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News Credits: 31 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:05 pm

DULL SURPRISE!

News Credits: 18 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:09 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Good looking truck mode. Garbage robot mode. If I get it, it won't be at full price.

What don't you like about the robot mode? It looks screen accurate, detailed, well-proportioned, and devoid of excess kibble or fake parts. That's a win to me.

It's ugly. It was ugly on screen too. Just because it's screen accurate doesn't make it a good figure. His legs (especially his feet) look mutilated, and that lower torso looks like Megatron grabbed a handful of his grille and ripped it out, along with some guts. I do like the boxy look, but his chest just looks too big for the rest of him. He's misproportioned. It looks like they used an unfinished rendering of the figure in the movie because they were running behind schedule in post-production.

News Credits: 16 · by **Nathaniel Prime** » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:41 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Good looking truck mode. Garbage robot mode. If I get it, it won't be at full price.

What don't you like about the robot mode? It looks screen accurate, detailed, well-proportioned, and devoid of excess kibble or fake parts. That's a win to me.
It's ugly. It was ugly on screen too. Just because it's screen accurate doesn't make it a good figure. His legs (especially his feet) look mutilated, and that lower torso looks like Megatron grabbed a handful of his grille and ripped it out, along with some guts. I do like the boxy look, but his chest just looks too big for the rest of him. He's misproportioned. It looks like they used an unfinished rendering of the figure in the movie because they were running behind schedule in post-production.

Funny how I both agree and disagree with you. All those things you said about the design like the legs and grill, I noticed before, but never bothered me. The actual toy probably does look a little more blocky compared to the movie, but that doesn't bother me yet. Of course, I have to wait until I actually see him to be sure, otherwise I'd get Siege Prime.

All in all, I really enjoy this new look. Maybe it's not the design we should have had first, but rather a nice change on what we're used to( I respect your opinion btw

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News Credits: 35 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:29 am

I really liked the way they handled the hip joints on this fig. He's gonna have hella range of motion. He has three independent joints as apposed to the usual 2. I like all the sculpted greeble and the way they handled his back pack too.
I agree his proportions are a little funny. Something about his lower legs look really skinny. But funny compared to what? Traditional G1 Prime? A Human? He's a robot. His proportions can be whatever they want, really.

This figure is a tough one for me. He falls into that category of, how many Primes do I really want/need, but he looks super cool and fun.
This one will have to be left to impulse. :-?

News Credits: 18 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:33 pm

Nathaniel Prime wrote:I really enjoy this new look. Maybe it's not the design we should have had first, but rather a nice change on what we're used to( I respect your opinion btw )

I thought that they got Prime's old school look perfect with the Evasion Mode in AoE. That was the design they should have started with, even though I understand the choice for the Peterbilt. I was mainly comparing this version of Prime to the Evasion Mode version, and that's why I think it came up short in robot mode.

News Credits: 22 · by **Ironhidensh** » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:12 pm

Two things I wanted to share:

1) This new Bumblebee Movie Prime is, in my opinion, the best version of Prime we have gotten yet in the live action movie lines. I little small, but that is life with Hasbro's greed now days.

2) Studio Series Jetfire is amazing. Seriously, I love this figure. Transforming him isn't a hassle, it makes sense, and it is fun. If you find him, get him.

okay, I lied, three things...

3) I hate all versions of movie Megatron. Its a design I've never cared for in any version of him. That said, when I found Jetfire at Target the other day, SS DotM Megatron was obviously there as well. Holding it in hand, I have to say, it looks much, much better than any of the pictures or reviews have shown him to be. I hate this design, but if I find it on sale, I'll be getting it. It does that much justice to the film character.

News Credits: 170 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:33 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:3) I hate all versions of movie Megatron. Its a design I've never cared for in any version of him. That said, when I found Jetfire at Target the other day, SS DotM Megatron was obviously there as well. Holding it in hand, I have to say, it looks much, much better than any of the pictures or reviews have shown him to be. I hate this design, but if I find it on sale, I'll be getting it. It does that much justice to the film character.

That's some serious praise, I'll have to think on that, as I've been on the fence about the figure as I feel the dotm did so many unique things and this one has it's fair share of faults, but now I think I'll have to grab him if I see it at target now :-?

by **noctorro** » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:41 pm

Omg, he's so pretty.

