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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:34 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:Are you being condescending or serious because I honestly can't tell..


Condescending in the first part but honest in the last. I am news staff, if you guys judge this to be actual news, I will news it. But before I must know what you guys find new about this because I don't see anything I didnt see back at Botcon.


Ah gotcha in all honesty I'd be fine with this recolored torso if it wasn't a solid color and if the head was even the slightest bit remolded. But if all this beta test stuff is true then we should be getting a better scattershot down the road. I just wonder why they wouldn't do it right once and be done with it.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:44 pm

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Ah gotcha in all honesty I'd be fine with this recolored torso if it wasn't a solid color and if the head was even the slightest bit remolded. But if all this beta test stuff is true then we should be getting a better scattershot down the road. I just wonder why they wouldn't do it right once and be done with it.


You have summed up exactly what the main issue here is. I am just as confused as you and it is very frustrating. If this isn't really scattershot, what is the point?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:47 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:
Ah gotcha in all honesty I'd be fine with this recolored torso if it wasn't a solid color and if the head was even the slightest bit remolded. But if all this beta test stuff is true then we should be getting a better scattershot down the road. I just wonder why they wouldn't do it right once and be done with it.


You have summed up exactly what the main issue here is. I am just as confused as you and it is very frustrating. If this isn't really scattershot, what is the point?


This should seriously be a question to Hasbro at the New York comic con, if they don't clear anything up on their own.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:50 pm

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Here's a thought, what if this is Betatron? What I mean is what we saw at SDCC and these prototypes is it. When the figure is released at retail it'll be a fully retooled mold with a new head for the Technobots. Betatron is just a name for the prototype.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:54 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Here's a thought, what if this is Betatron? What I mean is what we saw at SDCC and these prototypes is it. When the figure is released at retail it'll be a fully retooled mold with a new head for the Technobots. Betatron is just a name for the prototype.


Hmm I like the way you think. I'm not sure how likely it is but it could certainly be a possibility.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby albnok » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:54 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Once you realize how to lock Hot Spot's legs into place the figure is a lot of fun. Unfortunately the torso mode developed the "Combiner Lean" faster than Prime, Silverbolt, and Motormaster.


I love Hot Spot, just hate how he doesn't lock in especially his right leg in torso mode. What are you doing differently? The left leg pegs in fine - where the black tab on the thigh slots into the light blue slot on the calf.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Zeedust » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:58 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:Ah gotcha in all honesty I'd be fine with this recolored torso if it wasn't a solid color and if the head was even the slightest bit remolded. But if all this beta test stuff is true then we should be getting a better scattershot down the road. I just wonder why they wouldn't do it right once and be done with it.


I'd settle for the head being recolored. They seem to have gone out of their way to make it identical to Superion.

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I know I'm a little late, but I like the protectobots. But if you get them, do yourself a favor and GET ROOK, he's great and people seem to be skipping him left and right because he's a new guy.

Sabrblade wrote:And Underbite doesn't have wings.

And with how different Sky Lynx is from Underbite, Underbite would be best getting his own mold for such an endeavor.

I know it's wrong, but I just want something other than the griffin. Even if I have to grasp at straws. I don't care if it actually looks any more like Underbite than the most of the figures from Machine Wars resemble the traditional portrayal of their characters.

I just feel like getting a toy of the griffon will be he point at which it's official that nothing outside of the G1 cartoon is allowed to matter (other than the Bay movies, and those only while their release is still relatively recent) and those of us who prefer Beast Wars or whatever should pack up and go home.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Bradimus » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:38 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:And Underbite doesn't have wings.

And with how different Sky Lynx is from Underbite, Underbite would be best getting his own mold for such an endeavor.

I know it's wrong, but I just want something other than the griffin. Even if I have to grasp at straws. I don't care if it actually looks any more like Underbite than the most of the figures from Machine Wars resemble the traditional portrayal of their characters.

I just feel like getting a toy of the griffon will be he point at which it's official that nothing outside of the G1 cartoon is allowed to matter (other than the Bay movies, and those only while their release is still relatively recent) and those of us who prefer Beast Wars or whatever should pack up and go home.


I guess you missed the Hatchet discussion. :???:



Edit: Oh, wait, never mind. You want something outside the film, too...

I feel for you regarding Beast Wars, except we just got some for Thrilling 30.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:41 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Ah gotcha in all honesty I'd be fine with this recolored torso if it wasn't a solid color and if the head was even the slightest bit remolded. But if all this beta test stuff is true then we should be getting a better scattershot down the road. I just wonder why they wouldn't do it right once and be done with it.


