only Megatron can see him and we can't. But in case that you haven't noticed, that Makeshift's eyes were actually yellow and not red as you stated before. You're right that Pseudo might have an altmode already, only we don't know which one. But if he were to scan an official vehicle mode, what will it most likely be? Keep in mind that there is no right or wrong answer for that. All we do know for sure that his real robot mode is a ladybug larva. That's all. If only if Steeljaw successfully released him along with all the others, perhaps we could get a much closer look to what his official mode will be like.


What I'm saying is this: Every Transformer, no matter what kind, must have a true form in order for them to function. Without it, they would be lifeless and useless, which means that they would be no need for them to exist in the first place.

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. But whoever is responsible for posting phony information on how and why Shifters never have a true form in which they are not, let me ask you this: Just where exactly did you get that information from?

Okay, okay, psj, just stop. You're correct, we're wrong. We get it. Obviously we'll be seeing a Pseudo toy.

*sigh* When will all the PSJ's learn.

I don't even know who else has him on their wish list; he looked stupid as hell, and I certainly wouldn't be buying any version of him

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So my girlfriend just bought me one of those candy dispensers from RiD and they are so cool! They have funky spiky hair and it is adorable! LOVE THEM!!!

[psj333]

Remember what I told you about how Hasbro not to show Makeshift's body, because he's a Shifter, and that they don't want us to know that is his real body? Well, on a side note of that, what I find very interesting about him was that I actually was surfing on a fanart site called, deviantart.net, and I found this picture of Makeshift himself on what is actual self was supposed to look like in the show should they haven't blacked out his body in the first place, and he looked like this:

http://pre04.deviantart.net/bf22/th/pre ... 6v5whp.jpg

Now judging by the looks of him, what would his official altmode be like?

[grimlockprime108]

mini version of megatron's jet mode

[RAR]

How to make a Makeshift toy

Step 1 Buy an Arms Micron Wheeljack
Step 2 Order some Repro label logos
Step 3 Place Decepticon logo on Wheeljack.

Job done.

[psj333]

mini version of megatron's jet mode

Can you at least provide us a fanart of what Makeshift's altmode was supposed to be like given by your statement above?

[grimlockprime108]

no b/c i was making a random suggestion given the design of the character

[DedicatedGhostArt]

How to make a Makeshift toy

Step 1 Buy an Arms Micron Wheeljack
Step 2 Order some Repro label logos
Step 3 Place Decepticon logo on Wheeljack.

Job done.

Makeshift says: "I'm prettier than that, I just was cosplaying for Wheeljack cuz my friends dared me to do it."

[RAR]

Ok Pretend Sharkticon Megatron is Makeshift then.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Ok Pretend Sharkticon Megatron is Makeshift then.

Blasphemy! That is an awesome Megatron. He is no pretender to the throne!

[Sabrblade]

Ok Pretend Sharkticon Megatron is Makeshift then.

Blasphemy! That is an awesome Megatron. He is no pretender to the throne!

Yeah, Megatron's form given to him by the Sharkticon Matrix can be no other bot.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Ok Pretend Sharkticon Megatron is Makeshift then.

Blasphemy! That is an awesome Megatron. He is no pretender to the throne!

Yeah, Megatron's form given to him by the Sharkticon Matrix can be no other bot.

He looks really cool and badass. I will accept a strange story behind it.