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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Sagitta » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:38 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Who's saving roddy then? Who's the bets on?



Who knows? Maybe he can activate the ejection mechanism that he had Brainstorm build into the pilot's chair now that he's close enough....and send Getaway flying right into Scorp's unprotected back.

It's a thought. #-o
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:35 am

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:22 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Does this version of Grimlock have a toy representing it, or a figure that's at least close? (This is technically a toy question, but I didn't know where to ask in the toy discussion forum. Sorry.)
I got the Fansproject one for this purpose but it's not really super close, especially in T-Rex mode. Nothing's taken the comic design and really used it. MMC showed some renders so maybe in 3 or 4 years they'll deliver a Swoop ;)
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Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20

Postby ScottyP » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:23 am

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A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #20

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Here we see the fandom outside Mr. Roberts' office

Part 2 of the final story in the larger More Than Meets The Eye and Lost Light saga has arrived, with a big promise found in the solicitation: at last, Rodimus and Getaway are set to do battle!

To make this a long, wordy review will almost definitely spoil someone on something even if I don't intend to. If you're here just to find an answer to the question "is this issue good?", then the answer is "Yes, it's great - and you can stop reading this review now."

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Two images from page one? Yes. Just go read it.

As highlighted by Va'al in his review of issue 19, there is a great deal going on. In issue 20, there still is, but the amount that is addressed in satisfying ways is nothing short of incredible. While not every pertinent question is answered, those within the context of the main events of this particular issue get some form of an answer. Telling you how complete these answers are may imply plot details, which I'm desperately trying to avoid in this review. Praise nonetheless is deserved for the pacing and intensity delivered by every page of this important chapter of the story.

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"Guess Who The Mecannibals Are Having For Dinner?"

There is one side plot in particular among the several that get attention which felt somewhat truncated and short, at least upon a first reading. If you know me at all, you might know what I'm referring to, but if not, you probably will after reading. After taking some time to think about it over the last several days, it was close to the best choice that could have been made considering the wider narrative. Did it get space? Yes. Would I have liked for it to have gotten more? Yes. Would the plot have been better served with said "more" space? No. This issue had a purpose, and this part of the story was not the focus for a reason.

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Actually lol'd

The focus is exactly what was promised in the solicitation: Rodimus vs Getaway. Getaway stole the Lost Light during a mutiny in More Than Meets The Eye #50, which was published on March 9th, 2016. Two years, four months, and two days later, the confrontation you've been waiting for arrives. It's the focus of the issue, it deserves that focus, and James Roberts absolutely delivers. Page 16 is absolutely chill-inducing, and the entire creative team deserves your $4 pretty much just based on it alone.

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Yeah he did terrible things, but he throws one hell of a 4th of July party!

Speaking of the creative team: Casey. Freaking. Coller. One of the great missed opportunities of the IDW run is that Coller wasn't chosen for more interior work. Ever since the incredible Ironhide mini-series, I've been absolutely blown away by his work and the output on Lost Light #20 did so all over again. I couldn't post many of the best panels without spoiling stuff that shouldn't be spoiled, but his work on the action scenes breathes another level of life into them, telling a story within the story. The panels with more talking look great too (scroll up for that look at Rung and Wipe Out - wow!) and if this ends up being Casey Coller's last work on an IDW Transformers book, then it's one hell of a last hurrah.

Joana Lafuente's colors aren't to be ignored either, bringing the look right into "definitely Lost Light" territory. Despite there now being six interior artists (apologies if I missed someone) throughout the run of the series, you can always know what book it is just by taking a glance at a few pages. Tom B. Long provides all the "THUD"s, "HFF"s, and "THWACK"s you could ask for along with the usual stellar letter work, with some clever twists in the "speech" of the alien characters that calls right back to a previous plot-line. Regular series artist Jack Lawrence provides two covers, with Lafuente again on colors, with the "A" cover shown in this news story's thumbnail. As always, you can look up all the covers, credits, and potentially-spoiler-laden character appearances in our Vector Sigma Database entry for Lost Light #20.