I love the Bumblebee movie so much! Epic year for me, Bumblebee, Aquaman and Transformers Siege (still bettering and I thought Titans Return was unimprovable)

This Optimus, he's so pretty. I need him in my life.

And pls Hasbro, repaint the slag out of him.

he's so pretty.

News Credits: 8 · by **Hip-Hoptimus Rime** » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:04 pm

I am so glad I resisted buying Siege Optimus, the BB Movie one looks fantastic.

The only downside I can see is that he has so much beautiful molded detail that's begging for paint, and I suck at painting. Bad. I once painted a birdhouse for my mom, and it was condemned by the ASPCA *and* the Fair Housing Commission. I'm bad at it!

News Credits: 17 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:28 am

Prime VS Prime have an English video review of the highly anticipated new Bee Optimus!

News Credits: 214 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:36 am

Thanks to a tip off from fellow Seibertron user, -Kanrabat-, we now have an English language review of the hotly anticipated Transformers Studio Series Voyager Class Transformers Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime! The review is done by fellow Seibertron user, PrimevPrime.

While only recently official revealed, the figure is already in the hands of some North American collectors. The toy is a stunning representation of Optimus Primes appearance in the very well recieved Transformers Bumblebee movie.

We have mirrored the video below for your convenience, please have a look and enjoy!

What do you think of this? Is he a must buy? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

News Credits: 17 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:49 am

This is one of the very few voyager that I won't hesitate to pay the full 46$CAN when I see it at retail.

Seriously.

Perfect looking in all modes, paint everywhere, absolutely no blatant hollow bits, and a very clever transformation. It's like a freaking MASTERPIECE. :shock:

by **GeekyGamer Gal** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:46 am

I wasn't expecting to want this OP, but man I was sold as soon as I saw the Golden Gate Bridge stage. My only complaint is that the scene display is too small.

I really think that this OP will replace my AOE evasion mode on my shelf for a modern update of a G1 design.

Immature humor warning:
Watching that transformation, wow, I think this is the first time Optimus can sniff his own crotch.

News Credits: 18 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:57 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:This is one of the very few voyager that I won't hesitate to pay the full 46$CAN when I see it at retail.

Seriously.

Perfect looking in all modes, paint everywhere, absolutely no blatant hollow bits, and a very clever transformation. It's like a freaking MASTERPIECE.

Out of curiosity, why do you think it's perfect? Even though it looks better in the video than it did in pictures, I still think the lower torso and the legs are atrocious.

News Credits: 53 · by **Deadput** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:21 pm

Maybe it's because he might like the aesthetic or something?

News Credits: 17 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:37 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:I still think the lower torso and the legs are atrocious.

Opinion I guess?
The lower torso is great because instead of just doing a cheat truck grill, it is it's own bot details showing robotic abs that is remicent of a grill without pretending to be. It's debatable whennever one like it or not but for me, I like it.

However, I don't see how the legs are "atrocious". They acheive the perfect G1 look while storing all the truck bits in a very efficient way.

News Credits: 120 · by **carytheone** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:22 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:However, I don't see how the legs are "atrocious". They acheive the perfect G1 look while storing all the truck bits in a very efficient way.

Well he's not wearing the typical go-go space boots. I remember complaints about skinny thighs in another thread. The blue boot bit doesn't seem to go as high and from the knee down is the same thickness as the top of the leg. I think they look fine, but I can see why people would have a problem with them not looking like we're accustomed to.

News Credits: 17 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:31 pm

carytheone wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:However, I don't see how the legs are "atrocious". They acheive the perfect G1 look while storing all the truck bits in a very efficient way.
Well he's not wearing the typical go-go space boots. I remember complaints about skinny thighs in another thread. The blue boot bit doesn't seem to go as high and from the knee down is the same thickness as the top of the leg. I think they look fine, but I can see why people would have a problem with them not looking like we're accustomed to.

Oh, so that's why I find those legs perfectly fine. They are more human proportioned than usual. A TF trope that is a nessecity but I don't really like are the huge lower legs with micro thighs. This Optimus have more "normal" looking legs. Furthermore I found it a genius move to see the truck bits integrate like the gaz canissers in the thighs.

