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[Underc3211]

Drift i might pick up, croshairs and megatron yes, and probably barricade since I never got the mold.

But dear god does prime need paint. At least they rereleased the good legion but it looks like a production sample not a finished product. Also this is the second time movie grimlock used that mold and they still haven't retooled or done anything to change it.

[Deadput]

i dont understand what the debate is about, Beserker is in the film. We see him in that same shot with megatron and onslought in the trailer.

He's right in the middle of this pic:




And if onslought gets a toy, it will just be a retool of rotf longhaul since they reused that model for him. Hell, hes even the same colour, so technically we already have a toy of him in the form of Longhaul. I have a junker with some sump truck parts missing, that will make a pefect Movie onslought.

Uhh Will that's not Berserker that's Hooligan the two have different models Berserker is just Crankcase with according to the toy no new parts while Hooligan uses Crowbar but with new vehicle kibble.

I wouldn't be talking about Berserker like this if he actually was in some trailers.




Is the same as Crowbar




And a retool of Long Haul wouldn't even work with the two turning into completely different vehicles in different proportions Long Haul's dump truck toy is short while Onslaught's tow truck Truck is pretty darn long.

Onslaught also has a minigun on his left arm and a big claw thing on his right.

[william-james88]

i dont understand what the debate is about, Beserker is in the film. We see him in that same shot with megatron and onslought in the trailer.

He's right in the middle of this pic:




And if onslought gets a toy, it will just be a retool of rotf longhaul since they reused that model for him. Hell, hes even the same colour, so technically we already have a toy of him in the form of Longhaul. I have a junker with some sump truck parts missing, that will make a pefect Movie onslought.

Uhh Will that's not Berserker that's Hooligan the two have different models Berserker is just Crankcase with according to the toy no new parts while Hooligan uses Crowbar but with new vehicle kibble.
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When did we know that guy was gonna be called hooligan in the film?

[Deadput]

Uhh Will that's not Berserker that's Hooligan the two have different models Berserker is just Crankcase with according to the toy no new parts while Hooligan uses Crowbar but with new vehicle kibble.
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When did we know that guy was gonna be called hooligan in the film?[/quote]

The very beginning?

Well if I remember right his name along with Mohawk who is confirmed by the way Ryan (Seibertron) can vouch for me came from the very same rumor which spoke of Squeeks (who was revealed and confirmed that day) Cogman, Mini Dinobots, Megatron's jet mode and I think the TRF as well.

This also came from the very same website that talked about rumors that came true back in AOE during the very early days including Hound, Drift, Lockdown, Dinobots and maybe Galvatron too.

Hooligan and Mohawk's names were confirmed by people on set and the times Bay invited the fans to two separate events I would not be making claims if I did not know they were true plus I know things plenty of little things but still things.

Edit: To clarify Hooligan is the rusty teal VW van.

[BombshellDaBug]

Am I the only one who likes these Legion figures? (Joking.)

Jokes aside, the only ones I really dig are Grimlock, Megatron, Crosshairs and Dragonstorm (not revealed in this post, but seen at Toy Fair). Grimlock at least has movie-accurate paint this time around, though if it's suffering from too much mold degradation I can fall back on the AoE Legion I already own.

Megatron looks really good for a Legion. That being said, all of these TLK Megatron toys look great. And it's nice to finally get a Legion Crosshairs. It's a shame that Dragonstorm now appears to be showing up in a later wave, though. He's the new character that I'm most curious about. Plus, you'd think Hasbro would want to promote a newer character with a new mold over repaints depicting established characters.

[william-james88]

Edit: To clarify Hooligan is the rusty teal VW van.

I am sorry but I just dont understand. Didnt you just say that Hooligan is the guy who looks like beserker? Thats exactly what you wrote above when you said I was wrong.

So here is my question, who is the dread character in that shot if it isnt beserker? And where was it confirmed that the dread is not beserker? I have looked through our news and there is 0 official confirmation that its not beserker we see in that pic. If you find the article, please let me know because I would like to be informed as much as possible.

As far as I know, that dread in the shot is Beserker. The toys dont always look exactly like the CG models, Barricade is a good example of that. A better example is leader Optimus whos toy looks nothing like the CG model. And yet that is a toy of Optimus, so this Beserker toy is a toy of that Dread in the image, simple as that.

[Deadput]

Edit: To clarify Hooligan is the rusty teal VW van.

I am sorry but I just dont understand. Didnt you just say that Hooligan is the guy who looks like beserker? Thats exactly what you wrote above when you said I was wrong.

