Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Agamemnon » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:24 pm

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Desslok2201 wrote:Has anyone seen pics of Takara Powerglide yet? I can't imagine there'd be much of a change on him, but I'd be interested to find out


We have seen blacked-out silhouettes of the Insecticons (for the Transfomers Adventure line), but if the TakaraTomy versions of the Aerialbots are any indication, we can expect him to be more show-accurate.

I expect that, but given that he's so simplistic, I can't imagine that there will be much of a difference on him


Depending on price I might pick it up just to have another Powerglide that, hopefully, has legs that peg together easily.

Nod nod nog nog nog nog. I'm trying to fix mine, but so far, no luck...


I think if you shave down the pegs on the inside of the leg it should work. My problem with that is that the inside of the legs are just as well painted as the outside

Indeed, that is what I am looking at as well. The question is that there are two sets of tabs to work with, and I have yet to figure out which set is the culprit. I started with the smallest one that looked like it was over-molded or over-shot or something. It looked like three pegs with flash filling in the space between the two. Well, not to bore people more (too late?) I've done some pretty major shaving around that piece with absolutely no positive results. So, I'm now thinking it's the longer tabs. I'll keep experimenting, and post a fix somewhere. (It might result in my purchasing a new figure too...)

And on an unrelated note, but appropriate to this thread, I took a couple of pics of Bombshell in weapon mode where the arms are ever so close to being tabbed together. If that detailing molded in the upper back wasn't there, it would peg quite nicely.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:24 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Mr O wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:So I'm assuming Hot Spot and Groove will be the only new molds for the Protectabots. Alpha Bravo will be Blades, First Aid will be Off Road and Streetwise and Rook will probably be other Stunticon remolds.


I think either Rook or First-aid might be a new mould used for Ironhide and a Combaticon. That Hotspot looks great to me, and I imagine an Onslaught made from that will look awesome.

Uhhh.... How exactly did Ironhide get involved in this?
Ironhide, Sunsteaker, Mirage, and Prowl all had Walmart computer listings for Generations.

Ok, hadn't heard that one. Kind of bizarre, that doesn't even represent the Masquerade team ( OP, Jazz, Sideswipe, Mirage, Windcharger)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:27 pm

Desslok2201 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Mr O wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:So I'm assuming Hot Spot and Groove will be the only new molds for the Protectabots. Alpha Bravo will be Blades, First Aid will be Off Road and Streetwise and Rook will probably be other Stunticon remolds.


I think either Rook or First-aid might be a new mould used for Ironhide and a Combaticon. That Hotspot looks great to me, and I imagine an Onslaught made from that will look awesome.

Uhhh.... How exactly did Ironhide get involved in this?
Ironhide, Sunsteaker, Mirage, and Prowl all had Walmart computer listings for Generations.

Ok, hadn't heard that one. Kind of bizarre, that doesn't even represent the Masquerade team ( OP, Jazz, Sideswipe, Mirage, Windcharger)

Wait a sec... Generations, not CW... That makes more sense
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:28 pm

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Desslok2201 wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Mr O wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:So I'm assuming Hot Spot and Groove will be the only new molds for the Protectabots. Alpha Bravo will be Blades, First Aid will be Off Road and Streetwise and Rook will probably be other Stunticon remolds.


I think either Rook or First-aid might be a new mould used for Ironhide and a Combaticon. That Hotspot looks great to me, and I imagine an Onslaught made from that will look awesome.

Uhhh.... How exactly did Ironhide get involved in this?
Ironhide, Sunsteaker, Mirage, and Prowl all had Walmart computer listings for Generations.

Ok, hadn't heard that one. Kind of bizarre, that doesn't even represent the Masquerade team ( OP, Jazz, Sideswipe, Mirage, Windcharger)

Wait a sec... Generations, not CW... That makes more sense
They were among other CW listings (namely the Protectobots). I was just being lazy in not typing out "CW".
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:30 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Mr O wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:So I'm assuming Hot Spot and Groove will be the only new molds for the Protectabots. Alpha Bravo will be Blades, First Aid will be Off Road and Streetwise and Rook will probably be other Stunticon remolds.


I think either Rook or First-aid might be a new mould used for Ironhide and a Combaticon. That Hotspot looks great to me, and I imagine an Onslaught made from that will look awesome.

Uhhh.... How exactly did Ironhide get involved in this?
Ironhide, Sunsteaker, Mirage, and Prowl all had Walmart computer listings for Generations.