You have summed up exactly what the main issue here is. I am just as confused as you and it is very frustrating. If this isn't really scattershot, what is the point?


This should seriously be a question to Hasbro at the New York comic con, if they don't clear anything up on their own.


I'd say it could be fiction related - i.e. to the comics, or the show that this is based on coming out, but that's a little too gimmicky. It could be that this is a temporary name, or it could be to see if we really want technobot limbs, or, I dunno;

This definitely needs to be asked at the upcoming toy fair, along with what they plan the boxsets to be (mass retail, or christmas/store exclusive)

All they'd really need to do at this point, it remold the combiner chestplate, the sternum of the jet, and the front half of the combiner head, so it doesn't look like a superion clone.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:42 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Once you realize how to lock Hot Spot's legs into place the figure is a lot of fun. Unfortunately the torso mode developed the "Combiner Lean" faster than Prime, Silverbolt, and Motormaster.


I love Hot Spot, just hate how he doesn't lock in especially his right leg in torso mode. What are you doing differently? The left leg pegs in fine - where the black tab on the thigh slots into the light blue slot on the calf.


The legs are iffy on mine for torso mode too. It seems like the plastic is a little warped.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:42 pm

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Bradimus wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:And Underbite doesn't have wings.

And with how different Sky Lynx is from Underbite, Underbite would be best getting his own mold for such an endeavor.

I know it's wrong, but I just want something other than the griffin. Even if I have to grasp at straws. I don't care if it actually looks any more like Underbite than the most of the figures from Machine Wars resemble the traditional portrayal of their characters.

I just feel like getting a toy of the griffon will be he point at which it's official that nothing outside of the G1 cartoon is allowed to matter (other than the Bay movies, and those only while their release is still relatively recent) and those of us who prefer Beast Wars or whatever should pack up and go home.


I guess you missed the Hatchet discussion. :???:



Edit: Oh, wait, never mind. You want something outside the film, too...

I feel for you regarding Beast Wars, except we just got some for Thrilling 30.


Yeah, but it's been nothing but variations of G1 for the last half decade or so; it kinda wears thin after a while >:oP
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More Image Leaks Of Combiner Wars Bruticus And Betatron

Postby Autobot032 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:43 pm

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Earlier today, we reported on a set of images taken of a leaked test shot of the upcoming Scattershot remold of the Combiner Wars Voyager Class Silverbolt mold and we have an update to share with you, courtesy of fellow fan and collector Daim Choc, who obtained these images through ACToys.

Not only do we get to see more of Scattershot (this time in Betatron torso mode) but we also get to see more detail on the Onslaught remold of Hot Spot, more specifically the Bruticus torso mode. (To see the rest of Onslaught and a sneak peek of Brawl, click here to read our previous news report on that leak.)

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Combiner Wars Voyager Class Silverbolt (And Superion)
Combiner Wars Voyager Class Hot Spot (And Defensor)

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:56 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Bradimus » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:03 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Bradimus wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:And Underbite doesn't have wings.

And with how different Sky Lynx is from Underbite, Underbite would be best getting his own mold for such an endeavor.

I know it's wrong, but I just want something other than the griffin. Even if I have to grasp at straws. I don't care if it actually looks any more like Underbite than the most of the figures from Machine Wars resemble the traditional portrayal of their characters.

I just feel like getting a toy of the griffon will be he point at which it's official that nothing outside of the G1 cartoon is allowed to matter (other than the Bay movies, and those only while their release is still relatively recent) and those of us who prefer Beast Wars or whatever should pack up and go home.


I guess you missed the Hatchet discussion. :???:



Edit: Oh, wait, never mind. You want something outside the film, too...

I feel for you regarding Beast Wars, except we just got some for Thrilling 30.


Yeah, but it's been nothing but variations of G1 for the last half decade or so; it kinda wears thin after a while >:oP


Don't I know it... Not that I'm complaining, I grew up on G1. But I don't need the CW version of the Ark characters.

I do want Fire Convoy, aka RID Optimus Prime. I'd also be interested in RID related limb retools that allow him to form Omega Prime. But even without them just having RID Optimus/Omega Prime would be very cool.

I grabbed Armada Starscream, and wish the other primary seekers were released in that mold. Too bad Skywarp is an exclusive. I would pick up the power up version as Thundercracker if Hasbro releases that here. I don't have TC in my collection (no Skywarp, either). I wish the Leader Jetfire mold was downsized to Voyager for the Seekers. Then I'd have gone in for all three.

