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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby skywarp-2 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:52 am

Haha I remember that!

Question: what's the current ranking in terms of which movie is the best to worst, by fandom consensus??
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:19 am

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Question: what's the current ranking in terms of which movie is the best to worst, by fandom consensus??
The first one's pretty much the most (only?) cohesive film, with ROTF still ranked as the worst, though people argue over whether AOE or TLK might be even worse than ROTF. DOTM's in the middle somewhere.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby TulioDude » Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:26 pm

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skywarp-2 wrote:Haha I remember that!

Question: what's the current ranking in terms of which movie is the best to worst, by fandom consensus??


My take:

Transformers->Age of Extinction->Revenge of The Fallen->The Last Knight->Dark of the Moon

The rage for some parts gets blow out of proportion sometimes.There's alot to like in them.I especially like how on Age of Extinction we got to see more of the Autobots outside of action scenes, a trend that continues on The Last Knight. ;)^
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Lorenzo di Bonaventura on China Market, Future of Transformers Movies, More

Postby Va'al » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:22 am

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A long piece in Deadline features producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura discussing the current power of the cinema experience, where the Paramount and Huahua partnership can lead, and what is in store for the Transformers universe from this point forward - with a nod at the Bumblebee spin-off - looking at numbers and the experience of watching a movie itself. You can read some relevant snips below, and the full article here.

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With Paramount still waiting on Huahua to financially commit to the studio, there’s also been some concern in the industry that China’s interest in Hollywood is waning. But di Bonaventura isn’t that cynical. In regards to China’s interest in Hollywood, “It’s happening,” says the producer. “I think it’s starting and stopping because there are lessons to be learned. We can only accelerate the pace. The more we do it, the more refined we get at it.”

di Bonaventura has pacted with China on a few Transformers movies, i.e. Huahua Media on Transformers: The Last Knight and China Movie Channel on Transformers: Age of Extinction. In those cases, a Transformers film received a certain amount of product placement from the Middle Kingdom, i.e. China’s automobile industry. In such a case, that type of branding contributes money toward a film’s bottom line. It’s different for each movie, whether it goes toward a film’s production cost or P&A. But in a case such as Last Knight, there was $20M of Chinese media perk.

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Through five movies, the Transformers franchise has grossed $817M alone in China. The Hasbro movies’ explosion at the box office have been in tandem with the boom of the Middle Kingdom’s exhibition infrastructure, including Imax and 3D. The first Transformers movie ten years ago grossed $37.2M in China, repping only 5% of its $709.7M global gross. Chinese tickets sales hit a peak with 2015’s Transformers: Age of Extinction, raking in $320M, or 29% of its $1.1 billion worldwide haul. This summer’s Transformers: The Last Knight continued to yield strong results in China with $228.8M; an even greater share of the pic’s global ticket sales, 38% of $605.4M.
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Bumblebee is expected to refresh the franchise after Last Knight, while not losing the spirit that Michael Bay has hammered out. Last Knight slowed in ticket sales, as the movie was a challenge for more sophisticated audience markets to decipher from its previous installments. Bumblebee is different in that it’s a period piece that takes place in 1987 and will only star four Transformers in total, as opposed to previous’ titles massive robot car ensembles. Bumblebee opens on Dec. 21 next year.
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby Va'al » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:24 am

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Wow. He has some seriously misguided takes on how cinema works, which says it all about the live-action Transformers movies, really.
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby dragons » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:40 am

He talks like movie critic most is untrue movies made transformers fans of people that where not fans of transformers before movies was released yesterday I saw autobot license plate on car parikijg in four tif bank if not for live action transformers movies that person would not have bought that plate put on there car,
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby Kurona » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:51 am

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If not for the live-action movies, that person would have had a bit of extra cash to spend elsewhere :lol:
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:47 am

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skywarp-2 wrote:Haha I remember that!

Question: what's the current ranking in terms of which movie is the best to worst, by fandom consensus??

This is how I rank them:
DOTM
TF1
TLK
AOE
ROTF
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby skywarp-2 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:11 am

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:Haha I remember that!

Question: what's the current ranking in terms of which movie is the best to worst, by fandom consensus??

This is how I rank them:
DOTM
TF1
TLK
AOE
ROTF


See I liked ROTF, it's a great movie, so my ranking is like this...

ROTF
TF1
DOTM
AOE
TLK

In ROTF we get the matrix, classic banter with Star Scream and Megatron, devastator, the fallen on one of Saturn's moons, the intro of my fav. Team NEST and the original 12 Primes. Not counting the 12 knights. In total with TLK the movie lore is brilliant. I love the storylines. TLK reminds me of the cartoon, with cybertron coming to earth in the ultimate doom. Great storyline. TLK felt like a middle flick, which I can understand why it fell off at the theatres. The final 6th movie should,be the best to end the saga. I can't wait!

Going back, reviewing the movies, you really see G1 cartoon story ideas that become a live action version. Some changes made, but overall the impression I got as a kid, comes back with the overall scale of the movies. We truly are watching G1 In a different form. Close to source, but given more realistic movie scenario. Its a good time to be a transformers cinematic universe fan. I love the TCU.
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby Barricade.it » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:47 am

"will only star four Transformers in total, as opposed to previous’ titles massive robot car ensembles"

From a mistake to the opposite mistake.