Ok, hadn't heard that one. Kind of bizarre, that doesn't even represent the Masquerade team ( OP, Jazz, Sideswipe, Mirage, Windcharger)

Wait a sec... Generations, not CW... That makes more sense
They were among other CW listings (namely the Protectobots). I was just being lazy in not typing out "CW".

Ok, now I'm back to 'huh?'
Also, there's no combaticon that remotely resembles Ironhide
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:46 pm

Looks like a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck, a la Sentinel Prime.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:50 pm

Shuttershock wrote:Looks like a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck, a la Sentinel Prime.

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Just switch the fire hose with a missile battery and BLAMO, instant Onslaught!


Uh-oh. It just occurred to me, and forgive me if someone else mentioned it, that since they've already set the precedent for swapping out 'inconvenient' team members, we're probably looking at a brawl and blast-off free Bruticus. Kind of takes the combat out of combaticon.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:57 pm

Desslok2201 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:Looks like a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck, a la Sentinel Prime.

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Just switch the fire hose with a missile battery and BLAMO, instant Onslaught!


Uh-oh. It just occurred to me, and forgive me if someone else mentioned it, that since they've already set the precedent for swapping out 'inconvenient' team members, we're probably looking at a brawl and blast-off free Bruticus. Kind of takes the combat out of combaticon.


Maybe Brawl, but idk. Alpha Bravo could be retooled into Blast Off fairly easily as well as Vortex, or he could be downsized to a Aerialbot jet. If Onslaught, Vortex, Swindle and Blast Off are retools, they would only need to make a new mold for Brawl.

Could just as easily go the other way, but there's my thoughts. Though I don't have any of the figures yet, I love the idea of Combiner Wars and I'd be all for everyone getting involved. That, and Brawl and Blast Off are my favorite Combaticons.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:02 am

Shuttershock wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:Looks like a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck, a la Sentinel Prime.

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Just switch the fire hose with a missile battery and BLAMO, instant Onslaught!


Uh-oh. It just occurred to me, and forgive me if someone else mentioned it, that since they've already set the precedent for swapping out 'inconvenient' team members, we're probably looking at a brawl and blast-off free Bruticus. Kind of takes the combat out of combaticon.


Maybe Brawl, but idk. Alpha Bravo could be retooled into Blast Off fairly easily as well as Vortex, or he could be downsized to a Aerialbot jet. If Onslaught, Vortex, Swindle and Blast Off are retools, they would only need to make a new mold for Brawl.

Could just as easily go the other way, but there's my thoughts. Though I don't have any of the figures yet, I love the idea of Combiner Wars and I'd be all for everyone getting involved. That, and Brawl and Blast Off are my favorite Combaticons.


Making a helicopter into a space shuttle is a HEAVY retool. I wouldn't hold out too much hope for your two favorites. Not at having them in any way recognizeable, anyway.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Mr O » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:04 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Mr O wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:So I'm assuming Hot Spot and Groove will be the only new molds for the Protectabots. Alpha Bravo will be Blades, First Aid will be Off Road and Streetwise and Rook will probably be other Stunticon remolds.


I think either Rook or First-aid might be a new mould used for Ironhide and a Combaticon. That Hotspot looks great to me, and I imagine an Onslaught made from that will look awesome.

Uhhh.... How exactly did Ironhide get involved in this?
Ironhide, Sunsteaker, Mirage, and Prowl all had Walmart computer listings for Generations.

Ok, hadn't heard that one. Kind of bizarre, that doesn't even represent the Masquerade team ( OP, Jazz, Sideswipe, Mirage, Windcharger)

Wait a sec... Generations, not CW... That makes more sense
They were among other CW listings (namely the Protectobots). I was just being lazy in not typing out "CW".

Ok, now I'm back to 'huh?'
Also, there's no combaticon that remotely resembles Ironhide


No, but Offroad could be Ironhide, First-Aid or Rook, or all of them. They could remould it into a van, which would certainly make sense for the first two, or a Humvee-type wotsit that could work as Swindle or a SWAT vehicle Rook. Somebody mentioned Rook as a SWAT tank, there's Brawl. I could be more clear but I've been awake forever, the speculation is endless.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:07 am

Mr O wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Mr O wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:So I'm assuming Hot Spot and Groove will be the only new molds for the Protectabots. Alpha Bravo will be Blades, First Aid will be Off Road and Streetwise and Rook will probably be other Stunticon remolds.


I think either Rook or First-aid might be a new mould used for Ironhide and a Combaticon. That Hotspot looks great to me, and I imagine an Onslaught made from that will look awesome.

