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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby X3ROhour » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:46 am

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Since Menasor's legs are both the same car mold with the hood folded in front like a kneecap, seems he has Wildrider as a leg instead of Offroad.


Perhaps the show will show us the "breakup" and need for his replacement. We know why Alpha Bravo and Powerglide are the new Aerialbots.
It's certainly part of the tale that I would be interested in knowing about.
Maybe Wildrider quit.
Maybe he dies or switches sides or becomes a recluse, drunk because he lost faith after 4 million years of PTSD and Megatons betrayal and the wholesale price of it all.
Maybe he takes Prowls place in Optimus Maximus, teaching the Autobots how to Gestalt properly.

I don't know.

If utilized well, could make for some good bit of writing.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:30 am

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There is a lot of potential here, but things are so limited by time...I don't know how they are going to fit it all in.

First you have to establish what is going on in the current world (some odd melding of the original Transformers, and IDW) and what the current conflict is.

What does it really mean to be a combiner? There have been conflicting theories over the years as to whether a combiner, when merged has its own consciousness, or if it is the fusion of the minds of its members. Devastator is unique in that he has only one transformation mode (which makes it fitting that in most cases he was the *first* combiner). Most other "Scramble City" combiners have the ability to switch out limbs within their teams, and with other teams, though in north America this was never really seen. In Japan, it was made use of more often. I also like the idea that if an Autobot or Decepticon limb could infiltrate another combiner it could actually cause them pain and disable them temporarily (as seen in Scramble City). Another aspect is the idea that warriors like Cyclonus, or even Optimus Prime with the enigma of combination could literally summon any transformer to merge with them. Though this is an aspect of the CW toy brand, again we have no way of knowing at the moment if this will play into the series or not.

Also I'm still wondering how they will be portrayed. The one video at SDCC showed Menasor speaking. Of course I want a little something more than "SMASH! DESTROY!" , but was it just me...or did Menasor sound a little *urban*? for lack of a better term.

If we look back to Menasors dialogue from the OTF episode Masquerade I think that was a nice balance. Not a completely out of control rage monster, but still quite formidable and obviously limited because of the melding of 5 minds. I also like the idea that a combiner could have more than 5 or 6 members. First Aid was a medic and pacifist, so it would make sense that they would get a new member (Rook) to take his place in most situations. Or if a member happened to die, or be mortally wounded in battle, they could get another to take his place. Though it should not be something flippant (as seen in the IDW comics recently where Sky Reign and Galvatronus literally were hodgepodged together out of whoever happened to be there).

There should be some kind of compatibility factor scale. Kind of like what was seen in Pacific Rim. Different Transformer minds should have a certain level of compatibility in order to merge IMHO.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:26 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:So, on the voice acting side, it's mostly YouTube people, minor actors, and Patrick Seitz.


Oh, my mistake. I thought I was on Seibertron not TFW for a sec there. Gotta say that's a pretty insulting statement, bro. I've been a professional voice actor for 7 years and worked on over 3,000 jobs. I've done character work for cartoons on FOX, a dozen or so video game characters, toys, commercials and everything in between. I get that you're in love with Seitz but don't insult the professionalism of the rest of the cast. New media stars are getting hired more and more often than tv and movie stars are for animation, that's just the way the industry is evolving. It's free publicity for the jobs they do for the clients. They bring their fans with them. That being said, I'm not the only one with acting chops and plenty of experience to work in animation.



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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:57 pm

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Deadput wrote:
jON3.0 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So, on the voice acting side, it's mostly YouTube people, minor actors, and Patrick Seitz.


Oh, my mistake. I thought I was on Seibertron not TFW for a sec there.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Transformers Combiners Wars - What are you waiting for?

Postby Transformers Matrix » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:01 am

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Everybory is waiting for the series about Transformers Combiners Wars. I would like to know, what are you waiting for about this new production.

I think it is going to be amazing!!!...


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62poUMLEVXA


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Re: Transformers Combiners Wars - What are you waiting for?

Postby Tyrannacon » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:51 am

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I like how it's been pegged as being a more mature series compared to what we have in the past supposedly. I mean I do find the RiD 2015 to be good fun and Prime is also mature in some ways itself at least for a kids show. I appreciate the slapstick elements of RiD 2015. Humor is part of the brand in my eyes. I just would love to see the CW series on Machima to definitely set the bar higher though for TF fiction.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:18 pm

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Tyrannacon » Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:25 pm

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Amusing. I'm looking forward to this. I mean the voice acting I am kind of on the fence about, but I am looking forward to this.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:32 pm

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The video isn't playing for me. A Chinese message shows that says, according to Google Translate, "This video does not exist!"
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New Clip - Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars: Megatron vs Constructicons

Postby Va'al » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:07 am

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Our by-now old friend 52Toys from the Weibo social network has uploaded a video from Cybertron Con 2016, which features a clip from the upcoming Combiner Wars animated series from Machinima and Hasbro! The clip, shown during the event, shows a fight between Megatron and the Contructicons, in an arena looking location. Check it out embedded below!



