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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby william-james88 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:15 am

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carytheone wrote: But if they are going to go that far and start adding extra bits and pieces, why not just go all in?

Because I think "all in" is exponentially harder to do than just adding some parts for extra screen accuracy.

I really hope Jet Shatter has a sceen accurate chest when it gets released.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Ig89ninja » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:30 am

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:41 am

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I think if there will ever be triplechangers for Dropkick and Shatter, it will probably be at a Voyager price point. To fit in the complexity and still look and function well, that would likely require a higher budget. Of course, the figures themselves will probably still be deluxe sized or a little taller
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Autobot N » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:04 pm

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I'm pretty sure won't ever get a triple-changing Shatter and Dropkick. Triple changers are already hard enough to make with Cybertronian modes (and with those, you can slap wheels on a brick and call it a car). Since both of Shatter and Dropkick's modes are realistic Earth vehicles, it would be incredibly hard to make both modes look good.
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Studio Series 38 Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Out at Select Stores in the US + New Pics

Postby william-james88 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:23 pm

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Several Americans got their hands on the most wanted figure of the year so far, Transformers Studio Series SS 38 Optimus Prime, from the Bumblebee movie. This is a complex voyager class figure featuring Optimus in his new more G1 inspired design as seen in the Bumblebee movie. This means the shipping date has passed and it can appear anywhere, anytime from now.
For now, it has appeared in comic book stores, like Fantastic Collectibles in North Carolina, and, more nationally, those who preordered from Entertainment Earth are receiving their shipments. Matthewrex on our boards has shared his experiecne getting this toy as well as some images. We also have more images from the Play with Photography Toy Blog.

matthewrex wrote:It seems the Entertainment Earth "TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOYAGER HERO" was indeed SS38 Optimus Prime (Bumblebee). My delivery got here today and I'm blown away! Really impressive figure. Haven't opened Rampage yet, but Optimus looks great. His left leg is a little loose but I put a little nail topcoat in the joint and it helped.

Included a box shot. Considering this was just solicited for "April 1"... it sure got here quite early! April fools?
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Just got done transforming him to alt mode and back. Definitely a bit more complicated than the WFC: Siege Optimus. I actually got a bit stuck and had to retrace my steps, etc. Some of the pieces (namely in the legs) don't snap as snugly/securely as I'd prefer, but overall I'm still really impressed. I think his Alt mode actually looks really great, and manages to be larger than Siege Optimus - ditto for his robot mode.

I think this is a great mix of live action / G1 Prime. Up until this I thought Siege Prime might have been my favorite in a while - but something about this Bumblebee version is really doing it for me!

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby no-one » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:45 pm

Prime's looking good; sorry wallet :(
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:47 pm

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I really didn't care about dragging G1 into the bee movie...but...that Optimus looks the business. Looks like a fun toy to play with and pose.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:57 pm

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No insignia seems a bit odd, but can't really remember the near enough minute he was in the Bee film, Still undecided on this as it looks a bit blocky but might be better than having to cut the kibble off of a siege Prime.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:59 pm

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I wouldn't fault anyone for choosing to make SS-38 their Optimus Prime of choice for their Classics G1 displays. Even with the more detailed movie aesthetic, the figures is a gorgeous interpretation of G1 Optimus Prime. All that extra detail might even fit in with the greebling that's so prevalent on a lot of the new SIEGE figures.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby no-one » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:01 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:I really didn't care about dragging G1 into the bee movie...but...that Optimus looks the business. Looks like a fun toy to play with and pose.
He's a bit of an anomaly as far as movie Primes go, but looks like a fun and interesting figure. I don't really go for the standard movie Prime look so he'll be replacing EMOP as my movie prime and will be spending some time next to SS VDub Bee in a spotlight display.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby truegrit » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:12 pm

Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby YRQRM0 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:53 pm

truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.


Eh, did he really emote though? He looks a little concerned when Soundwave shows up, but otherwise not much. I think the first 3 TF movies have a bit more emotion, namely him getting upset about Sentinel turning on them.

Something about this Prime is just a bit off to me, but I'm glad everyone else is enjoying him. I might still get him, but I'm not blown away like everyone seems to be.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Cyberpath » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:52 pm

He looks great and I want one right now!

This is how he should have looked like in the first five films IMO.

HasTak used the AoE truck though, instead of the more accurate model from "Bumblebee", but still good.

I like that the figure also kind of works as a CHUG.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:13 pm

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With NYTF coming up soon, what's everyone expecting/hoping for for Studio Series reveals?

I'm really just hoping we'll see leader class DOTM Prime, anything else is a bonus.

I would love a reveal for a new Camaro Bee too, but considering we've got 2 new Bumblebees just hitting shelves I think it'll be a little while before we get one.

Edit: On a side note, I'm really hoping DOTM Prime has the gold/orange on the front of the truck.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:52 pm

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Good looking truck mode. Garbage robot mode. If I get it, it won't be at full price.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby metalogan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:13 pm

truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.



Agreed 1000% . Part of the stoic mystique of the character was to give him the solid " poker face" . I love the eyes.. Prime always had a concerned or compassionate look to the eyes. It was subtle but carefully and thoughtfully designed. When his eyes did emote in G1, it was for a reason.

