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Paramount Transformers Universe Writers' Room Adds Steven DeKnight

Postby Va'al » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:21 am

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A final final update on Akiva Goldsman's writers' room for the Paramount Transformers cinematic Universe comes once more from Deadline, reporting the addition of another writer to the pool: Steven DeKnight, creator of the Spartacus TV series, and showrunner for the recent Marvel Daredevil.

There are also misreadings being posted online claiming that we are about to see at least ten new Transformers films. According to the interview with Goldsman, which we reported here, and can be found in full on Deadline here, the trust will pitch more or less a script each, making it 12 potential stories that Paramount, Michael Bay and producers can (not will) develop into the continuation of the live-action franchise. But what about you? What would you like to see on the screen? Read through the articles, and let us know your thoughts in the Energon Pub!

EXCLUSIVE: Paramount Pictures, Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg and Hasbro started its writers room to hatch Transformers sequels, spinoffs and prequels, and they’ve added the final member of the brain trust. It’s Steven DeKnight, creator of the Starz series Spartacus, and the showrunner on the first season of Marvel’s Daredevil for Netflix.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby King Kuuga » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:50 am

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MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:NEWS

At least 12 movies penned for the TFMU
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0189043094


Yeah, no. Sigh.

Let's get an actual source, shall we..?

It's roundabout, but that Facebook page directed to a TFW article which linked to a Forbes piece which was quoting from the Deadline interview.

So it's linkception, basically.

Va'al wrote:According to the interview with Goldsman, which we reported here, and can be found in full on Deadline [url]0http://deadline.com/2015/06/transformers-akiva-goldsman-writers-room-michael-bay-paramount-1201438017/here[/url], the trust will pitch more or less a script each, making it 12 potential stories that Paramount, Michael Bay and producers can (not will) develop into the continuation of the live-action franchise.

Also, Va'al, you bungled the code a bit here. Friendly heads-up. :)
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Va'al » Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:09 am

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Yep, fixed, thanks. :D

And yes, that Forbes piece (opinion based on the Deadline article) was a little misleading, as the entire TFverse in movie sites have picked it up as TEN NEW FILMS. I knew I'd seen those words by Goldsman before, I'm glad I triple checked before posting that SIXTEEN NEW FILMS will be coming out.

But hey, now the internet is abuzz, and I'll keep getting notifications of the TWENTYSEVEN NEW FILMS.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Noideaforaname » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:02 am

Forbes is totally legit, guys! They only post quality news!
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But really, thanks for not jumping on the ELEVENTY NEW MOVIES bandwagon, Va'al/Seibertron.


reminds me of when a certain other site reported "Beast Hunters" as a confirmed Beast Wars sequel
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Deadput » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:42 am

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joevill wrote:I want to see a live action remake of the original movie.




Why?



It would be boring to make the same thing but in live action and would probably be worse then the original (admit it the movie turned boring after Optimus died and they left Earth)



An HD remaster would be good just redo the animation into modern Animation and maybe add in some scenes that got in cut such as Mirage and Red Alert's death (Not like we ever saw them again after the movie)


Wouldn't have to change the story or the audio.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

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mirageandjazz1197 wrote: redo the animation


Why?

That'd be several orders of magnitude less worthwhile than redoing it as cgi/live.


I'm not saying I want to see them do a total shot for shot remake or anything, but I would definitely be interested in seeing them adapt that story for the liveverse somehow.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Convoy » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:17 pm

How many writers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

I could actually envision Hollywood remaking TF:TM.
Live action could be neat if everything wasn't Bayversified. They could almost even use all the original voices and SFX.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:22 am

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To be honest, I don't want Unicron to be in these movies since, with as unfair as these films have already been in the portrayal of the TFs in proportion to their more seemingly favoritism-based portrayals of the humans (as a means to appeal to the general masses over just the fans), I really don't feel that these films could do him any proper justice.