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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:18 am

Video link doesn't work. Just a small icon of some blue cube?

YouTube link, please!
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:23 am

https://youtu.be/gpG0O1TC_XE


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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:29 am

Randomhero wrote:https://youtu.be/gpG0O1TC_XE


Best I could find


Brilliant! Cheers!

Although the uploader wrote "combaticons" instead of "constructicons" by mistake.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:40 am

primalxconvoy wrote:
Randomhero wrote:https://youtu.be/gpG0O1TC_XE


Best I could find


Brilliant! Cheers!

Although the uploader wrote "combaticons" instead of "constructicons" by mistake.



That's a actually a thing for some reason. A lot of stuff is promoting them as combaticons for some reason
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:55 am

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Maybe - and I'm just letting the speculengine loose here - they're combaticons in the sense that they're part of that combat arena looking thing? :-?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:58 am

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Man, that is some choppy movement on the bots (despite all the background and camera movement looking just fine).
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:00 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Man, that is some choppy movement on the bots (despite all the background and camera movement looking just fine).

Yeah, I am not a fan. I really dont like that style of action where you dont see the origin of the blows and instead just see the bot flying off after being hit.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Hero Alpha » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:11 am

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Looks pretty good, I admit its not as fluid as I would hope, but still good. Can't wait to watch these. What I wish Hasbro would do, would be a show that is set during the 20 yrs between G1 Sunbow season 2 and the movie. Same style animation, just updated similar to Devastation. So much to cover there like Kup, Hot Rod and the bunch reuniting with the Ark gang, Metroplex/Autobot city, Decepticons taking Cybertron and Unicron build up. But maybe thats just me.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Tyrannacon » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:01 pm

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Moonshot wrote:Looks pretty good, I admit its not as fluid as I would hope, but still good. Can't wait to watch these. What I wish Hasbro would do, would be a show that is set during the 20 yrs between G1 Sunbow season 2 and the movie. Same style animation, just updated similar to Devastation. So much to cover there like Kup, Hot Rod and the bunch reuniting with the Ark gang, Metroplex/Autobot city, Decepticons taking Cybertron and Unicron build up. But maybe thats just me.


I wouldn't mind this either. I'd be mostly and completely alright and on board with this idea. I doubt it will happen though unfortunately, but you never know.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:17 pm

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If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:18 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:24 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
Not to mention that every time Hasbro kept getting asked at each BotCon about either a continuation, a season 2.5, or a remake of the G1 cartoon, they always sounded less than ethusiastic about the idea, and accompanied their responses with the usual "We prefer to move forward with the brand and look to the past for mere inspiration and influence for new ideas, rather than stay stuck in the past" shtick.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:39 pm

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I think it just goes to show how fickle (or diverse) the fanbase is, or how confusing Hasbro seems to be. See for me, really I haven't been collecting toys for about a decade (with few exceptions). I am mostly in it for the animated series and comics, which is a constant source of frustration.

I would love to see a truly, honest to goodness continuation of the original animated series. Either taking pace in the time period between season 2 and the movie, or something Post-Rebirth. Hasbro keeps saying "no" because basically there is no money (or far less money) to be made in animated series and comics. Toys is where they make their money (well and now the movie franchise but...)

So they sought to appeal to fans, and in a way it succeeded. Between Combiner Wars and Titans Return, a fan can *almost* relive the experience of getting the entire 86 & 87 toy line, plus a good amount of new stuff. but again those are just TOYS. I want to see a absolutely true continuation of the original animated series, but I know its never going to happen.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:54 pm

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Plus, honestly... a continuation of the original G1 series wouldn't work because it didn't really have a particular story behind it. It was just fun, silly situation-of-the-week episodes that had no real connection, was pretty mindless, and never went anywhere. Which is fun, but there's not really any story to continue there.
Now if you're talking about something like Marvel G1, Beast Wars, Animated etc. who do have stories and characters that went places and it would be great to see a continuation of - especially given the latter's cancellation - then that makes sense. But beyond the pure basic thinking birthed from nostalgia of "OMG MY CHILDHOOD SHOW'S BACK", what could you really do with the G1 cartoon?
It's why I was initially scared at the rumours of Combiner Wars being a G1 continuation because it's (trying to be) a serious story which doesn't really fit in at all with G1.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Tyrannacon » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:01 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.

Yes, it had it's time in the sun, and then it bowed down ;)


Ah. Hah. See what you did there. Clever! ;)

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ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
Not to mention that every time Hasbro kept getting asked at each BotCon about either a continuation, a season 2.5, or a remake of the G1 cartoon, they always sounded less than ethusiastic about the idea, and accompanied their responses with the usual "We prefer to move forward with the brand and look to the past for mere inspiration and influence for new ideas, rather than stay stuck in the past" shtick.


I recall this as well from reading it somewhere actually. It was either on a news group's archive I went through, TFWiki, or BWTF that lead to it. Can't really remember exactly.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #348 - Uno
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