Takara Tomy Transformers Power of The Primes Thread

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Takara Tomy Transformers Power of The Primes Thread

Postby Va'al » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:12 am

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For a long while now, people have been thinking about what might happen to the Legends line from Takara Tomy Transformers, which has seen gathering together a fair few lines released as separate by their US counterpart company Hasbro. With Titans Return appearing in Legends, but Combiner Wars making up the Unite Warriors line, the latest line of Power of the Primes could have gone either way.

It appears we have an answer, courtesy of Planet Iacon over on Facebook, who bring us the full list of the first releases of Power of the Prime by Takara Tomy - though yet unnamed and lacking images - with the PP code for every figure (much like UW for Unite Warriors, or LG for Legends)! Currently scheduled for a May 2018 release, we're bound to hear more about this in the coming months, as only three Prime Masters, three Legend class, one Deluxe and two Leaders are currently shown off. Check it out below!

Takara Transformers Power of Prime Series:

PP-01 Micronus, 800 Yen
PP-02 Liege Maximo, 800 Yen
PP-03 Vector Prime, 800 Yen
PP-04 Dinobot Slash, 1500 Yen
PP-05 Wind Charger, 1500 Yen
PP-06 Beach comber, 1500 Yen
PP-07 Autobot Jazz, 2800 Yen
PP-08 Rodimus Prime, 7000 Yen
PP-09 Optimus Prime, 7000 Yen

All scheduled to be released on May 2018
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:37 am

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I'm a little surprised that they're doing the pretenders both separately and as the primes. Will be interesting to see how they change them, if they do at all.

Legends look like they're just back by themselves going off of the price, which is slightly disappointing but since they're doing the pretenders separately there's nothing to go with them.

The lack of the other deluxe's and both voyagers still kinda gives hope for the return of unite warriors. I think they're saving the teams for that and releasing everyone else under this new subline. That would put the final nail in the coffin for a full team for jazz though.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:06 am

steals_your_goats wrote:The lack of the other deluxe's and both voyagers still kinda gives hope for the return of unite warriors. I think they're saving the teams for that and releasing everyone else under this new subline. That would put the final nail in the coffin for a full team for jazz though.


Yeah, Jazz being solo makes me wonder if they will even touch Inferno.

Dreadwind could still end up in either this line or a UW reboot. They might just be saving him to release as a 2 pack Buster/Hydra, or they could be using those 2 as limbs for Starscream (or whatever character they will use that torso for).
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby Tranzilla » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:54 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:The lack of the other deluxe's and both voyagers still kinda gives hope for the return of unite warriors. I think they're saving the teams for that and releasing everyone else under this new subline. That would put the final nail in the coffin for a full team for jazz though.


Yeah, Jazz being solo makes me wonder if they will even touch Inferno.

Dreadwind could still end up in either this line or a UW reboot. They might just be saving him to release as a 2 pack Buster/Hydra, or they could be using those 2 as limbs for Starscream (or whatever character they will use that torso for).


I wouldn't mind seeing PW Starscream retooled for Skyquake and Jazz redone as Ricochet/Stepper.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby Agamemnon » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:07 am

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BBTS has them up for preorder now. :-D

[Edit] No pics yet, tho... :(
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:08 am

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Well the only really odd figure here is Jazz. The Lack of Voyagers and other deluxes still gives me hope Takara has plans for a UW styled Dinobot set, and a Starscream set (which will incorporate Deadwind & Blackwing somehow)...If Jazz is indeed to be a solo act however, I guess I can just go ahead and get the Hasbro one.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:09 am

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Agamemnon wrote:BBTS has them up for preorder now. :-D

[Edit] No pics yet, tho... :(

Those prices are surprisingly reasonable. Makes me wonder just how different these are going to be compared to the Hasbro ones...
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:14 am

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steals_your_goats wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:BBTS has them up for preorder now. :-D

[Edit] No pics yet, tho... :(

Those prices are surprisingly reasonable. Makes me wonder just how different these are going to be compared to the Hasbro ones...


In this particular case, I'm guessing not very different at all
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:30 am

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Probably having one of my delusions again, but I'm thinking :TAKARATOMY: selling Jazz separately *may* be a good thing now, since he (in japan at least) he will have no connection to the Inferno Voyager. Maybe, they instead could release Guard City? :PRAY:

I mean...if you think about it, If they are contemplating a continuation of UW...You have:

Volcanicus
Starscream Combiner
Guard City
Abominus
Elita-1 Combiner
Battle Gaia
Predaking....


If they incorporate Guard City and even Battle Gaia into the mix, these are molds they already have at their disposal to pad things out while they manufacture new ones. This would just be awesome...but all we can do is wait and see.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby Rated X » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:24 am

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o.supreme wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:BBTS has them up for preorder now. :-D

[Edit] No pics yet, tho... :(

Those prices are surprisingly reasonable. Makes me wonder just how different these are going to be compared to the Hasbro ones...


In this particular case, I'm guessing not very different at all


I agree. We could very well be seeing repeat of the Takara Trypticon syndrome where you are just paying for the same exact figure in a nicer box. The $65 leader class prices are especially suspect since Legends Overlord costs almost $100 on preorder. The good news is money saved. The bad news is we might not be getting the Leader figures in awesome shiny decos without the crappy grey plastic. I was planning to skip the Hasbro for those particulary. As far as the absence of the Dinobots in the preorders and the possible continuation of the unite warriors line, I would say pay close attention to Takaras deco for Slash. Whatever she gets is highly likely the other Dinobots will get. If she is chromed out, expect Diaclone Dinobots. G2 Dinobots might also be a possibility considering they are going G2 to release the Megatron mold.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby D-Maximus_Prime » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:25 pm

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I agree it looks like they are splitting up the Hasbro version into a Unite Warriors 2.0 and a legends approach sort of deal
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers PP (Power of the Primes) Thread

Postby RodimusRex » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:22 pm

I would be very surprised if Rodimus isn't two-tone crimson instead of red with gray hands in Deluxe mode and a cartoon fire pattern.