Uhhh.... How exactly did Ironhide get involved in this?
Ironhide, Sunsteaker, Mirage, and Prowl all had Walmart computer listings for Generations.

Ok, hadn't heard that one. Kind of bizarre, that doesn't even represent the Masquerade team ( OP, Jazz, Sideswipe, Mirage, Windcharger)

Wait a sec... Generations, not CW... That makes more sense
They were among other CW listings (namely the Protectobots). I was just being lazy in not typing out "CW".

Ok, now I'm back to 'huh?'
Also, there's no combaticon that remotely resembles Ironhide


No, but Offroad could be Ironhide, First-Aid or Rook, or all of them. They could remould it into a van, which would certainly make sense for the first two, or a Humvee-type wotsit that could work as Swindle or a SWAT vehicle Rook. Somebody mentioned Rook as a SWAT tank, there's Brawl. I could be more clear but I've been awake forever, the speculation is endless.

They could, true, but I'm thinking that we just saw the last two new molds in this line tonight.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:10 am

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yay hotspot!
but groove... i guess this confirms his tiny legends status :(
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:16 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:Looks like a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck, a la Sentinel Prime.

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Just switch the fire hose with a missile battery and BLAMO, instant Onslaught!


Uh-oh. It just occurred to me, and forgive me if someone else mentioned it, that since they've already set the precedent for swapping out 'inconvenient' team members, we're probably looking at a brawl and blast-off free Bruticus. Kind of takes the combat out of combaticon.


Maybe Brawl, but idk. Alpha Bravo could be retooled into Blast Off fairly easily as well as Vortex, or he could be downsized to a Aerialbot jet. If Onslaught, Vortex, Swindle and Blast Off are retools, they would only need to make a new mold for Brawl.

Could just as easily go the other way, but there's my thoughts. Though I don't have any of the figures yet, I love the idea of Combiner Wars and I'd be all for everyone getting involved. That, and Brawl and Blast Off are my favorite Combaticons.


Making a helicopter into a space shuttle is a HEAVY retool. I wouldn't hold out too much hope for your two favorites. Not at having them in any way recognizeable, anyway.


You know, for as modular this generations line is, I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally doubt that in the course of the year, hasbro will only use like 12 molds
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Mr O » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:25 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:Making a helicopter into a space shuttle is a HEAVY retool. I wouldn't hold out too much hope for your two favorites. Not at having them in any way recognizeable, anyway.


I think that particular helicopter is an easy space shuttle, the trick would be making the robot mode accurate, which wouldn't really be that hard. I can imagine AB as Blast-Off long before I can accept him, in vehicle mode, as Vortex.
I'm honestly not picking on you man, you're just exciting my discussion centres 8) .
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:27 am

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:Looks like a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck, a la Sentinel Prime.

Image

Just switch the fire hose with a missile battery and BLAMO, instant Onslaught!


Uh-oh. It just occurred to me, and forgive me if someone else mentioned it, that since they've already set the precedent for swapping out 'inconvenient' team members, we're probably looking at a brawl and blast-off free Bruticus. Kind of takes the combat out of combaticon.


Maybe Brawl, but idk. Alpha Bravo could be retooled into Blast Off fairly easily as well as Vortex, or he could be downsized to a Aerialbot jet. If Onslaught, Vortex, Swindle and Blast Off are retools, they would only need to make a new mold for Brawl.

Could just as easily go the other way, but there's my thoughts. Though I don't have any of the figures yet, I love the idea of Combiner Wars and I'd be all for everyone getting involved. That, and Brawl and Blast Off are my favorite Combaticons.


Making a helicopter into a space shuttle is a HEAVY retool. I wouldn't hold out too much hope for your two favorites. Not at having them in any way recognizeable, anyway.


You know, for as modular this generations line is, I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally doubt that in the course of the year, hasbro will only use like 12 molds

I thought they said 16 for this line, and I thought we were there now. Maybe I miscounted:
Aerialbots- 6
Stunticons-6
Hotspot, thundercracker, bombshell, groove, that's 16
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:35 am

Mr O wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:Making a helicopter into a space shuttle is a HEAVY retool. I wouldn't hold out too much hope for your two favorites. Not at having them in any way recognizeable, anyway.


I think that particular helicopter is an easy space shuttle, the trick would be making the robot mode accurate, which wouldn't really be that hard. I can imagine AB as Blast-Off long before I can accept him, in vehicle mode, as Vortex.
I'm honestly not picking on you man, you're just exciting my discussion centres 8) .