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American translation: "will always sound stupid"

This is what you've been waiting for. The main undercurrent for the main character of the series crashes to the shore in Lost Light #20, and it's a great ride. Read, experience, and enjoy. There are only so many more times you can.

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Bonus! James Roberts' soundtrack suggestions for this issue were not available as of this writing, either that or I've forgotten how Twitter works on a desktop. Here's my own suggestion, because why not, and because it just works for this one:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:43 am

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A very very good review, and deserved praise for Coller!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:06 am

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I'm happy to hear that this delivers on the promise of getaway getting exactly what he deserves. I'm going to enjoy reading this one I think.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:41 am

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This was a really enjoyable issue.

I honestly didn't expect to see this part of the plot wrap so soon, and it was VERY satisfying. Star Saber went down quickly, but he's been little more than a plot device in this series so that's to be expected. The Getaway/Rodimus confrontation was perfect.

With Getaway gone it looks like Roberts will have plenty of space to tell the Grand Architect's story. I wonder to what degree it will intersect with the Unicron event. Is he "the Beast" Tyrest spoke of? Is Unicron coming through that portal at the end?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:08 am

MrBlack wrote:This was a really enjoyable issue.

I honestly didn't expect to see this part of the plot wrap so soon, and it was VERY satisfying. Star Saber went down quickly, but he's been little more than a plot device in this series so that's to be expected. The Getaway/Rodimus confrontation was perfect.

With Getaway gone it looks like Roberts will have plenty of space to tell the Grand Architect's story. I wonder to what degree it will intersect with the Unicron event. Is he "the Beast" Tyrest spoke of? Is Unicron coming through that portal at the end?



You’re not reading the other books are you? Unicron has been slumbering pretending to be a planet for eons. There’s no portal for him to come through and lost light is not partaking in the Unicron event
. Everything we’re gettjng is what James set up 6 years ago. this is their story.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:16 am

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I am reading the other books.

I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:30 am

Good issue I give it an 8/10.

Loved the way one particular Bot bought the farm. Another long awaited "conclusion" was too cut and dry though.

Not sure what that was at the end though but I'm looking forward to finding out in the next issue.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:31 am

MrBlack wrote:I am reading the other books.

I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.



There is no crossover. It’s been said several times for the past year that LL is not contributing or crossing with the Unicron event. They’re leaving it alone so James can finish his story without interruptions. Why do you think that all the interviews James has not been part of. It’s all John and Alex
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:38 am

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Randomhero is right, not to say that James could have let barber know how things were going to end if he wanted to add anything from ll to the last issues of unicron but I sincerely doubt it. So sit back and watch the ll's last flight...then go and see Cybertron being eaten :-P
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:41 am

Look at it this way, MTMTE/LL is a fairly isolated book. It’s james story. Yes it’s crossed over with Dark Cybertron and contributed very lightly with Combiner wars and the only hiccup in the entire series has been bringing Megatron in which he got rid of last year to get back on track.

Does shoehorning unicron into the finale of the whole thing really work with everything james Roberts has done? Unicron has his own series and Optimus Prime will be dealing with what’s happening on a earth with Unicron because John Barber has been laying seeds to cross with unicron in that book since the start of 2018.

Can you actually be satified with adding anything unicron to MTMTE and lost light at the end very end where there will not be a pay off of him because it’s happening elsewhere?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:54 am

Randomhero wrote:
MrBlack wrote:I am reading the other books.

I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.



There is no crossover. It’s been said several times for the past year that LL is not contributing or crossing with the Unicron event. They’re leaving it alone so James can finish his story without interruptions. Why do you think that all the interviews James has not been part of. It’s all John and Alex

;)^ Which works for me! I'm not even that hyped for Barber's stuff.

I can't stand most of OP's cast anyway. Or the humans, the Hasbro-verse shoe in's and now Beast War characters as Unicron's minions...? It's no wonder why JR won't be part of the this tie in or the reboot.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:04 am

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Top notch issue. One death a little quick, the other was perfect. Rodimus emerging from the fires in his proper colours with Getaway was sublime!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:15 am

YoungPrime wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
MrBlack wrote:I am reading the other books.