So here is my question, who is the dread character in that shot if it isnt beserker? And where was it confirmed that the dread is not beserker? I have looked through our news and there is 0 official confirmation that its not beserker we see in that pic. If you find the article, please let me know because I would like to be informed as much as possible.

As far as I know, that dread in the shot is Beserker. The toys dont always look exactly like the CG models, Barricade is a good example of that. A better example is leader Optimus whos toy looks nothing like the CG model. And yet that is a toy of Optimus, so this Beserker toy is a toy of that Dread in the image, simple as that.

Edit: I can't find it on Seibertron but Tfw2005 has the original "rumors" http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/12/06/transformers-last-knight-plot-roundup-329777

Hooligan is the dread in the trailer but Berserker is a different character is what I said the dread in the trailer has rusty Vw parts their hard to spot but they are there when Seibertron and all the other fans went to the first event somebody there confirmed that the Vw truck is a character named Hooligan who looks like a dread.

I don't just look at Seibertron stuff most of the things I know (besides the other things I know) come from people who talked to people who work on set and from the Tfw2005 movie board and there is info coming from there all the time.

Plus Berserker uses Crankcase's cgi model which is not who the character in the trialer looks like Hooligan is a Crowbar reuse so if Berserker is Hooligan not only do they get the names wrong but they have the entire character's robot and vehicle wrong.

Edit: The face is not the same either
These faces


Are not this face



It's this face (Crowbar from DOTM)

[william-james88]

I see now. We will see what happens but it wouldnt be the first time a toy is off from what we see in the film.

[Deadput]

I see now. We will see what happens but it wouldnt be the first time a toy is off from what we see in the film.

Not saying that can't be the case (I'm a terrible unfocused explainer I could of told you this much better in a real face to face conversation I'm just horrible with a keyboard)

In fact I do have a feeling that Berserker could just be a replacement for Hooligan in the toyline since Volkswagen is a little stingy when it comes to "war" media but Takara was able to get the licences for the VW beetle so who knows the Crankcase head was seen as a prop in a behind the scenes video but for like 2 seconds I'm pretty sure most people would of missed it.

But if Berserker is a replacement then why did Hasbro go with a remake of the Crankcase body when they already had a mold which they just used in that AOE boxset that came with Rollbar who was just a repaint and not his own mold instead of making a toy of Crowbar who never got the deluxe treatment and would be much more accurate.

I'm thinking Berserker is just a minor character going to be killed off like Sideways in ROTF but I'm not saying Berserker is in the film I'm just saying he most likely is and if not then well that would be weird considering Hasbro's current thinking of keeping toy only characters with new molds to a minimum that sort of started with Dotm and then kept going in Aoe.

[Carnivius_Prime]

I didn't even realise that Rippersnapper mold had already been used for AoE Grimlock in that film so doing it once is bad enough but doing it twice is just super lazy. And they used it for G1 Grimlock too? I actually had that mold briefly as Cindersaur with a nice G1 redeco of Smokescreen in a double pack I got cheap from Tescos. It's not a great toy. Fine for the combiner team it goes with to get some more play value I suppose but on it's own not so much. Robot mode ain't too bad but that definitely not t-rex mode just don't cut it.

(The Pretender Grimlock inner figure was quite fun for a simplified smaller G1 Grimmy though)

[Kurona]

You know what's even weirder about this mold being used for Grimlock than when it was used for him in AOE? It's being released in a line where the same mold is explicitly being used for a combiner (Infernocus).

[RAR]

I agree Legends Needs a Movie line or they need to do something suitable that is like the Cyberverse commander class - with so many large robots suitable for it - and considering that they have plenty to catch up on from previous Movies too.

A decently engineered Commander Class Longhaul for example would look terrific and with some tweaks they might even be able to get several remoulds out of it too.

Then they can use the Legion class for small characters who make sense in that size - like we still are lacking a Transformable Brains toy for example.

I think the DX-9 people or someone like that should consider making that sort of thing too.

Hopefully more original moulds will show up in later waves. The number of repaints and mild remoulds in the 1st wave or two of various sizes is a bit concerning.

Especially when they have a whole movie worth of stuff to catch up on.

I was expecting to get some small Dinobots - not the same Grimlock again that isn't even Grimlock. The Terrorcons are a proof of concept that they can work at that size.

I mean how can they not make the dinobabies in legion class ? or perhaps a deluxe class 3 pack ?

