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[Optimizzy]

I do hope this wont feel as rushed as the last one.

[Randomhero]

I do hope this wont feel as rushed as the last one.

I second that. It was a mess

[1984forever]

Scott says the last thing she wants people to remember is that Windblade turns into a jet. So what I got from this is that it will be a political talking heads book as shown in the preview. There will also be few Transformations because there will be very little action. Characters from many KOntinuities will show up for nostalgia purposes, but nothing will be done with them because the book will focus relentlessly on the same cast from Windblade. The average Transformers fan can't just jump into TAAO without reading years worth of IDW history, so they're going to try to attract the Archie comic and romance novel crowd.

Okay, got it.

[Randomhero]

Scott says the last thing she wants people to remember is that Windblade turns into a jet. So what I got from this is that it will be a political talking heads book as shown in the preview. There will also be few Transformations because there will be very little action. Characters from many KOntinuities will show up for nostalgia purposes, but nothing will be done with them because the book will focus relentlessly on the same cast from Windblade. The average Transformers fan can't just jump into TAAO without reading years worth of IDW history, so they're going to try to attract the Archie comic and romance novel crowd.

Okay, got it.

Well that should be fine with you since you hate everything IDW and "don't read" the comics they put out.

[Prowl4]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

[Randomhero]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

[Prowl4]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.

[RevTibe]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.

From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.

[Prowl4]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.

From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.

When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

[RevTibe]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.

From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.

When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.

[Prowl4]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.

From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.

When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.[/quote]

Is the author a woman? Is the main character she uses female?

[Randomhero]

For me I just care about the story. I don't care who the writer is as long the story is good to me. That being said, how many comic sites and social media outlets were promoting and making a big deal about having a woman write for transformers and having female transformers. It honestly put me off because I grew up with Arcee black arachnia airrazer and botanica. They've always been around so when Windblade was announced I didn't blink. It was "alright, cool"

When you push and push and push that's when I start getting irked and that's how I have felt for two years now.

[RevTibe]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.

From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.

When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.

Is the author a woman? Is the main character she uses female?

Dang, you're right. Sorry man, I forgot that I'm not allowed to defend an author whose work I enjoy if they happen to be a woman or write a female protagonist. Thanks for reminding me.

[1984forever]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.

it's not just her, it's Roberts and Barber coming heavy with the agendas and social engineering as well. It's what an adult would do with their Transformers collection. Pose them on a shelf and have them debate and crack jokes. No real TF action because they're too sophisticated for it. It's time for all 3 of them to write something else.

[Randomhero]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Personally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.

From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.

When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.

Is the author a woman? Is the main character she uses female?

Dang, you're right. Sorry man, I forgot that I'm not allowed to defend an author whose work I enjoy if they happen to be a woman or write a female protagonist. Thanks for reminding me.

Windlbade: starscream planned the bombing that killed innocents we have to take him down.
Chromia: I did. I killed them.
Windblade: -groan- alright I guess just don't do it again.

[RevTibe]

Windlbade: starscream planned the bombing that killed innocents we have to take him down.
Chromia: I did. I killed them.
Windblade: -groan- alright I guess just don't do it again.

Yeah, no hint of greater consequences for Chromia's crime is a flaw - you quoted me talking about that flaw on the previous page of this thread. I'm not sure what your point is? Are you trying to say that since there is at least one flaw in something I like, I cannot defend its overall quality?

[Randomhero]

Windlbade: starscream planned the bombing that killed innocents we have to take him down.
Chromia: I did. I killed them.
Windblade: -groan- alright I guess just don't do it again.

Yeah, no hint of greater consequences for Chromia's crime is a flaw - you quoted me talking about that flaw on the previous page of this thread. I'm not sure what your point is? Are you trying to say that since there is at least one flaw in something I like, I cannot defend its overall quality?

My point is that I can't say Scott is a good writer when the entire plot of that comic is trying to find proof that starscream is behind a terrorist attack only for the protagonist's best friend to be the culprit and do nothing about it but tell her to not do it again. That's not good writing.

[Va'al]

Psst. I also have an agenda. It's why I infiltrated Seibertron in the first place.

Once I am ruler of everything, there will be no new comics. Only comics adaptations of Das Kapital. With robots.

[RevTibe]

Windlbade: starscream planned the bombing that killed innocents we have to take him down.
Chromia: I did. I killed them.
Windblade: -groan- alright I guess just don't do it again.

Yeah, no hint of greater consequences for Chromia's crime is a flaw - you quoted me talking about that flaw on the previous page of this thread. I'm not sure what your point is? Are you trying to say that since there is at least one flaw in something I like, I cannot defend its overall quality?

My point is that I can't say Scott is a good writer when the entire plot of that comic is trying to find proof that starscream is behind a terrorist attack only for the protagonist's best friend to be the culprit and do nothing about it but tell her to not do it again. That's not good writing.

...that's not the plot of Vol.1. Hell, there's a comment in issue 2; "Starscream's goons would've made sure [the evidence] got swept away with all the other rubble." The bombing is very secondary to the business surrounding the damage to Metroplex.