I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.



There is no crossover. It’s been said several times for the past year that LL is not contributing or crossing with the Unicron event. They’re leaving it alone so James can finish his story without interruptions. Why do you think that all the interviews James has not been part of. It’s all John and Alex

;)^ Which works for me! I'm not even that hyped for Barber's stuff.

I can't stand most of OP's cast anyway. Or the humans, the Hasbro-verse shoe in's and now Beast War characters as Unicron's minions...? It's no wonder why JR won't be part of the this tie or the reboot.



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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:44 am

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Randomhero wrote:
MrBlack wrote:I am reading the other books.

I think it's still open to have at least a minor crossover. Lost Light seems to be running behind the other books in the timeline. We saw Unicron wake, but haven't seen exactly where he came from. I think there's enough there for it to be an open question, if unlikely.



There is no crossover. It’s been said several times for the past year that LL is not contributing or crossing with the Unicron event. They’re leaving it alone so James can finish his story without interruptions. Why do you think that all the interviews James has not been part of. It’s all John and Alex


ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero is right, not to say that James could have let barber know how things were going to end if he wanted to add anything from ll to the last issues of unicron but I sincerely doubt it. So sit back and watch the ll's last flight...then go and see Cybertron being eaten :-P
Or maybe MrBlack's just throwing out some fun speculation!

I know it may seem harmless but the wholesale dismissal of conversation like this drives folks away.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:54 am

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Sorry, wasn't supposed to sound quite like that :-) was supposed to be letting him down gently that there's no crossover. Suppose there could be a last minute surprise
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:44 am

A little visual cameo of Rodimus Prime towards the end of this run would be nice. I mean they've already completely botched the Beast Wars cameos by leaving them as generic soldiers. So I think having the Chosen One, who actually legitimately defeated the original Unicron appear in some way would be the only potential tie in/crossover necessary from LL.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:11 pm

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I gotta disagree with bringing Megatron in being a "hiccup." Roberts has done a lot of things badly in MTMTE and LL, but Megatron's story was not one of them. It's one of the few redeeming parts the book has. Until the end, anyway. The ending of Dying of the Light was f**king horrible. But like I said before, maybe this last arc will bring everything together. It seems to be improving in story telling.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:15 pm

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1) I felt Star Saber went far too fast. He had Defensor syndrome here (not over that, thanks for asking) in a horrible way. we didn't even see his Robot mode! That was kinda sad, but also insanely awesome. Proof Roberts has once again made a great Cyclonus.

2) Whirl and his scraplets. again proof Whirl is another one of the best IDW bots. That was great! And great use of them to eat Getaway, perfect ending for him. Especially since Rodimus overcame a lot of personal stuff right beforehand. Also, still kinda sad that those guys still ate like 25 crewmembers.

3) the sparkeaters felt disposed of a bit too fast too, especially since numerous ones died last issue. Eh, things happen.

The sky torn asunder. I really want to know who the grand architect is and what this is... Maybe it's that creature from "Call of the Primitives?"
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:54 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Spoilers ahead!

1) I felt Star Saber went far too fast. He had Defensor syndrome here (not over that, thanks for asking) in a horrible way. we didn't even see his Robot mode! That was kinda sad, but also insanely awesome. Proof Roberts has once again made a great Cyclonus.

2)


After how Defensor went out, I really loved seeing Starsaber go out like a bitch!



This was a great issue, just simply great. Every thing clicked together just right. We finally saw Rodimus Prime. Kudos to Roberts and Coller and the whole team!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Sagitta » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:56 pm

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Anyone catch that Rung was familiar, using his own personal memory, with the sound/impression/insignia the telepaths chanted after the countdown? Unless he was "off panel" he wasn't seen in Megatron's class on the Knights' various coat of arms. :-?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:06 am

Sagitta wrote:Anyone catch that Rung was familiar, using his own personal memory, with the sound/impression/insignia the telepaths chanted after the countdown? Unless he was "off panel" he wasn't seen in Megatron's class on the Knights' various coat of arms. :-?


Information creep. Rung doesn’t remember much of his past
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