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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:25 pm

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Flashwave wrote:Oh MY DEAR GOLLY GOD They are gonna conk "Primus" on the back of the head and induce Transformation straight out of the MTMTE comic with a drunk Ultra Magnus... Barber has this story more interconnected than the MCU and I love it, but God is that man a scary master manipulator

If that is what happens, you sir are a genius. I would not have thought of that.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Halonic » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:41 pm

Why do I get the feeling that Rung has a better plan but isn’t coming back from it...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Sagitta » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:17 pm

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Optimus Prime13th wrote:Is that skids attacking Rung?! Or has Rung finally lost his marbles

Rung remembering how he and Skids first met.



The memory was of Skids pulling Rung away into the vent system when he was first attacked by the sparkeater in MtMtE issue 3.

Rung and Skids first met in issue 2. He's the one who mentioned the Lost Light was on a quest. (With Swerve offering a bit more "detail" such as the "infinity gate" :lol:)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:58 pm

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I really hope I didn't just witness Rung delete his memory of Skids, especially after his sentence to Chromedome considering that is what Dome did when his significant others died and Nautica had her emotions tied to Skids removed
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Sagitta » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:12 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I really hope I didn't just witness Rung delete his memory of Skids...


Patient files are a bit different than personal memories. Then again, the two were friends.

The comment Rung made to Chromedome & Rewind could have also been self directed come to think of it.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ArmadaPrime » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:36 pm

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Welp, seems like Rung expects this plan to kill him.
Can't think of any other reason to delete his patient files than to protect confidentiality (he takes his job very seriously) in the event that he wasn't around...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Halonic » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:16 am

Even. Team. Whirl.

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Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24

Postby Va'al » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:32 am

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(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
All they wanted was an adventure. Now, as worlds turn to dust and every sacred truth is undone, as everything they’ve run from catches up with them and every gruesome future comes to pass.

Only two issues left! Closing a story six years in the making! Don’t miss the B cover by beloved Transformers artist Geoff Senior!


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Story
This is it. This is the end. Almost, I know. But this is the end. This is the flash before the finale, and everything we've seen in a long series, with stories starting all the way back in the first Chaos seeds reaching some kind of conclusion, before they actually conclude next issue, and attempting some form of closure. Starting with gods and life.

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fight! super robot lifeforms


A first warning: if you're expecting a big action scene, or even a series of action scenes, how are you still living in denial with Lost Light? There is plenty of action, of course - they're fighting a planet from a planet, one which is also a giant robotic being powered by bigoted spite - but James Roberts' strength is still in the smaller moments between characters. Those, in this issue, abound.

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MVPs


And in that action frame with people stories, then, we have the one, bigger story that no one expected until a couple of issue ago, the one that people were most likely to forget, most likely to get wrung, but that somehow still rang a bell, that somehow still brings a conclusion after a conclusion, even when plans only work in panicked extremis.

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...


Where previous attempts at balancing heartfelt, passionate dialogue/monologue during action have been admittedly questionable (at least in terms of pacing), this issue seems to have found the better solution - tonally, pacing-wise, structurally - to weigh out the different aspects to telling this type of ending, using strengths and weaknesses alike.

Art

Brendan Cahill returns for the issue, after we last saw him in #22, and whatever he's been doing in the meantime has only made him more powerful. The issue contains some of the most tender and heart-rending moments for pretty much the entirety of the cast present in its pages, and Cahill's art has been able to work all of the right emotions into the motions, the gestures, the silent panels, all while keeping giant Functionist Primus in the peripheral vision of it all.

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Take a load of this, too


And Joana Lafuente has made sure that the peripheral vision is something no one can ignore, be it explosions, sudden changes in light sources and direction, mood flickering, tone shifting, crucial moments and smaller, tender interactions - the light and colour fit all, snugly, and just right.

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it's really hard to spotlight this without spoilers


It's almost impossible to distinguish Curtis and Tom by now, and if you're not in on the joke, please bear with me - but what Long is managing to do with fonts is truly impressive, given the already emotional charge of pretty much everything else in the visual aspect of the book.

All the covers, as usual, can be found in our Vector Sigma Database entry here, though the one spotlighted in the thumbnail is once more the Geoff Senior / Josh Burcham variant featuring Rung himself, for once taking charge of the situation - almost like Rodimus.


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

And so, where do we stand now? This is the finale, no matter what the next issue decides to conjure up in its denouement, and as an ending it fits everything that the creators have set up from the start - sometimes literally, sometimes thematically - and it will definitely leave an impact on readers and TF lore (here's hoping, at least), for the principles and themes if not the execution.

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also, gayest issue ever


Does it cancel out my troubles with the series up to now? No, but I don't think anything will. What it does do is sidestep to tell a wider story that no longer focuses on the alleged main characters, while also focusing on those very same characters - from Team Rodimus to Megatron's AntiVocationist League, to the Scavengers and more - in a way that we may have expected after all, and reminding us very much so of the influences, the setting, and the lineage of this type of story, and of Transformers as an icon.