[Deadput]

You know what's even weirder about this mold being used for Grimlock than when it was used for him in AOE? It's being released in a line where the same mold is explicitly being used for a combiner (Infernocus).

That Rippersnapper mold is going to be up there with the Classics seeker mold in the "Most recycled" category.

Pretty sure some of those Grimlocks are going to suffer from GPS in a few years.

[Sigma Magnus]

Pretty sure some of those Grimlocks are going to suffer from GPS in a few years.

Didn't they fix that, though?

[Kurona]

Pretty sure some of those Grimlocks are going to suffer from GPS in a few years.

Didn't they fix that, though?

Yeah, the last actual time it happened was... 2005, I recall? Which was an isolated case and until that point there hadn't been a GPS incident for some time. Again, this is just from memory, so I could be totally wrong.

If I am right though, quick note is that 2005 was 12 years ago. Let that sink in. I'm 20, I'm not supposed to feel old this quickly dammit.

[-Kanrabat-]

Pretty sure some of those Grimlocks are going to suffer from GPS in a few years.

Didn't they fix that, though?

Yeah, the last actual time it happened was... 2005, I recall? Which was an isolated case and until that point there hadn't been a GPS incident for some time. Again, this is just from memory, so I could be totally wrong.

If I am right though, quick note is that 2005 was 12 years ago. Let that sink in. I'm 20, I'm not supposed to feel old this quickly dammit.

Don't jnow what year it's from, but some years ago, I experienced a live GPS incident. The Chebaca part of TF Xover Millenium Falcon just ASSPLAOED in my hands.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Pretty sure some of those Grimlocks are going to suffer from GPS in a few years.

Didn't they fix that, though?

Yeah, the last actual time it happened was... 2005, I recall? Which was an isolated case and until that point there hadn't been a GPS incident for some time. Again, this is just from memory, so I could be totally wrong.

If I am right though, quick note is that 2005 was 12 years ago. Let that sink in. I'm 20, I'm not supposed to feel old this quickly dammit.

The youngest victim is Protoform Starscream from 2007, 10 years old.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Pretty sure some of those Grimlocks are going to suffer from GPS in a few years.

Didn't they fix that, though?

Yeah, the last actual time it happened was... 2005, I recall? Which was an isolated case and until that point there hadn't been a GPS incident for some time. Again, this is just from memory, so I could be totally wrong.

If I am right though, quick note is that 2005 was 12 years ago. Let that sink in. I'm 20, I'm not supposed to feel old this quickly dammit.

Don't jnow what year it's from, but some years ago, I experienced a live GPS incident. The Chebaca part of TF Xover Millenium Falcon just ASSPLAOED in my hands.

That happened to mine too. sad

[Deadput]

Pretty sure some of those Grimlocks are going to suffer from GPS in a few years.

Didn't they fix that, though?

Should of put a /s at the end of my sentence.

Yes I'm aware of the fix but lets wait 15 years and see what happens there eh?

[Va'al]

In spite of the official street date (24th April) and the expected retail price, some Transformers: The Last Knight figures are starting to crop up on the usual avenues of eBay - even through some actual retailers rather than private individuals. Fellow Seibertronian Flashwave reports on Indiana based Kokomo Toys and Collectibles, for example.

If you're really hungering for the new figures, this is an avenue you might want to take, or you could wait just a couple of weeks, and expect most retailers (including site sponsors) to stock the new live-action movie toyline too!

[Va'al]

As expected as early sellers, we also have some early in-hand images of Transformers: The Last Knight toys - namely voyagers Hound and Megatron! The images comes from グエン ドゥック ヒエン from Facebook Group Transformers Club, and have been mirrored below for your viewing convenience. What do you think of the shots of redesigned Autobot and Decepticon characters below? Enough to keep your interest up? Join the discussion in the Energon Pub, and let us know!

EDIT: Updated with video showing the two figures, by Le Danh!

[Nuclearxpotato]

Kokomo...

KOKOMO???

My home town got Transformers??? When I lived there, my Target never got the second half of Thrilling 30 and missed out on Combiner Wars ENTIRELY!

[Alpha Dominus]

Even though I may not be the biggest admirer of the Bayformer universe I gotta admit, these toy designs do look great. Both bot and alt modes look awesome!

[RAR]

I was hoping that Megs' wings could swing forwards for supersonic flight :/

[Carnivius_Prime]

Yep I'm having that Megatron. You richer folk can get the lovely Leader but this Voyager will do for me. Hound looks great too. I missed out on his AoE toy so may pick this one up instead.