News Credits: 120 · by **carytheone** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:59 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
carytheone wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:However, I don't see how the legs are "atrocious". They acheive the perfect G1 look while storing all the truck bits in a very efficient way.
Well he's not wearing the typical go-go space boots. I remember complaints about skinny thighs in another thread. The blue boot bit doesn't seem to go as high and from the knee down is the same thickness as the top of the leg. I think they look fine, but I can see why people would have a problem with them not looking like we're accustomed to.
Oh, so that's why I find those legs perfectly fine. They are more human proportioned than usual. A TF trope that is a nessecity but I don't really like are the huge lower legs with micro thighs. This Optimus have more "normal" looking legs. Furthermore I found it a genius move to see the truck bits integrate like the gaz canissers in the thighs.

Some people like snails - some people like oysters - I like both - it's a matter of taste.

Fortunately the option to not buy is still valid.

News Credits: 18 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:32 pm

Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

News Credits: 22 · by **Ironhidensh** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:43 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

For me, it's the closest they have ever come to making what I envisioned a movie Prime should look like way back in the beginning if the movieverse. That's the best I can say. It looks more like Optimus than any other movie Optimus has.

News Credits: 18 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 am

Ironhidensh wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

For me, it's the closest they have ever come to making what I envisioned a movie Prime should look like way back in the beginning if the movieverse. That's the best I can say. It looks more like Optimus than any other movie Optimus has.

I see. In that vain, I agree that they nailed the truck mode. For me the robot mode still leaves something to be desired. As far as G1 aesthetic is concerned, I thought they got the Evasion Mode version closer to what G1 Prime would look like in live action. I guess if there's a sequel to the Bee movie maybe we'll see more if this Prime.

by **Jeddostotle7** » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:20 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

For me, it's the closest they have ever come to making what I envisioned a movie Prime should look like way back in the beginning if the movieverse. That's the best I can say. It looks more like Optimus than any other movie Optimus has.
I see. In that vain, I agree that they nailed the truck mode. For me the robot mode still leaves something to be desired. As far as G1 aesthetic is concerned, I thought they got the Evasion Mode version closer to what G1 Prime would look like in live action. I guess if there's a sequel to the Bee movie maybe we'll see more if this Prime.

How so? I can understand if Evasion Mode Optimus is how you prefer G1 Optimus to be interpreted in live action, but whether or not you think it's a good execution of it, Bumblebee Movie Optimus is a more direct translation of the G1 design into live action.

News Credits: 18 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:10 pm

Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

For me, it's the closest they have ever come to making what I envisioned a movie Prime should look like way back in the beginning if the movieverse. That's the best I can say. It looks more like Optimus than any other movie Optimus has.
I see. In that vain, I agree that they nailed the truck mode. For me the robot mode still leaves something to be desired. As far as G1 aesthetic is concerned, I thought they got the Evasion Mode version closer to what G1 Prime would look like in live action. I guess if there's a sequel to the Bee movie maybe we'll see more if this Prime.

How so? I can understand if Evasion Mode Optimus is how you prefer G1 Optimus to be interpreted in live action, but whether or not you think it's a good execution of it, Bumblebee Movie Optimus is a more direct translation of the G1 design into live action.

I disagree. The Bee Prime looks like an unfinished version of G1 Prime.

by **Jeddostotle7** » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:37 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

For me, it's the closest they have ever come to making what I envisioned a movie Prime should look like way back in the beginning if the movieverse. That's the best I can say. It looks more like Optimus than any other movie Optimus has.
I see. In that vain, I agree that they nailed the truck mode. For me the robot mode still leaves something to be desired. As far as G1 aesthetic is concerned, I thought they got the Evasion Mode version closer to what G1 Prime would look like in live action. I guess if there's a sequel to the Bee movie maybe we'll see more if this Prime.

How so? I can understand if Evasion Mode Optimus is how you prefer G1 Optimus to be interpreted in live action, but whether or not you think it's a good execution of it, Bumblebee Movie Optimus is a more direct translation of the G1 design into live action.
I disagree. The Bee Prime looks like an unfinished version of G1 Prime.

But it still fundamentally looks like G1 Prime, even if "unfinished", right? It matches the silhouette, lines, shapes, and broad details of the original G1 design, even if finer details are different, while Evasion Mode Optimus takes more liberties with those elements. Again, I'm not saying you can't think Evasion Mode Optimus is a better live-action interpretation of the G1 design, but Bee Optimus is at least a more literal and direct translation of it.