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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby wetwithwaterwings » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:57 am

As a big fan of Chris Bachalo's art on X-Men, I'm loving Milne's cover nod. Plus the throwback of "everything is fine" which was the introductory quote of Tailgate's when he fell into the pit on his way to the Ark early in series.

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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Full Preview

Postby Va'al » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:56 am

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Next up in terms of previews from IDW Publishing, Everything Is Fine. We swear. Don't believe us? Read the full preview for Transformers: More than Meets the Eye #35 below, then, and see what is happening in Cybertron's past. Then come back later this week for the Seibertron.com review. Which will be fine. Everything is.

Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35: Days of Deception
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Days of Deception begins with… PEACE AND HAPPINESS! To be honest, there's not much we can say about this issue without giving away the life-changing events of last issue. What we can say is this: everything’s fine. There’s no conflict, no sadness, no angst. Why is this a problem?
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The fires of change drag CYBERTRON’s darkest secrets to light. Heroes become villains, enemies become allies, life becomes death… and history's revelations may tear the AUTOBOTS apart.


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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:18 am

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Poor energon jetfire...I wonder if normal jetfire knew him ;)
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:18 am

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Whoops, double post.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Gallifreyan Autobot » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:52 am

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Wow Energon Jetfire just got bodied and straight up killed just for the guy off that ones back
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby prjkt » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:40 am

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Woah, so this is basically what Cybertron would be had Megatron not risen up...

More and more I'm thinking Megatron had the right idea to begin with, and that Whirl definitely f*cked things up big time
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:55 am

I hate this so much. It doesn't make any sense. What's the point? We already know by February's solicits that this alternate timeline won't stick, not to mention RIDs story not being affected.

Also this Cybertron shouldn't even exist if the the war never happened than no one would've stopped Nova Prime and the Dead Universe in the -ation series. The expansion would have happened! This is why I can't stand stories like this. More padding for Roberts to avoid the quest.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Peridot » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:01 am

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What's with all the Unicron Trilogy guys in the background?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:28 am

Metro Prime wrote:What's with all the Unicron Trilogy guys in the background?


That's another thing! What's the deal with that?! I can back up Rhinox, rattrap, waspinator because deep down those are G1 characters. Almost all beast wars continuities are in a g1 timeframe. Energon Prowl, ironhide, cyclonus? Those are alternate universe characters! Not to mention energon jetfire and Cybertron jetfire...THATS THE SAME CHARACTER!

Not looking forward to this...
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Peridot » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:58 am

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Randomhero wrote:
Metro Prime wrote:What's with all the Unicron Trilogy guys in the background?


That's another thing! What's the deal with that?! I can back up Rhinox, rattrap, waspinator because deep down those are G1 characters. Almost all beast wars continuities are in a g1 timeframe. Energon Prowl, ironhide, cyclonus? Those are alternate universe characters! Not to mention energon jetfire and Cybertron jetfire...THATS THE SAME CHARACTER!

Not looking forward to this...

They probably aren't meant to represent the Unicron Trilogy characters proper. They're just generics that use their character models.
Why do you keep getting mad, anyways? Seriously. Calm down, it's just a comic.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:19 am

Because those arnt generics they're actual characters with history.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:22 am

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Metro Prime wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Metro Prime wrote:What's with all the Unicron Trilogy guys in the background?


That's another thing! What's the deal with that?! I can back up Rhinox, rattrap, waspinator because deep down those are G1 characters. Almost all beast wars continuities are in a g1 timeframe. Energon Prowl, ironhide, cyclonus? Those are alternate universe characters! Not to mention energon jetfire and Cybertron jetfire...THATS THE SAME CHARACTER!

Not looking forward to this...

They probably aren't meant to represent the Unicron Trilogy characters proper. They're just generics that use their character models.
Why do you keep getting mad, anyways? Seriously. Calm down, it's just a comic.

I agree with metro prime, these are just fan nods, I mean would energon jetfire really run away like that?

Also did miss the part were this was said to be the present? I thought this was just a flash back.

Now about the part were you think you know what's going to happen because of the previews...So what? That's the same for every comic. You have a choice not to read the previews. Did you kick off when you read about the previews for dawn of the Autobots when dark cybertron hadn't finished yet?

Also the part about them not being G1 characters...Cy-kill from go bots was in Megatron origins ;) and also Jihaxus who came from G2. Then there's all the new characters who aren't from G1 because they were created by the writers of this new series. Like Drift (who then appeared in Age of Extinction), Tryest and I could go on. Plus there's all the non-G1 events that go on. Chiefly Megatron being an Autobot. I don't understand why you have an issue with UT characters but things like that are fine?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:30 am

Because we already have those characters. There's already a prowl, cyclonus, ironhide and jetfire in this IDW universe. Now for the sake of this excuse of a story there are 3 maybe 4 jetfires for the sake of filling a background for no reason. That's dumb. You can do that with a character like Jhiaxus because he was introduced as Jhiaxus. You can't just throw energon Ironhide and Prowl when we have a G1 ironhide and prowl in this universe. That's dumb. And im not going to accept "all the good names are taken" I didn't have time for that in issue 5 of MTMTE then and I don't 30 issues later.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:10 am

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I'm not sure I follow but the situation with Jihaxus is the same with these throw away background characters. The other jihaxus' s aren't like this version in fact to my knowledge there's three versions of the character, each with their own history. Regeneration 1 Jihaxus, Generation 2 Jihaxus and IDW Jihaxus. Now isn't that the same scenario as you are complaining about?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:06 pm

No because G2 Jhiaxus isn't in this scene. If he was then that would be the problem because we already have a Jhiaxus. I am fine with the reinventing characters, it's using characters from other universes that already have a counterpart in the existing universe. Like using energon jetfire in a universe where we already have a jetfire. That's my problem.