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:37 am

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A good review Va'al, I'm going to miss this series. Its mot been perfect but I've liked it and been enjoyed which is all I can ask for really.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:23 am

It started off a little rocky for me but overall I find this to be the best Transformers ongoing story to date.

Despite some minor issues, to me MTMTE/LL still puts most of the previous comics, TV cartoons and ALL of that Bay crap to shame.

I can live without Barber's ongoing but Roberts work will truly be missed. :CON:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:33 am

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Megatron just can't forgive himself.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:47 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron just can't forgive himself.
:idea:

And here I thought all my feelings about this book had been wrung out like a dishcloth. Good catch!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:15 am

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So if Rodimus used the Warren to send the message back into the past, can't they use it to travel to the Unicron story's time and join the fight?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Doctor McGrath » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:52 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:So if Rodimus used the Warren to send the message back into the past, can't they use it to travel to the Unicron story's time and join the fight?


Are they even aware of Unicron?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:50 am

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Doctor McGrath wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So if Rodimus used the Warren to send the message back into the past, can't they use it to travel to the Unicron story's time and join the fight?


Are they even aware of Unicron?
Nope.

Or at least not yet.

If Unicron really does want to wipe out Cybertronian life, maybe they're on his clean-up quest list?

With one issue left I don't know how to feel about it. On one hand, "Primus" vs Unicron yes please, on the other, is there time for that now?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:55 am

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Honestly if they pulled Primus vs unicron now it would feel cheap, there's two issues of unicron left and op 25 to provide closure. A fight like Primus vs unicron needs build up, something they just don't have and would cheapen everything. Best save it for the next contuity ;-)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:06 am

Motto: "Individual freedom above all else."
Besides, with the Functionist Council wiped out, can anyone even control "Primus?" Maybe Rodimus with the Matrix? I would love it if Megatron took control of it/him like Fort Max did with the dead Titan in Titans Return.

As for a "Primus" vs. "Unicron" fight being too late, I think it all depends on what happens next. If this had been planned well in advance by the writers, it can still be pulled off. Sure, it wouldn't be the actual Primus fighting the actual Unicron, but IDW is not actual G1, so it doesn't matter. We still have a total of 4 issues coming out among the 3 books, so as long as they come out in order, it should work.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby snavej » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:59 am

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'Gayest issue ever'?! Careful, that could be taken as a positive or a negative. Maybe just say something like 'Relationship development continues'.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:45 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:We still have a total of 4 issues coming out among the 3 books, so as long as they come out in order, it should work.
I'm not entirely hopeful that OP 24 and Unicron 5 won't trip over themselves. That said, the three finales have had roughly the same release order since the beginning, so although the actual release dates have drifted into the future quite a bit it seems pretty deliberate to have LL 25 -> Unicron 6 -> OP 25 so I have hope that those will be out in order or at least simultaneously.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:56 pm

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snavej wrote:'Gayest issue ever'?! Careful, that could be taken as a positive or a negative. Maybe just say something like 'Relationship development continues'.


Nope, totally gay. All the rainbow bridge. Full BiFrost. Pan-galactically queer.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:34 pm

Motto: "Individual freedom above all else."
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snavej wrote:'Gayest issue ever'?! Careful, that could be taken as a positive or a negative. Maybe just say something like 'Relationship development continues'.


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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:52 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron just can't forgive himself.

I thought that was an incredible touch.

Also, I found it fully that 2 guys present were part of the "Prime" vote and could not open their Matrices. Heck, poor Magnus just cannot catch a break
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:35 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron just can't forgive himself.

I thought that was an incredible touch.

Also, I found it fully that 2 guys present were part of the "Prime" vote and could not open their Matrices. Heck, poor Magnus just cannot catch a break
I assumed that Magnus had trouble just so he could get blown up. Like in this one other work of Transformers media ;)
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Alex Milne / Josh Perez Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25

Postby Va'al » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:54 pm

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Thanks to the source directly, artist Alex Milne over on Twitter, we have both the lineart and the main coloured cover (courtesy of regular visual collaborator Josh Perez) for the last issue of IDW Publishing's Transformers: Lost Light.

That's right, issue #25 is just round the corner - barring any bizarre scheduling issues, which would surprise absolutely no one - and a lot of readers are getting ready to deal with the aftermath of 'no comics' for a little while. In the meantime, take a look below, and let us know what you think of this homage to Milne's first cover for the series TPB, back in More Than Meets the Eye!

So IDW was kind enough to allow me to share this cover with all of you :) This is my final cover for Lost Light. My approach was to bookend this image with the first MTMTE TPB cover I did. Colors by the Amazing @dyemooch . #transformers #mtmte #lostlight #idw


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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:02 pm

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Ah, all of those characters who never did anything but stand in the background.

What purpose did characters like Hound served to the plot?
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