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Postby Evil Eye » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:55 pm

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Uhh, Camiens aren't all female. (As far as I know, I've only read The Death of Optimus Prime thus far.)
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Postby Va'al » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:01 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:Uhh, Camiens aren't all female. (As far as I know, I've only read The Death of Optimus Prime thus far.)


If you're referring to Metro Prime's post, I think they were listing a number of excited points. :D
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby Nisus » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:04 pm

Ok, so am I safe to assume that MTMTE isn't involved in this?


*Nevermind. Just saw the list of issues that are going to be dealing with CW.
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Windblade Returns in Transformers: Combiner Wars - Another Interview with Scott And Barber

Postby Va'al » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:18 pm

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The second piece of news from Rachel Stevens of Women Write About Comics has some of a crossover with the CBR article we posted earlier, but offers some interesting additions and further developments to that interview, as Mairghread Scott and John Barber answer even more questions about the upcoming Combiner Wars event with IDW Publishing and where the two series - Windblade and The Transformers - will be going from there. Read more here, and some selected quotes below!


If you were to pitch the story to a new reader that hasn’t had the fortune of reading prior IDW Transformers comics, what is Combiner Wars and why should you be reading the current Transformers stories?

Mairghread Scott: Combiner Wars is about a world on the verge of imperial takeover. Cybertron has recently discovered one of a series of long lost colony worlds (this is where Windblade comes from), and they’re reaching out to them once more. But with the rise of the combiners, Cybertron (and more accurately Starscream) has military power no one’s ever seen before. He could easily turn these colonies into conquered worlds, creating a vast empire even Megatron never imagined.

John Barber: If you’ve never read Transformers, you probably wouldn’t guess what the IDW Transformers books are like. I mean, there’s a lot of action, yeah—and Combiner Wars definitely has some serious fighting—but a lot more personal interactions and political machinations go on than somebody might expect. I think word of mouth has spread about what we’re doing in these books, and hopefully something like Combiner Wars will give new readers a good place to take a look at this universe.

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What do you want to do after Combiner Wars? Windblade Returns has been confirmed to not just be a miniseries, but little more besides that has been stated.

MS: That’s by design. Actually, the comic is named Transformers: Windblade; “Windblade Returns” was just a title card put up to announce our comeback. And we haven’t said much about it because Combiner Wars is so linked in with Windblade’s story that saying too much could spoil this event. I will tell you one thing. There’s this old saying I keep thinking of as I write it: “God never gives you more than you can handle.” Windblade is a lot stronger than she was when we first introduced her, but that just means her problems have grown that much bigger with her. I want to believe that Windblade really can build a better future for Cybertron and Caminus. But, as a writer, it’s my job to push her as hard as possible and see if she actually does.

JB: The next set of issues of Transformers deals with the ramifications of what happens in Combiner Wars back on Earth, and the rest of our solar system. With the changes in CW, we’ll see Arcee taking on a new role, and get some good Cosmos stuff, finally. And see what happened to Kup when he was in the Dead Universe. Plus, somebody will return. I won’t say who.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:20 pm

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"There are Transformers who are inherently male and inherently female"


One of the most MORONIC statements I have ever heard from the lips of a human being in general. Robots do not have penises or vaginas, nor do they breed. This ideology just totally baffles me. Nothing more than an excuse to a) add tits to a robots to draw in teenage hormone machines and b) to try to insultingly draw in female Transformer fans for more revenue. Like they never liked the Transformers before Windblade was defecated out of the minds of "transformers fans".
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

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shockblast2 wrote:"There are Transformers who are inherently male and inherently female"


One of the most MORONIC statements I have ever heard from the lips of a human being in general. Robots do not have penises or vaginas, nor do they breed. This ideology just totally baffles me. Nothing more than an excuse to a) add tits to a robots to draw in teenage hormone machines and b) to try to insultingly draw in female Transformer fans for more revenue. Like they never liked the Transformers before Windblade was defecated out of the minds of "transformers fans".