Here's an example, let's use Star Trek. Kirk and Spock are walking and in the background is evil Spock and evil Kirk from the mirror universe. They're not part of the story, it's not something that will return it's just an Easter egg.

That's what I'm talking about. You can't just throw in characters that have existing counterparts for the sake if it.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby RevTibe » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:43 pm

Randomhero wrote:That's what I'm talking about. You can't just throw in characters that have existing counterparts for the sake if it.
Using old character models as generics happens plenty of times - Armada was a big fan of it.

Personally, I prefer using an existing toy design as generics over random redshirts - tends to give the scene more detail. Plus, it seems pretty obvious to me that these characters aren't "Ironhide" or "Jetfire", even if they have a similar body. I just think "Hey, I remember that guy from when I watched Energon, that's a fun little easter egg".
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:41 pm

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Right i got the wrong end of the stick with what i thought you were complaining about, so I apologise.

That being said your complaint still doesn't hold water for a simple reason...Tankor..remember him or them as i should say. Fat Tankor and Thin Tankor as seen in the recent windblade mini series.

Also you said before about beast wars/machines being g1? Well your half right as they are in a splinter g1 timeline, just like IDWs series does.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Coptur » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:04 am

I don't understand it when people grumble about other universe characters turning up in the IDW-verse it's always been that way live with it.

Also it has also been long established that more than one bot or con can have the same name. Prowl G1 & Prowl BW (renamed Dent), Tall Tankor & Fat Tankor etc...

Sky High from the original line is the first evidence that two different transformers can have the same name.

I'm happy to embrace all three Jetfire bodies within the unicron trilogy entering into the IDW-verse as new characters.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:06 am

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Where was bw prowl?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:06 am

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Where was bw prowl?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby Coptur » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:43 am

oops double post
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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Review

Postby Va'al » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:58 pm

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(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
Days of Deception begins with… PEACE AND HAPPINESS! To be honest, there's not much we can say about this issue without giving away the life-changing events of last issue. What we can say is this: everything’s fine. There’s no conflict, no sadness, no angst. Why is this a problem?

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..s fine


Story

Timelines have met each other and collapsed. Old friends and lovers are reunited, though something is obviously not quite right yet. Other friends and allies have revealed a different set of colours entirely. And as we explored some of the past events last issue, we delve once more in the days before the Decepticons were a thing - or do we?

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Ah, good old days


James Roberts' script is heavy. This is an issue that will require time to spend on reading, rather than a quick skim-through. The play on the different time settings is clearly marked, and cleverly linked, though that is not the critical part of the connection between the two, as what they have in common may in fact be diverging once more, but further away than expected.

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Megs channelling Roberts (and readers)


While in the present Megatron finally had a bit of a breakdown aboard the Lost Light, as the rest of the crew investigate Brainstorm's doings (and part of the yellow briefcase's secrets are sorta kinda revealed!), the past sees Rewind and Minimus Ambus dealing with Functionists, and the cunning and seditious Dominus Ambus himself.

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Understatement of the Year


Does something feel off yet? It seems like something is a little off. No? Make sure you read *everything* that takes place in the issue, as details are constantly changing, for what seems to be a very good reason indeed in the grand scheme of things, and the upcoming Elegant Chaos event in particular, for which this issue a prelude of sorts.


Art

Alex Milne and Brian Shearer, with the latter helping on inking duties, have some great visual fun, despite everything happening in the script as it already is. A lot of Unicron Trilogy body types have been spotted, without being subtle at all, already in the first couple of pages, and there may be a reason for all of it being there after all. Though character design does not stop at that, with some twisted ..er.. twists elsewhere, too.

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Plus a Dredd Bot


On top of the busy script and busy backgrounds, colourist Joana Lafuente clearly had a busy time coordinating all the multiples of the same type of Cybertronian, yet marking them as individual entities (much to the ruling classes' disappointment, one might guess). I am very impressed at the result, especially with the final product in hand.

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Where's..?


Tom B. Long keeps on keeping on with the fantastic letter work, making sure to maintain the space that Roberts does not leave to the art, and . The issue also comes with an excellent array of variant covers, on top of the ominous Milne/Josh Perez main one. In the thumbnail is the eerily appropriate Nick Roche/Josh Burcham Functionist, and make sure to keep an eye out for the Andrew Griffith 30th Anniversary special incentive art, too.


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

It's mind-bendy, it's space-bendy, it's time-bendy - it just pushes the envelope and watches it bend for most of the plotlines being teased up to this point, and some intriguing social commentary to boot. Out of all of this week's releases, this is the most dense and emotionally compromising, without any doubt, so be warned before you dive into it.

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Everything is fine


We vaguely know what has happened with the Functionist Council in the past. We've seen something of Brainstorm's character so far. We know what Rewind used to do in the days of Dominus Ambus, and the House of Ambus overall - be ready to have all of that questioned. Again. And again. Elegant Chaos is here.

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:41 pm

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Wait 5-?

Can't wait to get this tomorrow, may re-read everything up to now as well :D. Though what you said about the UT cameos makes it seem that armada Megatron will appear.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #35 Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:49 pm

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