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[bodrock]

My Targets have wave2 Voyagers now, but still no deluxes -- some have a sale on wave1, though!

[WreckerJack]

My Target had wave 2 they day we reported on it so I did use the sightings page. I figured because the email with pics was already there that EmirateXaaron probably did find them an hour or so sooner than me so giving them credit was the fair thing to do. Either way I am just happy to have gotten Jazz during Target's 10% off sale so I can gift him to my sick friend. (She is on the mend and will be back to work shortly!) I know she wanted the RiD Jazz but I did convince her that the PotP one had nicer details.

[william-james88]

My Target had wave 2 they day we reported on it so I did use the sightings page. I figured because the email with pics was already there that EmirateXaaron probably did find them an hour or so sooner than me so giving them credit was the fair thing to do. Either way I am just happy to have gotten Jazz during Target's 10% off sale so I can gift him to my sick friend. (She is on the mend and will be back to work shortly!) I know she wanted the RiD Jazz but I did convince her that the PotP one had nicer details.

You can always show her this image to compare

POTP



RID



That Hasbro RID Jazz in vehicle mode will always look like an embarassement.

[WreckerJack]

That Hasbro RID Jazz in vehicle mode will always look like an embarassement.

Quick someone call reprolabels! I am certain she will like PotP Jazz.

[Va'al]

Directly from Hasbro, we have a new batch of official images (collected in their own gallery too) for toys 'revealed' (some more than others, admittedly) at New York Toy Fair 2018 for the Transformers: Power of the Primes line, and its various size class, from Legends to Leader, via Prime Masters and Deluxe!

The smallest Prime Masters and decoy suits include Bomb-Burst with Megatronus, Bludgeon with Quintus Prime, and Octopunch with Solus Prime; the Legends class include Tailgate (who shares the mold with Windcharger) and the Duocons Battleslash and Roadtrap, combining into Roadtrap; the Deluxes are the mold-sharing Novastar (Firestar to you and me) and Moonracer; Voyager wise we have triple changing - Elita-Infin1te combiner torso, robot and jet - Elita-1; and finally Leader with evolution gimmick for Optimus Primal and Optimal Optimus. Check them all out below, in official renders and artwork, and browse out galleries for a close look!

PRIME MASTERS














LEGEND CLASS




















DELUXE CLASS














VOYAGER CLASS








LEADER CLASS

[Munkky]

Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.

[WreckerJack]

That artwork is absolutely perfect. They need to make posters and shirts with that on it. I would buy the crap out of it.

[Burn]

Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.

Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.

It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.

[primalxconvoy]

[ZeroWolf]

Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.

Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.

It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.

Aside from when Europe got G1. 5 when did hasbro ever care about us?

[william-james88]

Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.

Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.

It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.

Aside from when Europe got G1. 5 when did hasbro ever care about us?

Are we counting China? becuse they get some pretty sweet things. Asia gets the toys earlier than others (usually), and China was the only place where the first wave of Cyber Battalion figures were available at a decent price. Plus there was the GDO line, along with the Prime First Edition line which arrived almost eveywhere except for the US. That was prepetuated in the recent RID line. And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.

Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.

[Rysquad]

I assume this means that we'll get the remaining prime masters packaged in with exclusives (repugnus, wreck gar) or they'll do a Predaking and put them in with any combiner box sets that may or may not be happening.

So does this mean inferno isn't happening? What about project storm? Seems odd to leave those things out and save them for SDCC when they'll most likely be focusing on War for Cybertron.

Whoa there, slow down those pessimistic thoughts!

First of, Inferno is still happening in Wave 3, (early) Summer. Secondly, we still have a Wave or 2 in all Classes that's unknown to us (the possible Wave 5 would be a tight squeeze, unless the WFC Trilogy is scooted up a Wave or if's released side-by-side. We can hope!). Finally, we haven't even hit Spring, let alone the half-year mark.

Project Storm is nothing more but the Authentics, as explained before.

*brings out more tissues after the images*

War for Cybertron starts in January of 2019, there are typically 4 waves in a year and Novastar is the only new figure in wave 4 as shown in the original leaks. There's no reason to believe that any new figures have yet to be revealed for potp besides exclusives.

Wave 4 of the Deluxes, but the other Classes only had 3 leaked.

Which could just mean that there are no other classes in wave 4. Much like wave 6 of Titans return.

I said it when the leak was first leaked. We're not getting anything more than what was leaked.

I think we're ALL getting a little ahead of ourselves. To my knowledge, no official source has ever said that Wave 4 will be the last of the Power of the Primes. In fact, I would say that there is no reason to believe that Novastar is the only Wave 4 figure.

