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[Sigma Magnus]

Know what would be nice? If the MP+ line instead focused on toy accuracy. MPs as is are animation-accurate as heck, it'd be nice to throw a bone or two to the toy fans. Heck, they're doing a toy-accurate repaint of Primal of all characters; why not others?

MP-?

...wait a minute, that could actually work...have the MP+ line give cartoon tune-ups (toon-ups?) to older molds, then have an MP- line make toy-accurate versions? I feel like that'd be cool...

[sol magnus]

Know what would be nice? If the MP+ line instead focused on toy accuracy. MPs as is are animation-accurate as heck, it'd be nice to throw a bone or two to the toy fans. Heck, they're doing a toy-accurate repaint of Primal of all characters; why not others?

MP-18S, Hasbro MP Prime, Rodimus, and MP Soundwave might disagree with this statement. They have done nods to the toy rather than cartoon in terms of deco. Indeed, my own Masterpiece collection skews toward my favorite memories. My first Transformer was Soundwave. I absolutely wanted the figure, but when I found out Hasbro was doing him in toy accurate yellow eyes (as well as all cassettes for 130), I waited for the domestic release. Instead of MP-18, I opted for MP-18S due to that being the toy I had as a kid and I didn't want to get multiple versions (although I did get MP-18B because...I had to).

They seem to have lessened this approach, while not backing off it entirely. I thought they would have done Ultra Magnus in lighter toy blue for US market, but it didn't happen. I thought he was a shoe-in, considering he isn't licensed.

The MP+ line seems to retroactively make the normal additions more toy-like by default.

[MightyMagnus78]

Having just received MP Dirge this morning and finally completing the MP seekers. I certainly hope they don't design another mould (at least not for another few years anyway).

Not that they don't need it because they do, they really, really do. However having just spent the best part of £800 collecting the bloody things, I don't think my wallet could take having to do it all over again. lol

[Kurona]

Come to think of it actually, there is one character I'd like in the MP+ line - Prowl. If only because the cartoon accuracy would lead them to actually giving him his actual shoulder launchers

[Sabrblade]

Come to think of it actually, there is one character I'd like in the MP+ line - Prowl. If only because the cartoon accuracy would lead them to actually giving him his actual shoulder launchers

The ones he didn't have in the cartoon?

[DecepticonFinishline]

Sent to the news staff already. Here is Masterpiece Dirge review until a better one comes along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Llga1EQG0c

[william-james88]

Seibertronian DecepticonFinishline sent us a review of Masterpiece MP 11 ND Dirge. He made it himself since he couldn't find others and wanted to share what he thought of the toy. Thanks for taking one for the team, DecepticonFinishline. And to the rest of our comunity, enjoy!

[ScottyP]

Having just received MP Dirge this morning and finally completing the MP seekers. I certainly hope they don't design another mould (at least not for another few years anyway).

Not that they don't need it because they do, they really, really do. However having just spent the best part of £800 collecting the bloody things, I don't think my wallet could take having to do it all over again. lol

Yeah, with Dirge on the way, and owning every other officially released MP Seeker (even the "USA Edition" of MP-3!), plus the iGear Coneheads and even two iGear prototypes for Rainmaker and Acid Storm, I want MP Seekers to be done. They'll find me buried under them on an episode of Hoarders at this rate

I bet Hasbro's got a Skywarp lined up though

[shajaki]

I've been thinking about the future of the MP line....

Lets just say we get the entire G1 cartoon cast, would you want more? Think about what's being released in TR right now. Would you buy an MP Topspin? How about an MP Krok? Point is, once the main meat and potatoes of Masterpiece is served, are you going to have room for more?

[Sigma Magnus]

I've been thinking about the future of the MP line....

Lets just say we get the entire G1 cartoon cast, would you want more? Think about what's being released in TR right now. Would you buy an MP Topspin? How about an MP Krok? Point is, once the main meat and potatoes of Masterpiece is served, are you going to have room for more?

Well...if things go that long, here's what I predict.
We have G1 Masterpieces. We have Beast Wars Masterpieces. We have movie Masterpieces. In time, I think we'll have Beast Machines, RiD '01, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, Prime, RiD '15...maybe even IDW Masterpieces!

[Bumblebee21]

So much hate for the bw MPs.

Meh. Tru topsin and twintwist are my mp twintwist

[Sabrblade]

I've been thinking about the future of the MP line....

Lets just say we get the entire G1 cartoon cast, would you want more? Think about what's being released in TR right now. Would you buy an MP Topspin? How about an MP Krok? Point is, once the main meat and potatoes of Masterpiece is served, are you going to have room for more?

If by some miracle Takara manages to get through the entire 1984-1987 cast of the G1 cartoon, and were compelled to continue making figures for the line, they'd probably just move on to making MPs for Masterforce, Victory, Zone, etc.

[shajaki]

Well...if things go that long, here's what I predict.
We have G1 Masterpieces. We have Beast Wars Masterpieces. We have movie Masterpieces. In time, I think we'll have Beast Machines, RiD '01, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, Prime, RiD '15...maybe even IDW Masterpieces!

