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IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:54 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:There is no comic in February and #4 is in March. Va'al might know why but I don't know the reason :BOT:


Cool, thanks. I wonder if it's because they (IDW) want the focus to be on the 50th issues of MTME and not-RID? They're out in February.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:04 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:There is no comic in February and #4 is in March. Va'al might know why but I don't know the reason :BOT:


Cool, thanks. I wonder if it's because they (IDW) want the focus to be on the 50th issues of MTME and not-RID? They're out in February.

Logical guess. Both are double issues :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Tigertrack » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:06 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:There is no comic in February and #4 is in March. Va'al might know why but I don't know the reason :BOT:


Cool, thanks. I wonder if it's because they (IDW) want the focus to be on the 50th issues of MTME and not-RID? They're out in February.

Logical guess. Both are double issues :BOT:


Actually on Twitter Roche thanks IDW for giving him time to take care of family business and then return to it. No specifics, but it's not an IDW thing.

If I owned a transformer of that tarantulas, it would never, ever be in alt mode...ever.

I'm sorry to all of you, but even if this isn't the Wreckers story I wanted I am still enjoying it. But I enjoy a lot of the characters being used and focused on here, so, yeah.

Angry about Stakeout... Stupid giant tcog.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:09 pm

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Ah thanks! now we know!

And actually I am very much enjoying it, though I agree about Stakeout. I really like him :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby RevTibe » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:51 pm

Poor, poor Claw Jaw. Good night, sweet prince. If I'm lucky, #4 or 5 will feature Scuba and Ikard beating the chrome off Hubcap's bearings.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:17 pm

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My copy arrived today. Now that Tarantulas has Springer, Roadbuster and Arcee captive, I think that we'll be seeing the sins of the Wreckers quite soon!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:59 am

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Kieron Gillen to Take Over WRECKERS from Nick Roche

Postby Va'al » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:30 am

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Note: the title is entirely untrue. :-P

Kieron: My aim this year is to tie up a lot of projects in the first half. Then my aim is to as I kind of free up space, not to take anything more on. That's my aim. Especially that I don't take on any more work for hire books. And I've ended up saying no to a series of dream books. I've been offered stuff inside the superhero genre, stuff outside the superhero genre, a lot of it very well paying. Stuff of which is iconic to me and I've managed to say no to it all. I haven't been offered Transformers though. And I'd feel bad for how well reviewed they are. It'd be a difficult act to follow. Clearly, on some level, all I want to do is write Impactor, but Nick Roche is obviously a friend, so there's no way I'd go anywhere near the Wreckers even if I was asked. But no. Not doing anything. I've turned down stuff I love more than Transformers, so I suspect if IDW dropped me a line I'd keep my will true. And I do love Transformers. I think I can safely say, never say never. Down the line? Who knows. Like what did my friend say? Screw you if I can't have any fun.

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IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #4 Full Preview

Postby Va'al » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:52 am

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After a small break in trasmission, we now return to Nick Roche's (with Josh Burcham and others) Sins of the Wreckers, as issue #4 hits next week - check out the preview below, as Newsarama has shared their own, and head back to Seibertron.com for our review on Wednesday!

Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers #4 (of 5)
Nick Roche (w & a & c)
WEB OF DECEIT! The search for PROWL leads the WRECKERS deep into enemy territory—and that’s where they’re at their best! Unfortunately, with the lives they’ve lived—the pasts they battle to escape—even their best isn’t enough to save everybody.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby triKlops » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:01 am

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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Windsweeper » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:56 am

I like how Hubcap says no one remembers him. It seems like a nod to the fact that he never appeared in the G1 comics or cartoon.

I even remember being with my youngest brother when he bought him and at first glance thinking he was Bumblebee.

Loving this preview. Nick should be given an ongoing. He's as good as Roberts and they're both infinitely better than Barber.

If only they'd been writing Regeneration given they were both fans of the Marvel comic.
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IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers for Preorder on Amazon

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:20 am

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Fellow Seibertronian triKlops has let us know that the trade paperback for Nick Roche's Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers is now up for preorder at Amazon. It is slightly discounted at 17.99 and is slated to be released on August 2, 2016.

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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:27 pm

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#4 is gonna be a good issue, I can feel it. With the way he works, Roche will have this be big, and lead into the bigger conclusion. Although, I predict a death in this one, at least one, maybe more. With Last Stand, he killed 1 in #3 and 3 in #4, so this should be the issue with the body count if he stays true to self :MAXIMAL:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Henry921 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:53 am

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So, this is the "Roadbuster affair". I'm not sure how Fisitron could spin this as anything other than horrific, so I assume he heard a very different version of the story, just like the deaths of Squadron X in Last Stand.

Good to see Mortilus mentioned again; nice bit of world building. Wanna' learn more about any connection to Tarantulas. He could be another "spawn of Mortilus" like Trypticon was.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:53 am

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:#4 is gonna be a good issue, I can feel it. With the way he works, Roche will have this be big, and lead into the bigger conclusion. Although, I predict a death in this one, at least one, maybe more. With Last Stand, he killed 1 in #3 and 3 in #4, so this should be the issue with the body count if he stays true to self :MAXIMAL:


Do you think they will reveal who that bot that Tarantulas made is now?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:24 am

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william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:#4 is gonna be a good issue, I can feel it. With the way he works, Roche will have this be big, and lead into the bigger conclusion. Although, I predict a death in this one, at least one, maybe more. With Last Stand, he killed 1 in #3 and 3 in #4, so this should be the issue with the body count if he stays true to self :MAXIMAL:


Do you think they will reveal who that bot that Tarantulas made is now?

