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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby BombshellDaBug » Sat May 19, 2018 12:57 pm

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Randomhero wrote:Alright then. Wave three is being spotted over seas with wave 2 two still nowhere to be found in US. Guess it’s off to getting them online.

It sucks that we’re only halfway with POTP and it feels like the end of titans return run where nothing was being sighted


Wave 2 has been a pain in the ass to find online as well. Amazon's been overpricing the Prime Masters and I can't seem to find the remaining dinos for reasonable prices anywhere. I know BBTS and Entertainment Earth had them up for preorder, but I haven't checked them in a week or two.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby BombshellDaBug » Sat May 19, 2018 1:04 pm

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BombshellDaBug wrote:Honestly? There's a lot about this line that just doesn't make sense. For starters, I think we can all agree that SOMETHING happened at the production level. Second, the distribution issues that everyone seems to be having. For whatever reason, we're not finding Wave 2 in a lot of places, but SS was able to launch just fine. There's also the fact that the line seems to have been cut short, with it ending with one new figure in Wave 4.

With these types of problems occurring across the board, I wonder if there was some kind of shakeup at the corporate level. Some kind of sudden, but massive, decision to change the direction of the franchise would be the most logical thing in my opinion. Especially since the upcoming toylines seem to have a very G1 heavy focus. I wonder if the TLK backlash has made Hasbro decide to change things across the board, leading to a lot of plans for the franchise being changed. Those changes including whatever plans they may have had for POTP. Hence, why we have a lot of incomplete combiners, missing four of the remaining Primes, distribution issues, etc. I'm coming to this conclusion with the recent IDW comics reboot and film franchise reboot also in mind. All of these things happening at once gives me the impression that we're witnessing the consequences of a massive shakeup at Hasbro's corporate level.

We got all the teams complete though, inferno, elita 1, starscream aren't a part of any special team so they don't need team members as they can use anyone. Also I think the prime trilogy has been g1 focused as well, I mean we just got a figure of orion pax! Like wolfman pointed out the new toyline would have started development before TLK toyline released and as seen in profit releases, transformers was the biggest moneymaker for hasbro last year.


Fair enough. A lot of what I was saying was just speculation. Just for clarification, the TLK thing I mentioned was in reference to the movie, not the toyline. Still, I can't help but wonder what's going on with the corporate end. I feel like it would give us a lot of context as to what's up with POTP distribution.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Randomhero » Sat May 19, 2018 2:08 pm

BombshellDaBug wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
BombshellDaBug wrote:Honestly? There's a lot about this line that just doesn't make sense. For starters, I think we can all agree that SOMETHING happened at the production level. Second, the distribution issues that everyone seems to be having. For whatever reason, we're not finding Wave 2 in a lot of places, but SS was able to launch just fine. There's also the fact that the line seems to have been cut short, with it ending with one new figure in Wave 4.

With these types of problems occurring across the board, I wonder if there was some kind of shakeup at the corporate level. Some kind of sudden, but massive, decision to change the direction of the franchise would be the most logical thing in my opinion. Especially since the upcoming toylines seem to have a very G1 heavy focus. I wonder if the TLK backlash has made Hasbro decide to change things across the board, leading to a lot of plans for the franchise being changed. Those changes including whatever plans they may have had for POTP. Hence, why we have a lot of incomplete combiners, missing four of the remaining Primes, distribution issues, etc. I'm coming to this conclusion with the recent IDW comics reboot and film franchise reboot also in mind. All of these things happening at once gives me the impression that we're witnessing the consequences of a massive shakeup at Hasbro's corporate level.

We got all the teams complete though, inferno, elita 1, starscream aren't a part of any special team so they don't need team members as they can use anyone. Also I think the prime trilogy has been g1 focused as well, I mean we just got a figure of orion pax! Like wolfman pointed out the new toyline would have started development before TLK toyline released and as seen in profit releases, transformers was the biggest moneymaker for hasbro last year.


Fair enough. A lot of what I was saying was just speculation. Just for clarification, the TLK thing I mentioned was in reference to the movie, not the toyline. Still, I can't help but wonder what's going on with the corporate end. I feel like it would give us a lot of context as to what's up with POTP distribution.



I’ve already explained this a million times so I’m just gonna give you an abridged version:

Stores order their own product. Some things come in by the company but not most. If a store is sitting on a lot of product of other stuff they won’t order other things.

Marvel movies are all over and so is Star Wars. A lot of stores are probably sitting on a a lot of Infinity War and Solo toys so it’s verh possible they are not ordering other stuff until the get rid of that or they are sitting on a lot of wave one of POTP. Most process are sitting heavy on wave One deluxes and Titan masters.