At best, they'd just make him be a giant, mindless monster, moreso than most of the Decepticons have all been, what with these films being human-focused above all else. So I say better to leave him out than to do him unjustly. Otherwise, we'd probably get something like Mark Wahlberg being the one who either defeats him or holds the key to defeating him. As if Unicron being beaten by germs wasn't already humiliating enough.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

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Sabrblade wrote:To be honest, I don't want Unicron to be in these movies since, with as unfair as these films have already been in the portrayal of the TFs in proportion to their more seemingly favoritism-based portrayals of the humans (as a means to appeal to the general masses over just the fans), I really don't feel that these films could do him any proper justice.

At best, they'd just make him be a giant, mindless monster, moreso than most of the Decepticons have all been, what with these films being human-focused above all else. So I say better to leave him out than to do him unjustly. Otherwise, we'd probably get something like Mark Wahlberg being the one who either defeats him or holds the key to defeating him. As if Unicron being beaten by germs wasn't already humiliating enough.



I think you are right. As we get more films, the quality has continued downward, and I would prefer no more cool characters get the treatment Transformers received in the last 3 films, especially DotM and AoE. I have always been undecided whether I think the films are a good or bad thing overall, but my knee-jerk reaction to the idea of MORE characters I grew up with getting written into the current film universe makes me cringe. I have had enough. I really don't care what they decide to do from here on out. I won't support it by going to a cinema or buying toys based on the movieverse.

I also agree with what Burn and others said earlier. Expanding into spin-offs and more sequels will fail. Marvel spent a ton of time, money and thought making their system work, and it has paid off brilliantly. I don't think it is perfect, but their success is something that will NEVER be achieved by Paramount with the Transformers franchise.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:42 pm

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If Bay's anywhere involved....Unicron won't be in it! Although I'd love them to get the Combiners right! instead of that apelike Devastator! maybe have Metroplex, Trypticon, Omega Supreme, Grandus ect in it. AGAIN.....If Bay's anywhere involved....then obviously those characters won't appear...& expect more apelike gestalts
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby MartianSpyGirl1996 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:03 pm

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Whether it would be a good or bad film, I'd love a Beast Wars adaption regardless of if the characters are slandered
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby SlyTF1 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:18 pm

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Stuartmaximus wrote:If Bay's anywhere involved....Unicron won't be in it! Although I'd love them to get the Combiners right! instead of that apelike Devastator! maybe have Metroplex, Trypticon, Omega Supreme, Grandus ect in it. AGAIN.....If Bay's anywhere involved....then obviously those characters won't appear...& expect more apelike gestalts


Wrong. Bay wanted Metroplex and Tidal Wave in ROTF. Spielberg is the one who told him not to, because the budget would be too high.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:31 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:If Bay's anywhere involved....Unicron won't be in it! Although I'd love them to get the Combiners right! instead of that apelike Devastator! maybe have Metroplex, Trypticon, Omega Supreme, Grandus ect in it. AGAIN.....If Bay's anywhere involved....then obviously those characters won't appear...& expect more apelike gestalts


Wrong. Bay wanted Metroplex and Tidal Wave in ROTF. Spielberg is the one who told him not to, because the budget would be too high.


In the videogame of the first Bay TF movie....Metroplex was the name of the shopping mall, dunno if that would've been the same with the film, there was some concept art of an aircraft carrier TF....I guess that would've been Tidal Wave.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby SlyTF1 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:11 pm

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Stuartmaximus wrote:If Bay's anywhere involved....Unicron won't be in it! Although I'd love them to get the Combiners right! instead of that apelike Devastator! maybe have Metroplex, Trypticon, Omega Supreme, Grandus ect in it. AGAIN.....If Bay's anywhere involved....then obviously those characters won't appear...& expect more apelike gestalts


Wrong. Bay wanted Metroplex and Tidal Wave in ROTF. Spielberg is the one who told him not to, because the budget would be too high.


In the videogame of the first Bay TF movie....Metroplex was the name of the shopping mall, dunno if that would've been the same with the film, there was some concept art of an aircraft carrier TF....I guess that would've been Tidal Wave.