Issue 1: Metroplex is glitching out, Starscream acts threateningly towards Windblade. Windblade concludes Starscream's untrustworthy. Bomb!
Issue 2: Starscream continues to act threateningly, Windblade concludes the person threatening her is the one who tried to kill her, possibly to stop her investigation. Finds lead pointing to Starscream mining Metroplex, damaging him in the process. Starscream's goons attack Windblade's group.
Issue 3: Starscream captures Windblade and co. The interrogation reveals that Starscream didn't conduct the bombing and hasn't caused the primary damage to Metroplex. Windblade and co. escape.
Issue 4: Conclusion + revelations. Chromia dunnit, damage addressed, Starscream isn't to blame. Windblade concludes that a) Cybertron will be a better place if she generally acts in support of Starscream b) revealing the events of this plot to the general public will ruin the peace she wishes to achieve. Neither of these points balance on Chromia getting a hanging or whatever - in fact, it might damage the peace by bringing her crimes to light (that's why I mentioned hoping for a secret trial on Caminus).

You speak as though the story hinged on Chromia being punished, but no, it didn't. It stood out, it's a flaw, but Starscream was still the antagonist, the character whose conflict with the protagonist needed a satisfying conclusion, which I believe issue 4 provided.

[Prowl4]

I'd appreciate if this hack mairghread scott left transformers. Awful writer.

I don't think that'needs to be called for. Perstonally I'm not a fan of her writing. I'm gonna say something and I'm going to apologize if any one is offended but personally I feel she's only the writer because she's a woman and she wrote two episodes of Prime and IDW thinks that's enough to give her a shot. Yes she wrote beast hunters but I didn't really enjoy that series. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound terrible like that but she came on the the main comics at a time of "hey everyone! Look female transformers! We're gonna have a comic with a female transformer as the main character in it, it's going to be written by a woman and drawn by a woman too!" It felt really forced and in my opinion the execution wasn't very good. Anymore it just feels like she's writing this because she's a woman who has a small history with the brand.

Again I apologize, I don't like saying something like that but it's a vibe I get off. I've said before I didn't enjoy the first two Windblade comics she wrote but I am happy to give till all are one a chance.

She is there because she's a woman and she's pushing her agenda through the material which is uttered revolting in my opinion. She needs to go as her work is terrible.

From comics to politics, when a woman is employed in an area with a male majority, you see this... odd core of people who talk of them being unqualified, only being there because of gender - stranger still, it's vanishingly rare, if not non-existent, for this group to question the qualifications of any men working in that area.

...really makes you wonder about this "she's only hired because she's a woman!" crowd.

When a woman is criticised you see this, weirdos jumping to the defense of the woman based on her gender. People in glass houses.

Hey man, I'm just speaking in defense of an author whose work I enjoy. I'm happy talking about Windblade and Scott in terms of the merits of the work, you folks are the ones dragging gender into it.

Is the author a woman? Is the main character she uses female?

Dang, you're right. Sorry man, I forgot that I'm not allowed to defend an author whose work I enjoy if they happen to be a woman or write a female protagonist. Thanks for reminding me.

Her work is dreadful it's primarily about how the rules do not apply to fembots she showcased this in idw and rid. The idw and rid stuff she writes is extremely fembot heavy.

Idw has inserted fembots that face no real consequences such as death. In fairness to Michael bay he killed the fembots in rotf but comics and tv series won't.

Roberts stuff was good but it's completely disturbing with the homosexual material.

[Va'al]

Her work is dreadful it's primarily about how the rules do not apply to fembots she showcased this in idw and rid. The idw and rid stuff she writes is extremely fembot heavy.

Idw has inserted fembots that face no real consequences such as death. In fairness to Michael bay he killed the fembots in rotf but comics and tv series won't.

Roberts stuff was good but it's completely disturbing with the homosexual material.

You're starting to border into behaviour I am not a fan of.
Disagreement, even visceral - if you really must - is fine. Labelling homosexuality, gender issues, social commentary as 'disturbing' or 'making you sick' is not.

[Va'al]

Randomhero, in response to your stuff about 'reasons' to hire Scott, she's worked and is working on a number of franchises, too: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3309878/

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I am of the party of "as long as the story works and the writing is good, I'll enjoy it and go with it." What we have here in the current ongoings is a great example of world building and actually attempting to create a transformers universe that is more than war. Transformers doesn't always need to be about war. And transformers are very different from us, so some arguments really shouldn't be valid complaints. Now, I am not saying Scott's work was as good as Barber's and Roberts, but she was finding her feet. Remember when Barber took over RiD? Many didn't like it and found it boring, but it picked up speed and to many on this site is now the favorite comic. Scott had her 4 issue series, which was good and I loved, but then the 2nd volume was not ideal for her. 3 issues were combiner wars stuff and the remaining 4 had to cram in 4 or 5 different colonies, so really this couldn't possibly be ideal. We really need to see how she does with an ongoing, giving it the better part of a year before true judgement be called.

[Prowl4]

Her work is dreadful it's primarily about how the rules do not apply to fembots she showcased this in idw and rid. The idw and rid stuff she writes is extremely fembot heavy.

Idw has inserted fembots that face no real consequences such as death. In fairness to Michael bay he killted the fembots in rotf but comics and tv series won't.

Roberts stuff was good but it's completely disturbing with the homosexual material.

You're starting to border into behaviour I am not a fan of.
Disagreement, even visceral - if you really must - is fine. Labelling homosexuality, gender issues, social commentary as 'disturbing' or 'making you sick' is not.

Grow up, I can have an opinion.

[Burn]

Grow up, I can have an opinion.

You can have an opinion, but you need to be respectful. Not everyone will agree with you, telling people to "grow up" is blatantly disrespectful.

Have a warning.