Don’t always assume it is a hasbro thing. A lot of times it’s the stores.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat May 19, 2018 4:20 pm

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What randomhero said ^, the simplest answer is often the correct one.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat May 19, 2018 4:30 pm

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Here's a thought. If stores order so much Wave 1 stuff, why doesn't Hasbro change it's strategy with Waves? Make wave 1 doubly large, in terms of diversity of product, at least. Instead of putting four different characters twice each in a box of eight, do eight different characters in a box, period. Get a LOT of the character product in that initial wave and then revision waves later on can introduce the rest of the characters with heavier pack-outs to catch up.
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Postby WreckerJack » Sat May 19, 2018 7:57 pm

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bodrock wrote:I definitely agree with that Randomhero. :/

I want dem wave3 Prime Masters.

That makes 3. Still looking for Percy. But part of me thinks I should wait for Cybfest because I am sure that someone will either have one or an older figure that looks more like Percy from the IDW comics. The lips kinda make Percy look a little odd like he bit into a lemon.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Emerje » Sat May 19, 2018 10:05 pm

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Randomhero wrote:Stores order their own product. Some things come in by the company but not most. If a store is sitting on a lot of product of other stuff they won’t order other things.

Marvel movies are all over and so is Star Wars. A lot of stores are probably sitting on a a lot of Infinity War and Solo toys so it’s verh possible they are not ordering other stuff until the get rid of that or they are sitting on a lot of wave one of POTP. Most process are sitting heavy on wave One deluxes and Titan masters.

Don’t always assume it is a hasbro thing. A lot of times it’s the stores.

Yeah, no, that's not how it's done. It's true that Hasbro doesn't come in and stock the shelves, but after that your explanation falls apart. 1) Stores don't order directly from Hasbro, they order from their own regional warehouses. 2) The warehouse can only contain what Hasbro's own warehouse can send to them. Barely any stores, online and off, had TR Deluxe wave 5, including Hasbro Toy Show, because even Hasbro's own warehouse didn't have them. 3) Star Wars and Marvel toys have no effect whatsoever on how they stock Transformers. You talk like they wait until other Hasbro stuff runs low before placing an order for more, but they can order this stuff from their own warehouse any time along side a new stock of microwaves, screwdrivers, and bed sheets.

It really just comes down to how good the supply chain is in your area. I've yet to see more than one case of any PotP wave or size class at any one time at Walmart or Target, while back in Titans Return I counted as many as eight unopened cases of Deluxe wave 3 on the top shelf along with about three cases worth on the pegs. Walmart isn't afraid to over stock, but if the store can't get them from the warehouse or the warehouse can't get them from Hasbro then it all falls apart.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby bacem » Sun May 20, 2018 9:12 pm

Found this on TFND facebook page.

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they include the weapon from RTS wreck-gar, apparently. Interesting.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Emerje » Sun May 20, 2018 9:24 pm

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bacem wrote:they include the weapon from RTS wreck-gar, apparently. Interesting.

I suppose that explains why he didn't come with Prime Master like Blast Off did. The ax is more complicated than a regular gun and Hasbro was probably not all that crazy over the size of Groove's original weapons.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby starrhero » Sun May 20, 2018 10:15 pm

Stop, thief! No welcome-wagon "Hello Stranger" with that new coffee flavor for YOU! Offer expires while you wait. Operators are standing by.

You check in, but you don't check out.

God I'm so excited for this Wreck Gar figure. :-D
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Stock Images of Power of the Primes Wreck-Gar Exclusive

Postby Qwan » Sun May 20, 2018 10:22 pm

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Thanks to a tip from Seibertronian bacem, we're happy to share the sudden appearance of stock images for the exclusive Deluxe-class Power of the Primes Wreck-Gar! These pictures surfaced on TFND's Facebook page, and show off the upcoming figure in robot and vehicle modes, along with a look at the toy in packaging and the back of the card!

Worthy of note here is that on top of coming with a new head, this new figure also appears to possess the axe-weapon from the older Reveal the Shield Wreck-Gar. We also have no proper confirmation on where it will be available or exclusive too as of yet, but TFND's post hints at it being a potential Walgreens exclusive, which would make sense with the appearance of such a listing in Walgreens' database nearly a year ago. Check out the (machine-translated) post from TFND, and the images, below!

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WxlGrxxn Exclusive POTP Wreck-Gar
It's basically from the cw groove.
The Head Eagle is new. It's different from that of the previous generation.
The weapons are stolen from ancient morning.
It is a qualifier. I hope taiwan can also be represented.