I don't take it as picking at all, I'm just seeing what they're doing and it's making more and more sense that Bruticus will be significantly altered
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:36 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:I thought they said 16 for this line, and I thought we were there now. Maybe I miscounted:
Aerialbots- 6
Stunticons-6
Hotspot, thundercracker, bombshell, groove, that's 16


I seriously doubt there will only be 16 molds. Powerglide and Blackjack aren't in your numbers to begin with. Plus there's the Constructicons.

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Postby SW's SilverHammer » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:40 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:Looks like a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck, a la Sentinel Prime.

Image

Just switch the fire hose with a missile battery and BLAMO, instant Onslaught!


Uh-oh. It just occurred to me, and forgive me if someone else mentioned it, that since they've already set the precedent for swapping out 'inconvenient' team members, we're probably looking at a brawl and blast-off free Bruticus. Kind of takes the combat out of combaticon.


Maybe Brawl, but idk. Alpha Bravo could be retooled into Blast Off fairly easily as well as Vortex, or he could be downsized to a Aerialbot jet. If Onslaught, Vortex, Swindle and Blast Off are retools, they would only need to make a new mold for Brawl.

Could just as easily go the other way, but there's my thoughts. Though I don't have any of the figures yet, I love the idea of Combiner Wars and I'd be all for everyone getting involved. That, and Brawl and Blast Off are my favorite Combaticons.


Making a helicopter into a space shuttle is a HEAVY retool. I wouldn't hold out too much hope for your two favorites. Not at having them in any way recognizeable, anyway.


You know, for as modular this generations line is, I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally doubt that in the course of the year, hasbro will only use like 12 molds

I thought they said 16 for this line, and I thought we were there now. Maybe I miscounted:
Aerialbots- 6
Stunticons-6
Hotspot, thundercracker, bombshell, groove, that's 16


and Megatron makes that 17
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Postby Desslok2201 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:40 am

Seibertron wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:I thought they said 16 for this line, and I thought we were there now. Maybe I miscounted:
Aerialbots- 6
Stunticons-6
Hotspot, thundercracker, bombshell, groove, that's 16


I seriously doubt there will only be 16 molds. Powerglide and Blackjack aren't in your numbers to begin with. Plus there's the Constructicons.

Much shall be revealed in a little less than 3 weeks at Toy Fair. I'll be there to provide our coverage of the event for all of you. :D

I included powerglide and blackjack in those numbers, as i put both teams at six instead of 5- I think they're going to consider the constructicons something outside the norm, like a store exclusive which they won't count. I didn't make up the 16 molds, that's what they said they were doing. i'm saying they've already showed all the molds they're going to use for this line. Prepare to see them in new colors
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Postby Seibertron » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:41 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:I included powerglide and blackjack in those numbers, as i put both teams at six instead of 5- I think they're going to consider the constructicons something outside the norm, like a store exclusive which they won't count. I didn't make up the 16 molds, that's what they said they were doing.


Who said that and when? Where?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:45 am

Seibertron wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:I included powerglide and blackjack in those numbers, as i put both teams at six instead of 5- I think they're going to consider the constructicons something outside the norm, like a store exclusive which they won't count. I didn't make up the 16 molds, that's what they said they were doing.


Who said that and when? Where?

I'll see if I can find the exact quote, but I remember it very clearly from the announcement panel from last year. I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just saying that they have all they need now to make to make Superion, Menasor, Defensor, and Bruticus, and that the last two will probably be altered like the first two have.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Mr O » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:49 am

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So, anyway. Slingshot and Wildrider presumably fit in somewhere. I'll accept straight repaints but Takara's SS head looks just as creepy and compelling as the original.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:11 am

Mr O wrote:So, anyway. Slingshot and Wildrider presumably fit in somewhere. I'll accept straight repaints but Takara's SS head looks just as creepy and compelling as the original.


Maybe it's just me, but it also looks disturbingly like Leader-1:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Mr O » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:27 am

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Shuttershock wrote:
Mr O wrote:So, anyway. Slingshot and Wildrider presumably fit in somewhere. I'll accept straight repaints but Takara's SS head looks just as creepy and compelling as the original.


Maybe it's just me, but it also looks disturbingly like Leader-1:

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I can assure you that it's not just you, at the very least it's us. I wonder if that's why they made Slingshot a dick in the cartoon, a cheeky jab at Gobots not really having the trousers to back up the mouth.
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