I just wrote on another thread how everything that is animated CGI or otherwise emote too much. From Shrek, to Yoda to the new Transformers cartoon. It , to me, is cringeworthy. People don't look like that, except people that work at Applebees. Smirks, Eye rolls, or one eyebrow raised seem to be the popular and go-to expressions for animators because they underestimate the viewer's intelligence. Dumb it down and really show those emotions so people can "SEE" what they are feeling. No room for subtle nuances in this biz.

I think animation and facial expressions should be relegated to strictly outlandish humor like Ren and Stimpy which utilized the approach to parody animation as well.

Oh.. and again.. I like your thought! haha
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:19 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Good looking truck mode. Garbage robot mode. If I get it, it won't be at full price.


What don't you like about the robot mode? It looks screen accurate, detailed, well-proportioned, and devoid of excess kibble or fake parts. That's a win to me.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Shuttershock » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:37 pm

Ironically the longest smokestacks we’ve gotten in a while.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby no-one » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:43 pm

Shuttershock wrote:Ironically the longest smokestacks we’ve gotten in a while.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:07 pm

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Is it just me or are his proportions off?
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Deadput » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:46 pm

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metalogan wrote:
truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.



Agreed 1000% . Part of the stoic mystique of the character was to give him the solid " poker face" . I love the eyes.. Prime always had a concerned or compassionate look to the eyes. It was subtle but carefully and thoughtfully designed. When his eyes did emote in G1, it was for a reason.

I just wrote on another thread how everything that is animated CGI or otherwise emote too much. From Shrek, to Yoda to the new Transformers cartoon. It , to me, is cringeworthy. People don't look like that, except people that work at Applebees. Smirks, Eye rolls, or one eyebrow raised seem to be the popular and go-to expressions for animators because they underestimate the viewer's intelligence. Dumb it down and really show those emotions so people can "SEE" what they are feeling. No room for subtle nuances in this biz.

I think animation and facial expressions should be relegated to strictly outlandish humor like Ren and Stimpy which utilized the approach to parody animation as well.

Oh.. and again.. I like your thought! haha


Why are you watching cartoons in the first place then? Better question why are you watching movies with any cgi or animation in them?

Because when's the last time people looked like animations?

Nobody wants deadpan expressionless faces, it will never be realistic because it's cgi or drawn hence not real, why should animators put big limitations on what they can make with their animation tools or conform to realism when cartoons once again are not made to be realistic.

It's not for dumbing down it's for expression and even then for the most part that's for kids who for the most part really won't get nuances (seriously ask any kid if they even care or even think about that kind of thing)

And just my opinion but giving Optimus a mouth is one of the best things the franchise has done, say whatever about how it looks but Prime isn't some "mysterious" character, and absolute stoic Optimus like in TFP is garbage (actually TFP in general had awful characters because just about everyone was stoic and expressionless from Megatron to Shockwave to Bumblebee to Bulkhead, Soundwave was the only one they made it semi-work because he was intentionally silent but then again Soundwave did little else besides be mysterious so he really isn't a good character either) , Optimus is a good character when he actually has emotions like in TFA or even the original cartoon.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:03 pm

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:23 pm

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metalogan wrote:
truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.



Agreed 1000% . Part of the stoic mystique of the character was to give him the solid " poker face" . I love the eyes.. Prime always had a concerned or compassionate look to the eyes. It was subtle but carefully and thoughtfully designed. When his eyes did emote in G1, it was for a reason.

I just wrote on another thread how everything that is animated CGI or otherwise emote too much. From Shrek, to Yoda to the new Transformers cartoon. It , to me, is cringeworthy. People don't look like that, except people that work at Applebees. Smirks, Eye rolls, or one eyebrow raised seem to be the popular and go-to expressions for animators because they underestimate the viewer's intelligence. Dumb it down and really show those emotions so people can "SEE" what they are feeling. No room for subtle nuances in this biz.

I think animation and facial expressions should be relegated to strictly outlandish humor like Ren and Stimpy which utilized the approach to parody animation as well.

Oh.. and again.. I like your thought! haha

So, basically you want everyone to look like they just had extensive Botox and can’t emote?
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:29 pm

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metalogan wrote:
truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.



Agreed 1000% . Part of the stoic mystique of the character was to give him the solid " poker face" . I love the eyes.. Prime always had a concerned or compassionate look to the eyes. It was subtle but carefully and thoughtfully designed. When his eyes did emote in G1, it was for a reason.

I just wrote on another thread how everything that is animated CGI or otherwise emote too much. From Shrek, to Yoda to the new Transformers cartoon. It , to me, is cringeworthy. People don't look like that, except people that work at Applebees. Smirks, Eye rolls, or one eyebrow raised seem to be the popular and go-to expressions for animators because they underestimate the viewer's intelligence. Dumb it down and really show those emotions so people can "SEE" what they are feeling. No room for subtle nuances in this biz.

I think animation and facial expressions should be relegated to strictly outlandish humor like Ren and Stimpy which utilized the approach to parody animation as well.

Oh.. and again.. I like your thought! haha

So, basically you want everyone to look like they just had extensive Botox and can’t emote?
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

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