I would also be very surprised if Takara uses stickers and if Optimus isn't lighter/brighter with blue hands and some extra silver paint.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:21 pm

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Huh, how about that. TakaraTomy keeps surprising me by bucking the trend just when you get the hang of one.

Not just with how they're handling the line, but it remains to be seen how they're handling the names as the current Legends line and Unite Warriors had both US and Japanese names. For those curious:

- Jazz: Meister
- Windcharger: Charger
- Rodimus Prime: Rodimus Convoy
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby Prime Target » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:23 pm

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i'm looking forward to seeing what Takara does with Windcharger, Beachcomber and both of the primes. With a few choice paint apps on the robot mode Takara could make Orion the most show accurate he's ever been barring the alt mode of course. Jazz i can easily see get repainted into Steppper please make this happen .Outside of Abominus, Volcanicus and Predaking i can't see Unite Warriors coming back keep it in your pants lads :D
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:10 pm

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I think the most exciting thing about this announcement is that these figures will be coming within the next 6 months. It was a looooong wait when TF Legends went on hiatus in the middle of this year. It was nearly 10 months in between when Titans Return Hot Rod came out in Hasbro markets and when Takara finally put their version out. Since then, Legends releases have been slow and piecemeal by comparison to Hasbro. It made it very hard to resist buying Hasbro versions when there wasn't any knowledge of what Takara's versions would look like or even IF they would be released at all. Knowing that the Takara PotP equivalents are coming next spring, I can hold off on hunting down the Hasbro versions, at least until I can get some good comparison pictures.

As for the combiners, I do feel like it would be a good time for Takara to bring back Unite Warriors for a second round. There is plenty of ground yet to cover with classic G1 combiners and the new combiners from the Power of the Primes line, as well as the opportunity for more "EX" releases to cover repaints like Guard City and Battle Gaia.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:24 pm

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It's hard to speculate on what the prices mean. Sure, they're lower than the Legends line, but that doesn't mean they'll be the same exact figures as Hasbro's. Just look at the TLK line, those ARE just repackaged Hasbro figures and even those prices aren't this low. My own theory is that these aren't the actual prices for Japan since the pre-order prices are much too low on BBTS. Instead I think these might be the Japanese discount prices and BBTS's prices may be based on an Asia retail release as an extension of UW. If these were coming directly from Japan then BBTS wouldn't price a 7,000 JPY figure for $65, they'd be closer to $85.

I'm crossing my fingers that Takara Tomy makes a Targetmaster combiner out of Artfire, Stepper, Crosshairs, Pointblank, and Sureshot. Since the last three didn't take Transtectors in the Legends comics they can easily say they had their bodies rebuilt as combiners instead. Their partners already exist in Legends so they wont need to come with them and since they're doing smaller Legends scale figures maybe they can make one that's a retool of Shockwave to go with the combined form.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:49 pm

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Amiami is gonna kill my wallet with their sales tax less prices if this keeps up in 2018! Windblade tragetmaster may be the last in the line before they transition to Legends 2.0 or is this 3.0?

BBTS prices and the rest are just space holders until the official release/SRP shows up.

My concern is that the QC improves and the plastics are more sturdy. Decos are sure to wow the beholder!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:04 pm

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Oh dear, the implications of those ID number abbreviations are quite unfortunate.

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Sabrblade wrote:Oh dear, the implications of those ID number abbreviations are quite unfortunate.

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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:03 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Oh dear, the implications of those ID number abbreviations are quite unfortunate.

:P


You just *now* saw that? :lol:
I just *now* saw this thread, period. ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby Black Hat » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:42 am

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I got bad news, boys and girls...

Seems like the Takara versions are literally identical to the Hasbro versions, awful stickers and all. If the mainline continues like this I might give up on newer official Transformers figures. There's rumours circulating the web that Hasbro gave Takara a slap on the wrist for making the Legends figures (mostly) much better than the TR ones, and told them to make them identical to the Western releases.

If that's true then congratulations Hasbro, you dun f***ed it up.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby Albatross250 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:48 am

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Same Prime, same Mold, Except it has no stickers whatsoever.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:52 am

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Black Hat wrote:I got bad news, boys and girls...

Seems like the Takara versions are literally identical to the Hasbro versions, awful stickers and all. If the mainline continues like this I might give up on newer official Transformers figures. There's rumours circulating the web that Hasbro gave Takara a slap on the wrist for making the Legends figures (mostly) much better than the TR ones, and told them to make them identical to the Western releases.

If that's true then congratulations Hasbro, you dun f***ed it up.


And we're sure these aren't just placeholder images of the "overseas" versions? That's happened MANY times before, FYI. It's usually a few months after an initial announcement that we get pictures of the actual Takara Tomy samples to be produced.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:20 am

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Through a variety of sources, we have what may or may not be placeholder images (but probably not, given the actual finalised source) for Takara Tomy's take on the third part of the Prime Wars Trilogy toyline: Transformers Power of The Prime (the added 'the/za' is newly confirmed)! The images are found on both Amazon.co.jp and via the web page for Dengeki Hobby Magazine.

We're mirroring below what we have so far from the line, but it appears that the shift from Legends to its own line also carries a lack of differences in decoration between Hasbro and Takara Tomy's releases - at least given these initial looks. Check out the images below, spanning from PP-01 Micronus to PP-09 Optimus Prime, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub discussion board!

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Power of Prime Thread

Postby kurthy » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:35 am

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Is there any difference between Hasbro and Takara this time?
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