I kinda hope, but at the same time, I feel that may be like a last 5 pages of the whole series secret, if it is revealed here :MAXIMAL:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:28 pm

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wow. this is really some awesome work by Roche. Outstanding.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:56 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:#4 is gonna be a good issue, I can feel it. With the way he works, Roche will have this be big, and lead into the bigger conclusion. Although, I predict a death in this one, at least one, maybe more. With Last Stand, he killed 1 in #3 and 3 in #4, so this should be the issue with the body count if he stays true to self :MAXIMAL:


Do you think they will reveal who that bot that Tarantulas made is now?

If it's who we all seem to think it is, I could see it either dropping at the end of this issue, or as a quiet epilogue to the final issue.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby snavej » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:01 pm

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IDW Transformers: #SinsOfTheWreckers #4 Review

Postby Va'al » Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:27 am

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Guilt and Violence
(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
WEB OF DECEIT! The search for PROWL leads the WRECKERS deep into enemy territory—and that’s where they’re at their best! Unfortunately, with the lives they’ve lived—the pasts they battle to escape—even their best isn’t enough to save everybody.

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How the tables (heh) have turned


Story

After the break in the mini-series, we return to the happy escapades of a bunch of loveable misfits, who just happen to wander through the woods and get caught in the web of a spider. Imagine if Nick Roche approached Sins of the Wreckers in that fashion, and then move several steps opposite - darkness falls. Again.

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Sorry Guzzle


We move through Tarantulas' web as guilt weaves its tale through the minds and past of Roadbuster, Hubcap, Prowl, Arcee and Springer, with the biggest and the smallest of the lot revealing the beginning of the shared sinful paths, and how they have encountered and become who they are now.

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It's... not pretty


On the other side, the team of Wreckers and the Chimeracons, are still working their way through to Tarantulas and his prey, finding a way through the Noisemaze, finding their way through the mess that Prowl has landed everyone into. And they're fairly straightforward about it. Wrecker style.

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Prowl, always the charmer


There is also - as is to be expected by now - some seriously dark humour in the book, almost a breather in between the even darker actions and dialogue taking place. But be ready for another big, dense, heavy read (in a good way, ultimately, but heavy nonetheless), as issue #4 is where Roche falls into the rabbit hole. More thoughts on this below.

Art

As expected, the darkness in the story crawls and creeps not only into the linework, where the organic and the mechanical blend in a really intriguing fashion - if not grotesquely so - but also into the panel composition, with a lot of blank and black spaces, filled yes with dialogue, but also with ominous pauses...

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All together now!


Josh Burcham and Joana Lafuente's colours are wonderfully attuned to the linework provided, and we get some seriously murky, shadowy, closed and/or trippy, depending on the scene, backgrounds to accompany the story being told - or the plans being set in motion. From the past to the present, via the Noisemaze, we see the colourists' skills at full power.

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Whheeeeeee...


As for the lettering, this issue allows for some of the most varied and appreciated work from Tom B. Long, given free rein over a number of techniques, from fading, to fonts, to sizing - the result is an integral part of both story and visuals, without which it might not work the same. On he cover front, the main Roadbuster narrative is taken on by Roche and Burcham, with the latter also playing with Prowl playing with lives (Kup in particular), and Jack Lawrence brings us the new, complete team of Wreckers in the thumbnailed variant.


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

Other readers have pointed out how, much like Roberts in recent MTMTE issues, there are some parallels here in SOTW with the previous Wrecker-centric volume. While that is undoubtedly true, it is also the case that Roche has taken the issues of guilt and violence very much to their limit, here. The issue may not be an easy read for some, as it is as graphic as it is dense, physically and mentally for the characters, and the latter for the readers too.

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The way in which Roche, Burcham, Lafuente, and Long collaborate on the same story shows a level of passion and understanding of the different dynamics, between characters, between creators, between book and readers, that can only end up bringing about a book like this. The one concern, perhaps, is about the pacing - the build-up is so strong, the development so good, that it feels like this could've been the end of the story. How will next month rack up?

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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Genericon #378 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:11 am

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Ok, this is just getting ridiculous. Who thought of the great idea that was "kill all the actually interesting characters and leave every predictable character alive"? I can literally predict what the remaining characters will do. Impactor and Guzzle will murder more interesting characters, Kup and Springer will be the only interesting characters left, Prowl will do some stupid treachery ****, and Tarantulas will be a dick to everyone.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:17 am

I don't know what is about this series but it's just not really amazing to me anymore. I don't hate it, I like it but 'the wow factor' isn't there. I don't want to blame the 2 month delay or the fact we know prowl comes out fine in this and that Arcee and Kup are fine as well but it's just kind of a forgettable story and comic. I get the stakes are high but we know how this ends in the larger picture of things. Prowl doesn't change by the end of this. He's not nicks character anymore, he's john's. Maybe that's it.

It's like I've said before, this is not the series everyone really wanted as a sequel to LSOTW. I think it's a good story and I do enjoy it but I find myself asking "is this story relevant in the current era of transformers comics that we're getting because it's a story doesn't matter if it happened or not because other bigger things are happening in James and Johns books"
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Re: IDW Transformers: #SinsOfTheWreckers #4 Review

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:56 pm

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Really? You had to pick that one huh?

Overall not bad. Kinda got what I was anticipating too. Now just gotta wait for the finale :MAXIMAL:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:21 pm

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I dunno. I like this series. I like how they are incorporating different transformers and themes into this one universe and in a way that makes since. I stoked on the beast modes now because they make a lot more since. I like what is going on but I do have to agree that I wish we didn't already know these characters fates.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:24 pm

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #347 - Swooped In
Twincast / Podcast #347:
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