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[megatronus]

This news about Slingshot and Wildrider is awesome. At least Menasor's derpy knees can match now!

That said, Alpha Bravo and Offroad are better.

[Rodimus Prime]

Matter of opinion. He has his, you have yours.

Define "recent times."

1: A matter of opinion can only go so far before it becomes a bullcrap statement like it does here stating on how it doesn't look like a Transformer.

That's not a valid argument on your part. If that's his opinion of the figure, that's his opinion.

2: recent times being from Generations to Combiner Wars. Generations/Combiner Wars is not a toyline about being direct remakes of G1 or about what fans want but a toyline of strong homages to Generation 1 and IDW and a nice treat to the dedicated fans in hopes they can slowly accept other things.

Is that an official Hasbro statement regarding the toy line? Or is it your opinion?

Also, Generations has been going for years now. Considering that, I agree with his statement of CW Prime's engineering and design being steps backwards compared to a vast majority of the Generations figures.

[Deadput]

That's not a valid argument on your part. If that's his opinion of the figure, that's his opinion.



Is that an official Hasbro statement regarding the toy line? Or is it your opinion?

Also, Generations has been going for years now. Considering that, I agree with his statement of CW Prime's engineering and design being steps backwards compared to a vast majority of the Generations figures.

1. Its his opinion but there is such thing as an opinion being wrong he said it doesn't look like a Transformer when thats not the case.



2. It's neither it's just obviously what the point of the line is from what me and others see (I have discussed this matter with other people so I'm not alone in this mindset)



3. Of course its not going to be the same standard as the past since nowadays Hasbro has multiple lines and there is not as much plastic as there used to be leading to cheap quality feeling toys and hollow parts but it doesn't mean that its going backwards its just more simple and less detailed.

[Rodimus Prime]

That's not a valid argument on your part. If that's his opinion of the figure, that's his opinion.



Is that an official Hasbro statement regarding the toy line? Or is it your opinion?

Also, Generations has been going for years now. Considering that, I agree with his statement of CW Prime's engineering and design being steps backwards compared to a vast majority of the Generations figures.

1. Its his opinion but there is such thing as an opinion being wrong he said it doesn't look like a Transformer when thats not the case.

OK, I can accept that. He did say it looked like a Power Ranger, and that's being a bit harsh.

2. It's neither it's just obviously what the point of the line is from what me and others see (I have discussed this matter with other people so I'm not alone in this mindset)

So it is just your opinion, that happens to be shared by others, including myself. However, that doesn't make it the official purpose of the line. It's just what we think it is.

...cheap quality feeling toys and hollow parts but it doesn't mean that its going backwards its just more simple and less detailed.

That's exactly what it means. It's regressing in quality, engineering and aesthetics. That's going backwards in every facet of a Transformer figure.

[NuclearConvoy]

So awesome!

[redoutlander]

Well they both look like good figures to me! I'm still not 100% sure what my Superion will look like though. I've had mix feelings about Alpha Bravo. I like having a non jet and the name is cool but Alpha's body is too long and a triple tail section is just too much (I'm a aircraft mechanic and it drives me crazy how wrong that is). That said he has grown on me. So I'll look around for Quickslinger but won't be mad if I miss out.

[Ironhidensh]

I'm so glad I didn't break down and pull the trigger on Alpha Bravo now! My Superion will have real airiel bots now!

[Deadput]

That's exactly what it means. It's regressing in quality, engineering and aesthetics. That's going backwards in every facet of a Transformer figure.

Being less detailed is not going backwards.


We don't need unnecessary detail as as the toy is good and fun to play/pose with.

[Deadput]

I'm so glad I didn't break down and pull the trigger on Alpha Bravo now! My Superion will have real airiel bots now!

There always was real Aerialbots that just happened to have a couple of new members.



New members is always a good thing.

[Editor]

I hate taxes I feel that the governments are raising the prices of everything on purpose so they can control everyone or else they go homeless.