Yeah, and why does Jazz sound black? Just hasblow appealing to the PC agenda; trying to force African Americans into the lime light; and exploit them when all he is; is a minstral show [-( (all of that is sarcasm BTWs)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby snavej » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:54 pm

The most inherent thing about Transformers is their ability to change their body shape, hence the name! It would be more natural for them to change their shape regularly so that they could appear male, female or something else altogether. Different shapes are useful for different activities. They might be seen as true 'gender benders'! It might seem weird to humans etc. but perfectly normal to Transformers. [Lou Reed's 'Transformer' album, anyone?!]
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:13 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:"There are Transformers who are inherently male and inherently female"


One of the most MORONIC statements I have ever heard from the lips of a human being in general. Robots do not have penises or vaginas, nor do they breed. This ideology just totally baffles me. Nothing more than an excuse to a) add tits to a robots to draw in teenage hormone machines and b) to try to insultingly draw in female Transformer fans for more revenue. Like they never liked the Transformers before Windblade was defecated out of the minds of "transformers fans".


Yeah, and why does Jazz sound black? Just hasblow appealing to the PC agenda; trying to force African Americans into the lime light; and exploit them when all he is; is a minstral show [-( (all of that is sarcasm BTWs)




Sound "black"?

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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby Evil Eye » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:15 pm

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You do know that Jazz was voiced by the very black Scatman Crothers, right?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:15 pm

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snavej wrote:The most inherent thing about Transformers is their ability to change their body shape, hence the name! It would be more natural for them to change their shape regularly so that they could appear male, female or something else altogether. Different shapes are useful for different activities. They might be seen as true 'gender benders'! It might seem weird to humans etc. but perfectly normal to Transformers. [Lou Reed's 'Transformer' album, anyone?!]



Transformers are combat robots. They would have no reason to appear to be male or female. So, it is more "natural" to try to be a certain gender to make yourself "blend in" even tough youa re a 15ft walking and talking robot??? :shock:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:18 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:You do know that Jazz was voiced by the very black Scatman Crothers, right?



They didn't pick him because he was black or because they thought he liked hip hop or something.........what in the hell???? "Very black"? WTF does that mean???

Some of you have some seriously effed up ideologies that are really based in racism. They chose Scatman because of his musical background and his voice. Nothing more.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby Evil Eye » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:20 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby snavej » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:24 pm

There are times when Transformers are not fighting. They do perform other tasks. In IDW, the main war is over but some battles continue.

Some Transformers can do 'mass shifting'. Nearly all Transformers are able to attach/detach parts and thus change size in a more conventional way.

With regard to gender, it has been shown that there are many gendered races in the same galaxy as the Transformers. Appearing male, female or other genders is possibly an attempt to curry favour with those races.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

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Delta Magnus wrote:You do know that Jazz was voiced by the very black Scatman Crothers, right?


And you did read the fine print at the bottom of his post saying that it was sarcasm, right?
He knows full well what he was getting at and who voiced Jazz?

shockblast2 wrote:"There are Transformers who are inherently male and inherently female"


One of the most MORONIC statements I have ever heard from the lips of a human being in general. Robots do not have penises or vaginas, nor do they breed. This ideology just totally baffles me. Nothing more than an excuse to a) add tits to a robots to draw in teenage hormone machines and b) to try to insultingly draw in female Transformer fans for more revenue. Like they never liked the Transformers before Windblade was defecated out of the minds of "transformers fans".


I can't wait to watch you get thrown into a pit with 50 trans-genders and get your ass kicked.
You so totally missed the point of what they were trying to say that it goes beyond pathetic.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby shockblast2 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:39 pm

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CrankyOldTruck wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:You do know that Jazz was voiced by the very black Scatman Crothers, right?


And you did read the fine print at the bottom of his post saying that it was sarcasm, right?
He knows full well what he was getting at and who voiced Jazz?

shockblast2 wrote:"There are Transformers who are inherently male and inherently female"


One of the most MORONIC statements I have ever heard from the lips of a human being in general. Robots do not have penises or vaginas, nor do they breed. This ideology just totally baffles me. Nothing more than an excuse to a) add tits to a robots to draw in teenage hormone machines and b) to try to insultingly draw in female Transformer fans for more revenue. Like they never liked the Transformers before Windblade was defecated out of the minds of "transformers fans".


