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[Stuartmaximus]

Well if like you say....Takara isn't giving us one(Fort Max)....then maybe some 3p will make an add-on kit for it, i'll wait to see if such a thing occurs

Takara is doing Fortress Maximus ...

Ah okay, thanks

Well....that....coupled with a 3p add-on kit(if any indeed happen?) may give it that more original look

As for those Takara haters....just remember.....you wouldn't have gotten Constructions with better articulation, nor a deluxe Groove(yes! granted! Hasbro is now bringing one out as an individual item) or Slingshot(Quickslinger) or Breakdown(Brake Neck) or even a G1 Space Shuttle Blast Off(which I believe is happening) if it wasn't for Takara

[Kurona]

Well if like you say....Takara isn't giving us one(Fort Max)....then maybe some 3p will make an add-on kit for it, i'll wait to see if such a thing occurs

Takara is doing Fortress Maximus ...

Ah okay, thanks

Well....that....coupled with a 3p add-on kit(if any indeed happen?) may give it that more original look

As for those Takara haters....just remember.....you wouldn't have gotten Constructions with better articulation, nor a deluxe Groove(yes! granted! Hasbro is now bringing one out as an individual item) or Slingshot(Quickslinger) or Breakdown(Brake Neck) or even a G1 Space Shuttle Blast Off(which I believe is happening) if it wasn't for Takara

No-one's saying they're hating Takara though.
On the contrary, I'm very happy and grateful for the exclusives Takara pulls sometimes. Wildrider's my favourite Stunticon so I'm happy we did get him eventually, and then the things they've pulled with the cartoon lines - releasing unreleased figures like Blackout in Animated, giving us a Voyager Breakdown in TFP, retooling FOC Grimlock into RiD 2015 Grimlock, etc - have been very impressive and amazing additions to anyone collecting those lines. And from what they've shown us so far, they're going so far as to add in a sword for Fort Max.
All everyone here is saying is that you can't say it's "better" just because you speculate without basis that it'll have a ton of added ****. Hell, we can say for sure it won't have some of the stuff you said it would because we've seen the colour photos and they sure as heck don't have the hip cannons. And from all the stock photography and other stuff Takara have given us of Max so far, if they were gonna add in things like a recoloured Scamper or anything else, you'd think they'd have shown them by now. The only things that we know Takara Fort Max has over Hasbro Fort Max - that we know of, but I doubt this will change - are the two Master Swords of which we have only seen silhouettes and don't know how they'll actually look, and a different colour scheme more accurate to The Headmasters anime which may be more or less appealing depending on your taste. If you like the Takara version better, all the power to you. I think I actually might like it better too aside from the pure white ramps in city mode. But just saying something's better because you speculate it will have something is just incorrect.

[Mr Skram]

Don't think I've seen anyone hating on Takara. But there will definitely be 3rd party stuff for this whole line. Just a matter of the companies getting their hands on the figs and working something out.

[Burn]

People are just hating on Fortress Maximus, regardless of who is producing him.

Most of it centres around him not being "true to his G1 self", simply because he doesn't have a similar city mode.

Which as it turns out, thanks to innovative fans, he does. So now they're pissing and moaning that Hasbro didn't make it official.

[Stuartmaximus]

Well if like you say....Takara isn't giving us one(Fort Max)....then maybe some 3p will make an add-on kit for it, i'll wait to see if such a thing occurs

Takara is doing Fortress Maximus ...

Ah okay, thanks

Well....that....coupled with a 3p add-on kit(if any indeed happen?) may give it that more original look

As for those Takara haters....just remember.....you wouldn't have gotten Constructions with better articulation, nor a deluxe Groove(yes! granted! Hasbro is now bringing one out as an individual item) or Slingshot(Quickslinger) or Breakdown(Brake Neck) or even a G1 Space Shuttle Blast Off(which I believe is happening) if it wasn't for Takara