Really hate life outside of my house.

If we were talking gas, smoke, booze, property values, i'd be right with you in blaming Ottawa but it's not the government on this one my friend. This is a direct result of the Canadian economy take a hit against the US greenback. This is both in part to the drop in the price of oil (Alberta will take the brunt of this) and the recent gains made by the American economy against the Asian and European markets.

[Thadicon]

So awesome!

Second that

I cant wait for these to come out

[Deadput]

I hate taxes I feel that the governments are raising the prices of everything on purpose so they can control everyone or else they go homeless.


Really hate life outside of my house.

If we were talking gas, smoke, booze, property values, i'd be right with you in blaming Ottawa but it's not the government on this one my friend. This is a direct result of the Canadian economy take a hit against the US greenback. This is both in part to the drop in the price of oil (Alberta will take the brunt of this) and the recent gains made by the American economy against the Asian and European markets.

Thank you for correcting me I use Government because I did not know which was the accurate description so I used what I thought was close enough.

[OptimalOptimus2]

They don't look special at all.

[King Kuuga]

They don't look special at all.

What were you expecting? Figures that outstripped everything else in the line?

[Nemesis Maximo]

They don't look special at all.

Your face doesn't look special at all.

[steve2275]

They don't look special at all.

i feel the same way towards that movie hot shot
http://static.seibertron.com/images/toy ... wave2a.jpg
shame he costs 3 dollars less

[Thadicon]

One thing I am disappointed about is Wildrider is stuck with that stupid exhaust pipe weapon. I guess it means hasbro doesnt have to change the plastic clamshell molding though.

[Rodimus Prime]

That's exactly what it means. It's regressing in quality, engineering and aesthetics. That's going backwards in every facet of a Transformer figure.

Being less detailed is not going backwards. We don't need unnecessary detail as as the toy is good and fun to play/pose with.

Once again, a matter of opinion. On this, mine differs from yours.

[Deadput]

That's exactly what it means. It's regressing in quality, engineering and aesthetics. That's going backwards in every facet of a Transformer figure.

Being less detailed is not going backwards. We don't need unnecessary detail as as the toy is good and fun to play/pose with.

Once again, a matter of opinion. On this, mine differs from yours.

Fair enough Rodimus I respect your opinion and shall drop the subject good conversation its nice to hear different opinions (even when some make me feel frustrated)


You have a great day sir.

[Rodimus Prime]

That's exactly what it means. It's regressing in quality, engineering and aesthetics. That's going backwards in every facet of a Transformer figure.

Being less detailed is not going backwards. We don't need unnecessary detail as as the toy is good and fun to play/pose with.

Once again, a matter of opinion. On this, mine differs from yours.

Fair enough Rodimus I respect your opinion and shall drop the subject good conversation its nice to hear different opinions (even when some make me feel frustrated) You have a great day sir.

I'm so glad I didn't break down and pull the trigger on Alpha Bravo now! My Superion will have real Aerialbots now!

I never once had even a temptation to buy that impostor, but I am happy we're getting all 5 real members of Superion.

On a different note, I may have missed this, but if Groove isn't a part of Defensor anymore, who is replacing him?

[Burn]

They don't look special at all.

Your face doesn't look special at all.

[Deadput]

The one and only special face.

[Autobot032]

I think I might buy Offroad, as well. Give him Wildrider's head and call it done. For some reason, I can deal with Silverbolt being a deco with a new head, but Wildrider's different. I think it's because his mold is already being used two other times before he even comes out.

And seriously, mix and match some parts or something, more than just a straight up repaint. *sighs*

[Tsutsukakushi]

Twelve years ago some fans complained that the Energon Maximus Combiners had duplicate team members.

[Burn]

:lol: Twelve years ago some fans complained that the Energon Maximus Combiners had duplicate team members.

In all fairness, we also complained about their stupid hands.