I can't wait to watch you get thrown into a pit with 50 trans-genders and get your ass kicked.
You so totally missed the point of what they were trying to say that it goes beyond pathetic.
It's obvious that the only thing you are capable of comprehending is the pictures of Giant F'ing Robots blowing sh** up and that anything on a half-way adult level is incomprehensible



Yeah, like I would take anything you have to say with any sort of respect. The only time you show up here is to troll this site with your irrelevant rants about how much you hate current transformers. What sort of "point" is made by calling someone "very black" or saying they "sound black". That is racist. Period. There is no sort of glossing over or ridiculous point to be made by saying something like that.

You pop in on this site from time to time to rant like some teenage fan boy, being in your forties, and you call me pathetic? :lol:

Worry about yourself buddy. You obviously have serious issues. besides the fact you have some sort of sick obsession with trans genders, since I never mentioned anything about that. :-?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

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Another super racist shocker, Optimus Prime he sounds like a white guy from canada; i think that might be because, last time I checked; Peter Cullen is a white dude from Quebec :-$

Also trans gender people, or any person of the like, they people too.
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Postby That_Guy » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:42 pm

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Looking at the humanistic part of the storyline seems they're adding in topics that are running rampant today. Interesting to see another being mirror our current issues. Also noticed 13 colonies. Hmmmmmmm what started out as 13 colonies that had a large country gives orders from a far thag is currently having issues similar to cybertroon. Or am I reading too much into it? :-?
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Postby Evil Eye » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:58 pm

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CrankyOldTruck wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:You do know that Jazz was voiced by the very black Scatman Crothers, right?


And you did read the fine print at the bottom of his post saying that it was sarcasm, right?
He knows full well what he was getting at and who voiced Jazz?

I was responding to Shockblast actually.
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Postby shockblast2 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:05 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:Another super racist shocker, Optimus Prime he sounds like a white guy from canada; i think that might be because, last time I checked; Peter Cullen is a white dude from Quebec :-$

Also trans gender people, or any person of the like, they people too.




Again, trying to gloss over your ideology with silly comparisons will not hide the fact that you are making racist statements.
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SW's SilverHammer wrote:Another super racist shocker, Optimus Prime he sounds like a white guy from canada; i think that might be because, last time I checked; Peter Cullen is a white dude from Quebec :-$

Also trans gender people, or any person of the like, they people too.




Again, trying to gloss over your ideology with silly comparisons will not hide the fact that you are making racist statements.

A black guy sounds like a black guy; a white guy sounding like a white guy; and people are people. Look is it putting people in boxes? yeah; but it's true, the same way a mexican guy, likeums myself; sounds like a mexican guy.
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Postby Downbeat » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:17 pm

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God forbid the mechanical alien race that mostly consists of bipedal, humanoid robots with faces, four fingers and thumbs, have other characteristics just like humanity have gender, too.

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Postby Bounti76 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:25 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:"There are Transformers who are inherently male and inherently female"


One of the most MORONIC statements I have ever heard from the lips of a human being in general. Robots do not have penises or vaginas, nor do they breed. This ideology just totally baffles me. Nothing more than an excuse to a) add tits to a robots to draw in teenage hormone machines and b) to try to insultingly draw in female Transformer fans for more revenue. Like they never liked the Transformers before Windblade was defecated out of the minds of "transformers fans".


They (Transformers) don't have human sexual organs, that's true. But having several transgender friends, I can tell you, being inherently male or inherently female goes beyond what you have in your pants. Gender is not all about that. You can be biologically male but actually be female, and vice-versa. A big part of gender is who you see yourself AS, not about who you want to go to bed with (which is what sexuality is).

Debate aside, I'm excited to see more fembots and differently shaped Transformers rather than just the usual humanoids.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Combiner Wars - The Transformers and Windblade

Postby Randomhero » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:37 pm

All this complaining and yet the only thing I took from this whole interview is Scoop has the enigma of combination and has brought it to Starscream. Well now we know how issue 39 ends.
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