He was probably going to be the military base NEST operated in for most of the movie.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby RAR » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:38 pm

I anticipate a Gi Joe Vs Transformers Movie before the end of the decade.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Stuartmaximus » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:09 pm

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RAR wrote:I anticipate a Gi Joe Vs Transformers Movie before the end of the decade.


hopefully before even then! as the next TF movie is in 2017
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Steven DeKnight on Paramount Transformers Universe Writers Room

Postby Va'al » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:45 am

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Fellow Seibertron.com user SlyTF1 has alerted us to a new article discussing the goings-on at Paramount, and specifically in the writers room for the extended Transformers universe, as IGN caught up with Daredevil's Steven DeKnight on the current situation with Akiva Goldsman's project, and the surprise visit from Steven Spielberg! Read more below, and head here for the full piece.

Taking a page from how a TV show is run, Paramount assembled a big group of experienced writers to help chart out the future of the Transformers film series, under the guidance of Akiva Goldsman, as the studio looks to build more of an expanded Transformers movie universe. I asked DeKnight what the experience was like taking that TV dynamic and using it in film, and he had an enthusiastic reply.

“It's that wonderful thing where features are now taking a page from television and getting people together to really try and plan things out. It was a wonderful experience. Akiva Goldsman was fantastic and Jeff Pinkner, who's co-writing the fifth [Transformers] movie with him was phenomenal. Zak Penn... It was just a room full of brilliant, funny, amazing people. And we spent two and a half weeks in physically the best writers room I've ever seen in my life. Paramount pulled out all the stops. It was phenomenal! We laughed and joked and told stories and plotted out...”
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Windsweeper » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:31 am

Didn't Akiva Goldsman write Batman Forever and Batman & Robin?

How is his involvement a good thing? Bad enough Bay is still around
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Windsweeper wrote:Didn't Akiva Goldsman write Batman Forever and Batman & Robin?

How is his involvement a good thing? Bad enough Bay is still around

Yeah, and Lost in Space. If he's writing TF5, maybe it'll kill the franchise like the two Batman movies did, only to be properly done 8 years later!! :D
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby YRQRM0 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:13 pm

Can't wait til the whole thing gets rebooted. It'll only be a matter of time. I'd like to see someone like Brad Bird helm the TF franchise (after what he did with Iron Giant).
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby fighterknight » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:23 am

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Whether it would be a good or bad film, I'd love a Beast Wars adaption regardless of if the characters are slandered


I'd love for a big screen adaptation of Beast Wars. I don't see it happening though. All the movies thus far have been more human centric then focusing on the Transformers themselves.



I could see it getting rebooted sooner rather then later. I think they will finish out the story they started in AoE, but then reboot it due to the writers room and wanting to make a bigger universe.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

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Um...well, I have conflicting opinions on this. On the one hand, I really like where this is going. Expanding this universe is just plain awesome. It could turn into what Marvel is doing with its cinematic universe. I.E., very good. However, I'm iffy about it as well. I think this is going into the same path as other franchises, franchises that started really good. Michael Bay, and whoever else that is doing this is gonna milk the heck out of this, to the extent that the movies will go stale, with good movies going bad, like the X-Men franchise. Also, what about the comics? Will they be tossed out the window?
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

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MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Whether it would be a good or bad film, I'd love a Beast Wars adaption regardless of if the characters are slandered


I'd love for a big screen adaptation of Beast Wars. I don't see it happening though. All the movies thus far have been more human centric then focusing on the Transformers themselves.



I could see it getting rebooted sooner rather then later. I think they will finish out the story they started in AoE, but then reboot it due to the writers room and wanting to make a bigger universe.


Me too, and I think AOE Scorn would be a perfect figure to remold into Beast Wars Megs! I actually haven't gotten Scorn because I don't really care for the AOE Dinobots, but if they remade it into Megatron then HOLY CRAP I would definitely keep my eye on it! :D
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