While it doesn't interest me we did get Armada Megatron, and he's more than available around the world, if that counts for something.

Back in TF Prime we got Hot Shot. I picked him up instead of BB and I really like the toy.

Hasbro needs to bring over Takara Blackarachania. If they don't it's a crime.

Truth is, there are some BW figures that have molds that hold up to modern standards (in part because standards have dropped a bit), but Cheator needs a better mold already. That head should not stick out that far from his chest. And Tigatron is obvious.

I'd love to see a number of Japanese TF figures brought into the 21st century, but kids know nothing about them because the cartoons were never brought over proper. I'm talking dubbing them and showing them on TV, not releasing subs for collectors (though I'm glad they finally did that for Headmasters).

I think Generations has attached itself too tightly to IDW right now, and that has become a problem for non G1 characters. Generations is supposed to be inclusive of all generations of Transformers and Hasbro has clearly forgotten that statement they made way back when they marketed the line. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:13 pm

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Taking a deep breathe............Hasbro/TT(?), I do hope you are insulting your rabid fans by just releasing a lazy partial retool of Scattershot? At least go the distance and give his Supermode head a new sculpt.

You did it for Bruticus so why not Scattershot?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:24 pm

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Bradimus wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Bradimus wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:And Underbite doesn't have wings.

And with how different Sky Lynx is from Underbite, Underbite would be best getting his own mold for such an endeavor.

I know it's wrong, but I just want something other than the griffin. Even if I have to grasp at straws. I don't care if it actually looks any more like Underbite than the most of the figures from Machine Wars resemble the traditional portrayal of their characters.

I just feel like getting a toy of the griffon will be he point at which it's official that nothing outside of the G1 cartoon is allowed to matter (other than the Bay movies, and those only while their release is still relatively recent) and those of us who prefer Beast Wars or whatever should pack up and go home.


I guess you missed the Hatchet discussion. :???:



Edit: Oh, wait, never mind. You want something outside the film, too...

I feel for you regarding Beast Wars, except we just got some for Thrilling 30.


Yeah, but it's been nothing but variations of G1 for the last half decade or so; it kinda wears thin after a while >:oP


Don't I know it... Not that I'm complaining, I grew up on G1. But I don't need the CW version of the Ark characters.

I do want Fire Convoy, aka RID Optimus Prime. I'd also be interested in RID related limb retools that allow him to form Omega Prime. But even without them just having RID Optimus/Omega Prime would be very cool.

I grabbed Armada Starscream, and wish the other primary seekers were released in that mold. Too bad Skywarp is an exclusive. I would pick up the power up version as Thundercracker if Hasbro releases that here. I don't have TC in my collection (no Skywarp, either). I wish the Leader Jetfire mold was downsized to Voyager for the Seekers. Then I'd have gone in for all three.

While it doesn't interest me we did get Armada Megatron, and he's more than available around the world, if that counts for something.

Back in TF Prime we got Hot Shot. I picked him up instead of BB and I really like the toy.

Hasbro needs to bring over Takara Blackarachania. If they don't it's a crime.

Truth is, there are some BW figures that have molds that hold up to modern standards (in part because standards have dropped a bit), but Cheator needs a better mold already. That head should not stick out that far from his chest. And Tigatron is obvious.

I'd love to see a number of Japanese TF figures brought into the 21st century, but kids know nothing about them because the cartoons were never brought over proper. I'm talking dubbing them and showing them on TV, not releasing subs for collectors (though I'm glad they finally did that for Headmasters).

I think Generations has attached itself too tightly to IDW right now, and that has become a problem for non G1 characters. Generations is supposed to be inclusive of all generations of Transformers and Hasbro has clearly forgotten that statement they made way back when they marketed the line. :BANG_HEAD:


Which is why I had mentioned that I would really just like a Universe 2.0. With old figs from everything: G1 Liokaiser, leo convoy, bw neo/II, arm/ener/cyb, rid car brothers/ o/p/ magnus (where's a new x-brawn when you need one, I liked his character), all the good stuff. It's kinda why I like TT tav right now, they're mixing a bunch of stuff they never (I think) got into one line, and then giving them snazzy new paint schemes.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:27 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Taking a deep breathe............Hasbro/TT(?), I do hope you are insulting your rabid fans by just releasing a lazy partial retool of Scattershot? At least go the distance and give his Supermode head a new sculpt.

You did it for Bruticus so why not Scattershot?


Yeah, at least if they were toy accurate (had a mouth) it wouldn't be so bad, but they went and gave superion a mouthplate, and now computron looks very superion-ish :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot032 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:35 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Aren't we all?