We KNOW that we have to get ALL of the Prime Masters, right? Even IF Onyx ONLY comes with Predaking, (which would be unfortunate, but I can NOW see that happening) that STILL leaves four more Prime Masters. That leaves AT LEAST one more wave of Prime Masters.

Given that everything that is "officially" revealed was in that Big Leak (which didn't specify waves for Deluxes) I think they're just playing catch-up. Hasbro tries to reveal-things-without-revealing-things all the time. But, given the fallout after the PotP leak, they clearly did not intend for this leak to happen.

I think there is still a decent amount of PotPs ahead of us. Not ENOUGH, mind you... I think it probably will fizzle out the same way that Titans Return did... :/

I HAD a theory that between exclusives and box sets, we would get special editions of all Prime Masters (the likes of Blast Off) without Pretender Shells. Less confident about that, now.

But, I could be wrong. I just think we should all chill out for a sec.

I'm leaning towards box sets to complete the line.

[Rysquad]

Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.

Which retailer?

[ZeroWolf]

Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.

Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.

It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.

Aside from when Europe got G1. 5 when did hasbro ever care about us?

Are we counting China? becuse they get some pretty sweet things. Asia gets the toys earlier than others (usually), and China was the only place where the first wave of Cyber Battalion figures were available at a decent price. Plus there was the GDO line, along with the Prime First Edition line which arrived almost eveywhere except for the US. That was prepetuated in the recent RID line. And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.

Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.

I'll specify the UK;:-P thought having said that im getting a memory that we may of got the CW wave one before anyone else... (well anyone in the West at least)

[Hellscream9999]

For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?

[Hellscream9999]

I keep saying it but: Seacons would be piss-easy to make out of PotP molds except Snaptrap. If they intend to save them for later but keep the same core engineering from the Prime Wars trilogy, these guys are entirely doable by remolding the Terrorcons. Snaptrap is also doable if you massive retool the exterior of Grimlock to enable quadrupedal stance.

So who knows? Maybe if the Seacon or Monster Pretenders DO appear in later Generations line, they'd be made from at-that-point years-old molds.

God, I hope that doesn't happen, that would then make the combined mode a pile of trash, and they deserve better

[primalxconvoy]

Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.

Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.

It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.

Aside from when Europe got G1. 5 when did hasbro ever care about us?

Are we counting China? becuse they get some pretty sweet things. Asia gets the toys earlier than others (usually), and China was the only place where the first wave of Cyber Battalion figures were available at a decent price. Plus there was the GDO line, along with the Prime First Edition line which arrived almost eveywhere except for the US. That was prepetuated in the recent RID line. And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.

Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.

Is cogman potp?

As we are here though, Cogman was around 20 dollars at Amazon Japan and at Yamada Denki in Japan, when I looked, which is probably "cheap" for my area of the woods.

[Rysquad]

Roadtrap is every bit as fidgety as Legends Wheelie in vehicle mode. You get a side panel in place and the back part splits, you get that part together and half the front window pops up. Pretty frustrating even with the built in locks inside the front wheels that are supposed to keep everything together. Bot mode is alright, his legs look stumpy thanks to the windows, but standing him next to Bumblebee the leg joints are all in the same place. Annoying alt mode aside, he's OK.

My Roadtrap is nowhere near the mess/embarrassment that is Titans Return Wheelie.

[Rysquad]

For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?

Sure does.

[william-james88]

Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.

Which retailer?

Walmart and EB Games(GameStop in Canada) had Cogman. Walmart and TRU had the TR Deluxes

[Hellscream9999]

For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?

Sure does.

Sweet

Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more

They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'

[Tigertrack]

For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?

Sure does.

Sweet

Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more

They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'

It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.

Or they could do the entire Landcross set.

I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.

...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...

[Burn]

And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.

And lets not forget the Titans Return boxsets that were only available online in the US!
...and no where else outside of that land mass.
Yeah, lets not have exclusives in POTP. Availability equality for all collectors!

[Rysquad]

For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?

Sure does.

Sweet

Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more

They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'

It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.

Or they could do the entire Landcross set.

I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.

...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...

Heck. Do a Generations Jetfire and Jetstorm for Safeguard or Skysledge and Stormhammer for Skyhammer.

[kurthy]

And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.

And lets not forget the Titans Return boxsets that were only available online in the US!
...and no where else outside of that land mass.
Yeah, lets not have exclusives in POTP. Availability equality for all collectors!

Next time there is a U.S. exclusive, I'll pick a 2nd one up for you, burn.