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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby ScottyP » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:21 am

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This is Combiner Wars we're talking about, so it'll be released as Skywarp first ;)
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby It Is Him » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:22 am

Holy cow! Hasbro had to have known what they were doing when they let the museum put this in their collection!
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Sigmus Prime » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:23 am

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As long as he's mis-transformed, this will be an automatic buy for me. I'm bummed if this means he won't be released using the Leader Thundercracker remold (not soon, anyways), but I do like the Voyager-class size.

He needs poseable fingers.
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Cobotron » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:37 am

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Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:38 am

I really, really like the Classic Seeker mould, but I gotta admit it's way too small next to Hegemon and the Autobots. I like this. It actually seems just about right. The right size with the right amount of G1 influence. And the Classics Seekers may not look totally stupid next to him.

I just might be down for seven of these (the main six + Sunstorm). But I'm not going crazy with making another Seeker army.

If the Seeekers are getting an upgrade in size I may need a new Voyager Soundwave (I've stuck with Music Label so far; it looks good next to Classics SS) ...
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Sigmus Prime » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:42 am

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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Va'al » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:43 am

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Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?


Why not Generations 2016? Standing next to Brainstorm on that display gives me the sense of a return to pre/post CW stuff. :-?
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby It Is Him » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:43 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I really, really like the Classic Seeker mould, but I gotta admit it's way too small next to Hegemon and the Autobots. I like this. It actually seems just about right. The right size with the right amount of G1 influence. And the Classics Seekers may not look totally stupid next to him.

I just might be down for seven of these (the main six + Sunstorm). But I'm not going crazy with making another Seeker army.

If the Seeekers are getting an upgrade in size I may need a new Voyager Soundwave (I've stuck with Music Label so far; it looks good next to Classics SS) ...


FOC Soundwave is used in the comic books. Easily my favorite Generations mold.
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Cobotron » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:45 am

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Va'al wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?


Why not Generations 2016? Standing next to Brainstorm on that display gives me the sense of a return to pre/post CW stuff. :-?
Don't know. Just a hunch. character design looks more like the new RID stuff. He looks very simple. His feet are static.
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Va'al » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:49 am

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Cobotron wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?


Why not Generations 2016? Standing next to Brainstorm on that display gives me the sense of a return to pre/post CW stuff. :-?
Don't know. Just a hunch. character design looks more like the new RID stuff. He looks very simple. His feet are static.


I don't think we've heard of Starscream showing up in RID, though.
We know Jazz and Drift will, but I think that's about it. :-?
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Sigmus Prime » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:51 am

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No, this looks way too close to his comic book counterpart for it to be from the RID toyline.
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:54 am

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Are you sure we are talking Combiner Wars here? As in that they actually combine with other figures? I've looked at that Starscream closely, and I see no possible ports anywhere. In fact, I dont see any knee joints, the legs are one solid piece. This leads me to believe that it's an upsized simplified figure, among the likes of Beast Hunters Deluxe Twinstrike and Windrazor. As for "Prowl": Same story, it's a retool of Beast Hunters Simplified Deluxe Smokscreen.

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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Sigmus Prime » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:56 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Are you sure we are talking Combiner Wars here? As in that they actually combine with other figures? I've looked at that Starscream closely, and I see no possible ports anywhere. In fact, I dont see any knee joints, the legs are one solid piece. This leads me to believe that it's an upsized simplified figure, among the likes of Beast Hunters Deluxe Twinstrike and Windrazor. As for "Prowl": Same story, it's a retool of Beast Hunters Simplified Deluxe Smokscreen.

Sorry guys...


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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Va'al » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:57 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Are you sure we are talking Combiner Wars here? As in that they actually combine with other figures? I've looked at that Starscream closely, and I see no possible ports anywhere. In fact, I dont see any knee joints, the legs are one solid piece. This leads me to believe that it's an upsized simplified figure, among the likes of Beast Hunters Deluxe Twinstrike and Windrazor. As for "Prowl": Same story, it's a retool of Beast Hunters Simplified Deluxe Smokscreen.

Sorry guys...


It's why I'm marking all of these as rumours. :D
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby ScottyP » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:04 am

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The engineering on this makes it look like a CW deluxe. Protos are sometimes oversized perhaps? Could also be an incomplete/canned idea. Hooray for speculation?
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Va'al » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:10 am

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ScottyP wrote:The engineering on this makes it look like a CW deluxe. Protos are sometimes oversized perhaps? Could also be an incomplete/canned idea. Hooray for speculation?


Maybe an upscaled Legends toy?

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I'm not sure to what extent prototypes are that much bigger than the final result, to be honest. Not the ones I've seen, at least. :-?
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:10 am

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Looking at Starscream again, I think I've identified the "parent" mold of this toy:

Generations Legends Starscream
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The transformation matches, and aside from lack of proper knee joints, the addition of missile pods and a blockier design, it's that toy "upsized".

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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:13 am

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Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?


Combinrs Wars Leaders are not combiners so it's not far fetched that this guy is not.

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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Sigmus Prime » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:28 am

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Okay, I want my Leader-class Starscream right now.
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:32 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?


Combinrs Wars Leaders are not combiners so it's not far fetched that this guy is not.


That prototype is Voyager-sized...
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:34 am

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Starscream appears to be in mid-transformation. I'm guessing those are his wings by his waist. :-?
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby Moosey » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:34 am

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I don't have an opinion till they share more. For all we know, this could just be an example of how they make toys, showing kids the process of prototypes, sculpting, final product, etc... (this is at that children's museum, right?)
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Re: Starscream Speculations: TRU Masterpiece, CW Leader, Voyager

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:36 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?


Combinrs Wars Leaders are not combiners so it's not far fetched that this guy is not.


That prototype is Voyager-sized...


I know. I should have added that voyeger combiner wars figures are a thing. Just take a look a cyclonus, remold/repaint of Brainstorm.
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