My head would literally explode if we got BM MP's

]If by some miracle Takara manages to get through the entire 1984-1987 cast of the G1 cartoon, and were compelled to continue making figures for the line, they'd probably just move on to making MPs for Masterforce, Victory, Zone, etc.

True.... but my question isn't so much about where you think the line will go, but if they start going off the reservation, will you still be game?

Personally I'm down for everything and anything.

[Insurgent]

As I've already decided the only g1 MP's I'll get in future is jazz and Galvatron, no i woud not. I would only get mp best wars in future

[Burn]

Well...if things go that long, here's what I predict.
We have G1 Masterpieces. We have Beast Wars Masterpieces. We have movie Masterpieces. In time, I think we'll have Beast Machines, RiD '01, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, Prime, RiD '15...maybe even IDW Masterpieces!

My head would literally explode if we got BM MP's

Masterpiece (Fat) Tankor.

[Kurona]

GOD yes I'd love an MP Krok!

[william-james88]

GOD yes I'd love an MP Krok!

Wouldnt that just be a fully poseable action figure?

[Kurona]

GOD yes I'd love an MP Krok!

Wouldnt that just be a fully poseable action figure?

And that's the beauty of it! Since all they have to do is essentially make a highly-articulated highly-detailed action figure with multiple accessories, the engineering costs and hence likely the price of the actual figures AND manufacturing time would go down dramatically - meaning they'd be so easy to pick up and purchase! BRING ON THE MASTERPIECE ACTION MASTERS!!!







Also I love Krok so

[william-james88]

GOD yes I'd love an MP Krok!

Wouldnt that just be a fully poseable action figure?

And that's the beauty of it! Since all they have to do is essentially make a highly-articulated highly-detailed action figure with multiple accessories, the engineering costs and hence likely the price of the actual figures AND manufacturing time would go down dramatically - meaning they'd be so easy to pick up and purchase! BRING ON THE MASTERPIECE ACTION MASTERS!!!

Also I love Krok so

I just thought of something, did the Japanese get the action masters? I dont think so. So the MP would have to come from Hasbro, which makes it less possible to exist. In an ideal world, Bandai would get the license to make those as highly poseable action figures.

[Kurona]

GOD yes I'd love an MP Krok!

Wouldnt that just be a fully poseable action figure?

And that's the beauty of it! Since all they have to do is essentially make a highly-articulated highly-detailed action figure with multiple accessories, the engineering costs and hence likely the price of the actual figures AND manufacturing time would go down dramatically - meaning they'd be so easy to pick up and purchase! BRING ON THE MASTERPIECE ACTION MASTERS!!!

Also I love Krok so

I just thought of something, did the Japanese get the action masters? I dont think so. So the MP would have to come from Hasbro, which makes it less possible to exist. In an ideal world, Bandai would get the license to make those as highly poseable action figures.

True, true - I'm not talking in any realistic case, it was half-jokey. But it MP Action Masters did happen, those would be some rather nifty little advantages for us as consumers.


Though talking of cost-effectiveness, is anyone else surprised that we haven't seen a single MP Minibot since Bumblebee? Just from a marketing standpoint, wouldn't it make sense to space out the standard Autobot Cars like Sunstreaker and the larger figures like Inferno and Megatron with smaller, cheaper releases like Brawn and Warpath? Heck, the entire original Minibot lineup aside from Bumblebee have easy retool potential in the 1986 Minibot lineup. Seems a rather odd decision to hold back on them to this extent...

[shajaki]

Lets not get crazy here. The Action Masters had ASSUMED alt modes

[Sabrblade]

I just thought of something, did the Japanese get the action masters? I dont think so. So the MP would have to come from Hasbro, which makes it less possible to exist. In an ideal world, Bandai would get the license to make those as highly poseable action figures.

Just because Takara didn't release the Action Masters in the Japanese mass market back then doesn't mean that they weren't at least aware of them. Japan's G2 fiction acknowledged the Action Master versions of Optimus, Megatron, and Blaster in one of their story pages, and one of the 2000s-era reissues of the G1 Optimus toy done by Takara included a Japanese-original redeco of the Action Master Optimus mold.

And I'm pretty sure it was Takara who made the original Action Master molds for Hasbro's market anyway, since a Japanese-original redeco of the Armored Convoy (AM Optimus's truck/jet thing) ended up getting used in one of Japan's Microman toylines during the late-90s.

[Bumblebee21]

heres a mini discussion topic.

Why do you collect MPs and what do you do with them?

do you buy them because they look good and are fun?

do you buy them as statues to display in a pose and leave them there?

are you a completionist?

or do you have an unwavering need for plastic crack?

[Kurona]

I just really **** like Road Rage.

[steals_your_goats]

I fairly recently got into the masterpiece line and I've decided to go for a complete post MP-10 Takara collection. So I'll be collecting every numbered release and every lettered release as long as it's a new character (so like MP-10B I'll get but since I already have MP12 I don't need 12+). I like having complete sets of things.