No-one's saying they're hating Takara though.
On the contrary, I'm very happy and grateful for the exclusives Takara pulls sometimes. Wildrider's my favourite Stunticon so I'm happy we did get him eventually, and then the things they've pulled with the cartoon lines - releasing unreleased figures like Blackout in Animated, giving us a Voyager Breakdown in TFP, retooling FOC Grimlock into RiD 2015 Grimlock, etc - have been very impressive and amazing additions to anyone collecting those lines. And from what they've shown us so far, they're going so far as to add in a sword for Fort Max.
All everyone here is saying is that you can't say it's "better" just because you speculate without basis that it'll have a ton of added SHIZZLESNIT. Hell, we can say for sure it won't have some of the stuff you said it would because we've seen the colour photos and they sure as heck don't have the hip cannons. And from all the stock photography and other stuff Takara have given us of Max so far, if they were gonna add in things like a recoloured Scamper or anything else, you'd think they'd have shown them by now. The only things that we know Takara Fort Max has over Hasbro Fort Max - that we know of, but I doubt this will change - are the two Master Swords of which we have only seen silhouettes and don't know how they'll actually look, and a different colour scheme more accurate to The Headmasters anime which may be more or less appealing depending on your taste. If you like the Takara version better, all the power to you. I think I actually might like it better too aside from the pure white ramps in city mode. But just saying something's better because you speculate it will have something is just incorrect.

True, but if you've seen the video reviews of Fort by now then you get a better understanding of what to expect of the figure

As for me not getting the figure...& this is only my decision btw, I won't be getting the figure to begin with.....but....if like I stated previously....some 3P does some sort of add-on kit for it(maybe clip-on hip cannons, as well as his big & small hand weapons & maybe....who knows?...a repainted Scamper as Cog) THEN I may gain an interest in picking Fort Max up, but until such a time....it's just not for me, + i've already got 2 KO & 2 Kabaya Fort Max's as well as a 3P(Infinitor), so i'm happy with those for the time being

[Burn]

2 Kabaya Fort Max's

Fun little buggers aren't they? Will you be getting the upcoming metallic finish version?

[Stuartmaximus]

2 Kabaya Fort Max's

Fun little buggers aren't they? Will you be getting the upcoming metallic finish version?

Eh? Didn't even know there was a metallic one? are those Kabaya?

[Burn]

2 Kabaya Fort Max's

Fun little buggers aren't they? Will you be getting the upcoming metallic finish version?

Eh? Didn't even know there was a metallic one? are those Kabaya?

Yep. Really just a reissue with a different finish.
http://hlj.com/product/KBA15636

[Stuartmaximus]

2 Kabaya Fort Max's

Fun little buggers aren't they? Will you be getting the upcoming metallic finish version?

Eh? Didn't even know there was a metallic one? are those Kabaya?

Yep. Really just a reissue with a different finish.
http://hlj.com/product/KBA15636

Hmmmmmm dunno? although i'm digging that green chest piece just a pity it isn't a translucent piece though

[Va'al]

From UK toy distributor A.B. Gee, we have a look at official stock photography at the second wave of Deluxes in the Hasbro Transformers Titans Return line: Mindwipe, Highbrow, Chromedome, and Wolfwire (listed at £21.99 each - approx $32 USD)! As is usual by now, the images feature the wonderful poses showing the 'best' side of the figures, plus a randomly assorted look at both modes, packaging, and spec cards. Check them out mirrored below!

[Kurona]

the first wave of Deluxes in the Hasbro Transformers Titans Return line: Mindwipe, Highbrow, Chromedome, and Wolfwire (listed at £21.99 each - approx $32 USD)!

EXCUSE ME

[william-james88]

As for those Takara haters....just remember.....you wouldn't have gotten Constructions with better articulation, nor a deluxe Groove(yes! granted! Hasbro is now bringing one out as an individual item) or Slingshot(Quickslinger) or Breakdown(Brake Neck) or even a G1 Space Shuttle Blast Off(which I believe is happening) if it wasn't for Takara

No one hates Takara. All we are saying is you shouldnt expect miracles since they didnt change anything to the Hasbro Fort Max mold. They are the ones who designed this retool anyways.
Also Slingshot and Wildrider were Hasbro designs and Hasbro Wildrider (you wrote Breakdown) even came out before Takara's. Also, Takara's shuttle Blastoff is not impressive in the least but at least it isnt lazy.