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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Bronzewolf » Sun May 20, 2018 10:43 pm

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Oh hell yes!
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby RustedCross » Sun May 20, 2018 10:52 pm

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun May 20, 2018 11:36 pm

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But, Groove's guns were part of the bike mold. Did they retool the Prime Master module to slot in the back, because there's no peg hole.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun May 20, 2018 11:57 pm

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This Wreck-Gar actually looks pretty damned good, despite being a headswap with CW Deluxe Groove. The colors, while not especially accurate to the G1 cartoon, look great and evoke the character well. That headsculpt is wicked too. It's a shame that the mold is so symmetrical. I always liked how Wreck-Gar had the wheels both to one side in his character model. It made him stand out among the Season 3 Autobots with a very unique silhouette. This won't replace my United Wreck-Gar on my Classics shelves, but he will be a welcome addition to Firestormer (a.k.a., whatever Inferno's team will be).
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Mon May 21, 2018 12:27 am

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It's a lot better than the godawful CW Legend class figure but not a patch on the RTS/United figure. It still just looks so...normal? I dunno how to explain. Like he's officially an autobot rather than a junkion. I dunno.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon May 21, 2018 12:59 am

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:It still just looks so...normal? I dunno how to explain. Like he's officially an autobot rather than a junkion. I dunno.


Exactly what I was getting at above. He looks so clean and symmetrical now, not lopsided and "junky" like his G1 self. It's still a good looking figure, with a great head sculpt and nice paint apps and plastic color choices. If anyone didn't have the Reveal the Shield or United version of Wreck-Gar, this would do. For me, having the United version, this PotP version is just going to be a limb for a combiner that needs another team member.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby WreckerJack » Mon May 21, 2018 1:11 am

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I can't help but to think this figure is missing something.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Qwan » Mon May 21, 2018 1:22 am

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WreckerJack wrote:I can't help but to think this figure is missing something.
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Third-party Transformer nipples when?

Unrelatedly... hmm, I wonder if it might be possible to get some lopsided wheels going on after all? Rotate his backpack to the wheel is sticking more out to one side than the other, fold the wheel-half on his right leg back but leave the left one forward - it wouldn't be perfect but it'd make a bit of a difference!
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Postby Hotconvoy » Mon May 21, 2018 2:27 am

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WreckerJack wrote:I can't help but to think this figure is missing something.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Hotconvoy » Mon May 21, 2018 2:33 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:It still just looks so...normal? I dunno how to explain. Like he's officially an autobot rather than a junkion. I dunno.


Exactly what I was getting at above. He looks so clean and symmetrical now, not lopsided and "junky" like his G1 self. It's still a good looking figure, with a great head sculpt and nice paint apps and plastic color choices. If anyone didn't have the Reveal the Shield or United version of Wreck-Gar, this would do. For me, having the United version, this PotP version is just going to be a limb for a combiner that needs another team member.

I know finaly a smmetrical Wreck-gar :DANCE: . My OCD has been going nuts over Wreck-gar for years :HEADHURTS:. He just looks awesome all around, and personaly I've never liked the RtS version so I'm not super happy about him get the RtS weapon.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon May 21, 2018 3:29 am

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I think he looks quite good, so good in fact that I think hasbro should create a junkion combiner (called junkpile ideally) in the war for Cybertron line.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby frogbat » Mon May 21, 2018 4:56 am

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looks pretty good! the groove mode is one of my favourite of the CW limbs...

I like the original generations wreckgarr too though he was a bit overly fiddly to transform. The CW limbs might be a bit repetitive in their transformations patterns and by the 50th figure fatigue sets in, however it's quick and intuitive and ultimately more fun than having 50 different fiddly transformations...
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Mon May 21, 2018 5:43 am

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Hotconvoy wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:It still just looks so...normal? I dunno how to explain. Like he's officially an autobot rather than a junkion. I dunno.


Exactly what I was getting at above. He looks so clean and symmetrical now, not lopsided and "junky" like his G1 self. It's still a good looking figure, with a great head sculpt and nice paint apps and plastic color choices. If anyone didn't have the Reveal the Shield or United version of Wreck-Gar, this would do. For me, having the United version, this PotP version is just going to be a limb for a combiner that needs another team member.

I know finaly a smmetrical Wreck-gar :DANCE: . My OCD has been going nuts over Wreck-gar for years :HEADHURTS:. He just looks awesome all around, and personaly I've never liked the RtS version so I'm not super happy about him get the RtS weapon.


Problem I find is that to me this is just a boring figure and Wreck-Gar shouldn't be boring. I never had any issues with the RTS mold during the time I had the figure (why the heck did I sell it?) but I would be quite happy for Hasbro to try again and fix the flaws folk had with it (and I would still like a good attempt to be made for the head to turn into the front of the bike like it should be... the original G1 toy did it but resulted in a massive helmet, the RTS figure avoided it altogether and ended up with a small head and the actual front of bike on his leg, this CW mold version has a tiny head too). Are there any third party Wreck Gars? I'd be interested in seeing how other companies attempted it. I nto sure I'd like a G1-toon accurate toy as he was a bit blocky for my tastes but still would like to see what they would do

update:Zero Wolf kindaly pm'd me about 3P Wreck Gars so no need to mention it in a non-third party thread. Moving on. :)
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