Too many robots in TLK, okay: but only four robots in Bumblebee is sooo sad...
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby Budder Prime » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:51 pm

Barricade.it wrote:"will only star four Transformers in total, as opposed to previous’ titles massive robot car ensembles"

From a mistake to the opposite mistake.

Too many robots in TLK, okay: but only four robots in Bumblebee is sooo sad...


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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby JazZeke » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:28 pm

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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby Kurona » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:36 pm

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Honestly, for a smaller-scale story like this apparently is; a much smaller cast would work for that. Even from an in-universe perspective it works since everyone at this point in the timeline is supposed to be in hiding, with the public not learning about them until the 2007 movie.

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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby TulioDude » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:13 pm

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The count them is:Bumblebee is one,the Decepticon Red car and two other guys.
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Paramount and Hasbro to Produce and Distribute Live Action and Animated Content

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November 03, 2017 08:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time

HOLLYWOOD--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Paramount Pictures and Hasbro, Inc. today announced that they will be teaming up to produce and distribute content based on Hasbro brands, as well as original stories. The two companies will collaborate on live action and animated films, with Hasbro’s Allspark Pictures and Allspark Animation playing an active role alongside Paramount Pictures in development and production.

This announcement expands upon an existing relationship between the two companies. Hasbro and Paramount have partnered on five Transformers movies to date, as well as two G.I. Joe films, and the first Transformers spinoff, Bumblebee, is slated for December 2018.

"Paramount has been a valuable partner of Hasbro’s for more than a decade, and we’re looking forward to taking our relationship to the next level," said Brian Goldner, Chairman and CEO, Hasbro. "Storytelling, in its many forms, is revolutionizing our business and differentiating Hasbro in all sectors where we operate. We look forward to collaborating with the talented team at Paramount to create powerful new stories for kids, fans and families globally."

While terms of the relationship are not being disclosed, Paramount and Hasbro will partner on financing projects at varying levels of investment, and Paramount will distribute the projects produced during the five year term of this deal worldwide. Paramount and Hasbro will also collaborate on television programming.

"Hasbro has an enormous array of exceptional brands, so this expansion of our relationship is incredibly exciting," said Paramount Pictures Chairman and CEO, Jim Gianopulos. "We look forward to working with Brian Goldner and Stephen Davis and the Hasbro and Allspark teams to create extraordinary film properties for all audiences."

Hasbro recently hired Greg Mooradian as president of Allspark Pictures, with responsibility for live action film and television. Allspark Animation, the company’s label for animated film and television content, is led by Hasbro’s Meghan McCarthy. Hasbro acquired Boulder Media in 2016, a leading animation studio based in Dublin, Ireland, to produce its television and film animation. Hasbro Studios, its distribution arm which the company founded in 2009, distributes TV and digital content to more than 190 territories globally. The entertainment division reports to Hasbro’s Chief Content Officer, Stephen Davis.

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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby kurthy » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:44 pm

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So the team up that brought us those 7 movies is now going to be responsible for future series? Great... :roll:
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby Octobotimus » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:14 pm

what happened to Hasbro's studio? i thought they made their own studio for future movies.
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

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Octobotimus wrote:what happened to Hasbro's studio? i thought they made their own studio for future movies.
That's what Allspark Pictures is.

If by "Hasbro's studio" you meant "Hasbro Studios", that's their television show production company, not movies.
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby TulioDude » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:14 pm

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Paramount and Huahua Media Ending Their Financing Deal

Postby Bounti76 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:41 am

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As filming on the Bumblebee Movie wraps/is wrapping up, and with the last of the Transformers: The Last Knight toyline trickling out, we bring to you more news, though of the business side of making the live-action movies.

As we reported earlier, HuaHua media, via it's funding agreement with Paramount Studios, had incurred larger than expected losses, due to underperforming Paramount films (including this summer's The Last Knight). Well, it now looks as though that agreement is ending, via this story in Variety.

What does this mean for the live-action movies? Jim Gianapoulos, Paramount CEO said “The actions we are announcing today establish a financing model that is better aligned to Paramount’s new strategic approach to film production,” [he] said in a statement. Click on the link above to read the full article, and feel free to discuss this in the Energon pub forums below!
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:24 am

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American businesses are learning from the Chinese.......how to put one over the other! :lol: This time, it's the Chinese left holding the bag! Paramount's been a victim of so much piracy that they hoodwinked them investors from China into investing on a turd!
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby Blackstreak » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:39 pm

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Perhaps if the movies and toy lines are underperforming, than maybe they should improve on the quality of their products? Just a thought. I rather enjoy the movies but the toys have really plummeted in quality and skyrocketed in price. Nowadays, the only lines I'm interested in are 3rd party and Masterpiece.
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe General Thread

Postby TulioDude » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:57 pm

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but the toys have really plummeted in quality and skyrocketed in price.

Unfortunately,this apllies to most toys nowdays,it isnt a Hasbro isolated thing.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #188 - Mutinous Intent
Twincast / Podcast #188:
"Mutinous Intent"
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Posted: Monday, November 13th, 2017