This is the Hasbro version.

I believe what our friend Hellscream is saying that Hasbro didn't think about making that an official mode.

There's a lot of "unofficial" modes out there for Transformers. That's part of the fun, discovering these things.But I guess there are some people who need instructions for everything in life.

You making fun of my honeymoon night?

Anyways, about this fort Max fan mode, I see it no different than the gun fan mode on Megatron last year. Its just us grasping for something that isnt there and that doesnt look that great when you think about it.


What I disliked about this new Fort Max was not just that it abandoned its city mode but that it didnt have much of a transformation and looked lazy with much reduced playability from the G1 version. And that it was just a retool. And this doesnt change anything. We just flipped his legs in the air to give the illusion that he looks like his G1 self (which he doesnt) when looking at him dead on. But its not like we can use them as towers when we play, since its not intended. Not like this:


Transformers G1 1987 Fortress Maximus Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Fortress Maximus Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Fortress Maximus Gallery

Technically, you could go for the G1 guy as he has more play space and accuracy... to... itself.

Thats what I recomend anyone disatisfied with this toy.

[ZeroWolf]

the first wave of Deluxes in the Hasbro Transformers Titans Return line: Mindwipe, Highbrow, Chromedome, and Wolfwire (listed at £21.99 each - approx $32 USD)!

EXCUSE ME

So argos was a harbinger of prices to come then. It's getting more and more expensive to be a UK fan who loves hunting for them in the shops when compared to the cold, hard efficiency of online shopping.

[Kurona]

Checked a bit more on the website; and right enough they do some scalping... their CW deluxes are £18 vs the normal £16 while their CW voyagers are £25 vs the normal £23. But this is just absolutely outrageous.

[Collector Canine]

From UK toy distributor A.B. Gee, we have a look at official stock photography at the first wave of Deluxes in the Hasbro Transformers Titans Return line: Mindwipe, Highbrow, Chromedome, and Wolfwire (listed at £21.99 each - approx $32 USD)! As is usual by now, the images feature the wonderful poses showing the 'best' side of the figures, plus a randomly assorted look at both modes, packaging, and spec cards. Check them out mirrored below!

I thought these were the wave 2 deluxes?

[Va'al]

Whoops, yep! Brain didn't kick in!

Fixed, thanks.

[Alpha Dominus]

Love these guys!ALL of 'em! The colors,the sculpts,the modes! (Blurr is a Cybertronian racer again!Squeeeeeeeeeeel!) And that second and third tier characters (finally) get some love-and look amazing!

Also,the fact that I'm impatient for a new Wheelie really says something about this new line for me.

[Collector Canine]

Whoops, yep! Brain didn't kick in!

Fixed, thanks.

You're very welcome!

[ZeroWolf]

If only the prices were such an error

[MightyMagnus78]

£21.99 for a deluxe...That's insane! They can't justify that surely?

[MightyMagnus78]

Having never owned a G1 Fort Max and not being able to afford the £300+ the reissue goes for I'm totally picking up the TR version. I don't want to miss out like I did with Metroplex a few years back.

[Kurona]

£21.99 for a deluxe...That's insane! They can't justify that surely?

Admittedly I've seen worse, and this site does put it's prices quite a bit higher in general... but considering this is the first domestic price I've seen for Titans Return and it's much above their Combiner Wars pricing, it's not very encouraging.

[Agamemnon]

£21.99 for a deluxe...That's insane! They can't justify that surely?

As long as the toys keep selling? Capitalism!

[MightyMagnus78]

£21.99 for a deluxe...That's insane! They can't justify that surely?

As long as the toys keep selling? Capitalism!

Can't see them selling many deluxes at £21.99, especially when CW voyagers are currently £22.99 or cheaper.

[Kurona]

£21.99 for a deluxe...That's insane! They can't justify that surely?

As long as the toys keep selling? Capitalism!

Can't see them selling many deluxes at £21.99, especially when CW voyagers are currently £22.99 or cheaper.

To be fair, it can be an alluring price if it's an early release. I remember in December I caved and got Blast Off for the price of a Voyager on Amazon because it was literally the lowest price I could find for him.
After that? Nae chance.