We really are. I like Superion having a face mask, but i would like Computron to have a mouth. would really help distinguish the 2 :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:51 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Still waiting on a good Computron :BOT:


Aren't we all?

We really are. I like Superion having a face mask, but i would like Computron to have a mouth. would really help distinguish the 2 :BOT:


Eh; if it had come down to it, I'd rather have that hatchet/skylynx combiner instead >:oP


Would still prefer a :CON: combiner instead.
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Postby Burn » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:52 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Taking a deep breathe............Hasbro/TT(?), I do hope you are insulting your rabid fans by just releasing a lazy partial retool of Scattershot? At least go the distance and give his Supermode head a new sculpt.

You did it for Bruticus so why not Scattershot?


It is a very good question. Makes me think that they really have no plans for Technobot limbs and that he'll just be another Cyclonus. A torso with no "official" limbs.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:56 pm

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Burn wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Taking a deep breathe............Hasbro/TT(?), I do hope you are insulting your rabid fans by just releasing a lazy partial retool of Scattershot? At least go the distance and give his Supermode head a new sculpt.

You did it for Bruticus so why not Scattershot?


It is a very good question. Makes me think that they really have no plans for Technobot limbs and that he'll just be another Cyclonus. A torso with no "official" limbs.
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IF it is true, it would seem to be a rather giant middle finger to all the G1'ers here :BOOM:
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fenrir72 wrote:Taking a deep breathe............Hasbro/TT(?), I do hope you are insulting your rabid fans by just releasing a lazy partial retool of Scattershot? At least go the distance and give his Supermode head a new sculpt.

You did it for Bruticus so why not Scattershot?


It is a very good question. Makes me think that they really have no plans for Technobot limbs and that he'll just be another Cyclonus. A torso with no "official" limbs.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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IF it is true, it would seem to be a rather giant middle finger to all the G1'ers here :BOOM:


Speaking of G1, even though I was born in 88, I find that G1 scattershot alt mode really cool looking. I much preffer that bulky cannon/cockpit that makes up the ship rather than just have a long narrow cockpit which seems very much apart from the rest of the ship.
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Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:07 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Taking a deep breathe............Hasbro/TT(?), I do hope you are insulting your rabid fans by just releasing a lazy partial retool of Scattershot? At least go the distance and give his Supermode head a new sculpt.

You did it for Bruticus so why not Scattershot?


It is a very good question. Makes me think that they really have no plans for Technobot limbs and that he'll just be another Cyclonus. A torso with no "official" limbs.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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IF it is true, it would seem to be a rather giant middle finger to all the G1'ers here :BOOM:


Speaking of G1, even though I was born in 88, I find that G1 scattershot alt mode really cool looking. I much preffer that bulky cannon/cockpit that makes up the ship rather than just have a long narrow cockpit which seems very much apart from the rest of the ship.


Yeah, I've messed with it, it is pretty cool, it had a sorta w.m.d. feel about it, or something that would be in star wars (a cockpit on a giant cannon)

And, ya know? I was thinking that the silverbolt legs actually help enhance his resemblance to his G1 incarnation, that breeze block undercarriage is finally pulling it's own weight.
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Sabrblade wrote:And Underbite doesn't have wings.

And with how different Sky Lynx is from Underbite, Underbite would be best getting his own mold for such an endeavor.

I know it's wrong, but I just want something other than the griffin. Even if I have to grasp at straws. I don't care if it actually looks any more like Underbite than the most of the figures from Machine Wars resemble the traditional portrayal of their characters.

I just feel like getting a toy of the griffon will be he point at which it's official that nothing outside of the G1 cartoon is allowed to matter (other than the Bay movies, and those only while their release is still relatively recent) and those of us who prefer Beast Wars or whatever should pack up and go home.


I guess you missed the Hatchet discussion. :???:



Edit: Oh, wait, never mind. You want something outside the film, too...

I feel for you regarding Beast Wars, except we just got some for Thrilling 30.



Not thrilled with Hatchet, but could live with it.

And yeah, we got all of three Beast Wars figures in a 30th anniversary celebrating the history of the franchise with almost entirely G1 guys. Four if you count the legends Starscream/Waspinator set. Which is admittedly better acknowledgement than anything after Armada got.

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I feel for you regarding Beast Wars, except we just got some for Thrilling 30.


Yeah, but it's been nothing but variations of G1 for the last half decade or so; it kinda wears thin after a while >:oP


And on and off before that, going back all the way to Alternators, and even a few popping up prior to that in Armada.
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