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[Stormshot_Prime]

Calling it now, Primal is going to be some kind of revived/reformatted version of Optimus Prime.

[ZeroWolf]

Calling it now, Primal is going to be some kind of revived/reformatted version of Optimus Prime.

Probably after onyx prime as revived him though I'm curious as to why machima have gone with him being hairy when the toy is him in a more Cybertronian form (I. E. Before the beast wars)

[Windsweeper]

Captain of a science vessel. Very intelligent.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's a reformatted Perceptor especially given Optimus believed Perceptor would be a suitable successor.

Though I'd have preferred not to see Beast Wars characters in the line.

[ZeroWolf]

Well only reason primal is here is because of the fan poll.

[Burn]

I just hope he's his own character. None of this reformatted nonsense. Don't force some lame origin story onto him.

[Bronzewolf]

While most of us feel like we're still recovering from the last Transformers Machinima animated show, Titans Return, it is almost time to jump down the rabbit hole again with the upcoming show Power of the Primes. It's because of this that the voice actor for Megatron in Combiner Wars, Titans Return, and POTP, Jason Marnocha, who is widely praised for being one of the highlights of the Trilogy, has started teasing POTP's premier.
Coming fresh from his twitter account, he's shared an image of Megatron with the new Power of the Primes title graphic, accompanied by his caption of "Soon. Soooooooon..." (It's also worth noting that the poster sports a shiny new Machinima logo, as well.) Check out the image mirrored from his twitter below, and let us know if you'll be tuning in to Power of the Primes when it premiers sometime later this year. It'll feature big new names like Mark Hamill, Ron Perlman, and Greg Berger!

[Evil Eye]

Freddery's TR special isn't even out yet and we're already getting teasers for the conclusion of this root canal of a series?

[Randomhero]

Freddery's TR special isn't even out yet and we're already getting teasers for the conclusion of this root canal of a series?

Who’s gun is pointed at your head forcing you to watch it?

[ZeroWolf]

I can see computron and menasor hiding behind him...so is this going to be everybody against megatronus, evil roddy and overlord?

[Seibertron]

Voice talent and art is great in these shows. It's the directing that needs the work, and for the director to have better control over the voice talent. I don't think I've ever seen something where it's the directing that is so blatantly the problem. Well, except for the Star Wars Prequels.

[Sabrblade]

Voice talent and art is great in these shows. It's the directing that needs the work, and for the director to have better control over the voice talent. I don't think I've ever seen something where it's the directing that is so blatantly the problem. Well, except for the Star Wars Prequels.

And the writing. The writing needs serious improvement as well.

[william-james88]

I don't think I've ever seen something where it's the directing that is so blatantly the problem. Well, except for the Star Wars Prequels.

Oh and a certain film called The Room

[Bronzewolf]

I don't think I've ever seen something where it's the directing that is so blatantly the problem. Well, except for the Star Wars Prequels.

Oh and a certain film called The Room

Oh Hai Megatronus.

[william-james88]

I don't think I've ever seen something where it's the directing that is so blatantly the problem. Well, except for the Star Wars Prequels.

Oh and a certain film called The Room

Oh Hai Megatronus.

You're tearing me apart Elita!

[Sabrblade]

I don't think I've ever seen something where it's the directing that is so blatantly the problem. Well, except for the Star Wars Prequels.

Oh and a certain film called The Room

Oh Hai Megatronus.

Heh heh, it's funny cuz he's voiced by Mark.

[Bronzewolf]

I don't think I've ever seen something where it's the directing that is so blatantly the problem. Well, except for the Star Wars Prequels.

Oh and a certain film called The Room

Oh Hai Megatronus.

Heh heh, it's funny cuz he's voiced by Mark.

Punception.

[YoungPrime]

I think it's safe to say that Hasbro is STUCK in a contract with Machinima that supersede's the growingly poor reception this crappy @ss show gets.

I mean it's one thing for Hasbro to sell out to Bay and Paramount when there's a billion dollar box office and multi millions in merchandise being sold.

But this project here is used chewing gum by comparison.

What's really frustrating is that Voltron toys don't make a fraction of what any TF line makes right now. Yet they were still able to make a deal with DreamWorks and Netflix and knock it outta the park!

Begging the question what the h3'll are Hasbro's shareholders doing over there during board meetings!

At this point I wish that I could just block the word Machinima from any internet device I own unless the words "Cancelled" or "Ending" is in the same sentence.

[william-james88]

Begging the question what the h3'll are Hasbro's shareholders doing over there during board meetings!

They discuss brand awareness. We know that, they mention that all the time. This machinima thing is just to keep the transfomers brand in the ether and garner it web presence. its to promote the brand itself, not just a toyline.

[YoungPrime]

Begging the question what the h3'll are Hasbro's shareholders doing over there during board meetings!

They discuss brand awareness. We know that, they mention that all the time. This machinima thing is just to keep the transfomers brand in the ether and garner it web presence. its to promote the brand itself, not just a toyline.

.......Okay.

Is promoting the brand online worth the price of leaving a bad taste in most fans mouths? Plus it's an insult to assume that all kids don't know the meaning of quality either when watching this garbage.

They need to start thinking long term since there's no way that people will be asking for a 10 or 20 yr anniversary of this show the way they do with G1.

[william-james88]

[quote="YoungPrime"]Plus it's an insult to assume that all kids don't know the meaning of quality either when watching this garbage.

[quote]

No assumption. Combiner Wars yielded 120 million views. So proof that yes, kids and adults watched this stuff regardless of quality.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat- ... ogy-950981

[o.supreme]

That's the problem though. Nobody knew exactly what Machinima was going to produce. I'll fully admit, I was 100% onboard with CW, hoping this was going to be something spectacular, after 1 episode, I knew it was a dumpster fire, hoping it might get better, and it never did. The micro series was fully produced, so its not like they could just stop there, they aired all the episodes. Hasbro should have looked at the responses, not just the number of views. I cant imagine large percentage of viewers asked for, or wanted more.

Or maybe it was favorable in other markets...I don't know. After the negative response to Revenge of the Fallen (the highest grossing TF film US Domestic), it only took 3 more movies for the rest of the world to catch on that these were garbage... .

It's like a new bakery opening, If they sell 1000 donuts, simply because its a new store, but those donuts are awful, and they order 2000 more...All your going to have is a bunch of stale donuts. Unfortunately I know media isn't a consumable that goes *stale* per se, and frankly I don't even know how Hasbro profits from this. If its just to promote awareness, and not necessarily to purchase toys (I purchase Generations toys because they are the only TF line I care about, and provide a satisfying feeling of nostalgia)...in spite of how awful the Machinima series is.

If someone going in with a clean slate were to base all things Transformers solely on what Machinima produced, I would not blame them if they had zero interest in reading any of the comics, watching any other shows or movies, or purchasing any toys at all.

I still say Hasbro should go the route that WB/DC is. They provide 3 fully animated movies per year for the home market. Granted some are better than others, but they are drawn from all different DC stories and continuities. Hasbro can do the same, with 30 plus years of TF lore, who can tell me, they would not love, say 2 animated movies per years (70-80 minuets long), that explore original stories from everything. original Series (Sunbow and marvel comics), BW, RiD, Unicron Trilogy, heck I'd even love a film inspired by some of what Dreamwave did...

An argument I see against this all the time is... *It's too expensive* on that I call BS. DC's films probably cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 5M to produce. Paramount's 5 live action theatrical films made upwards of 3.5B world wide, I'm sure Hasbro made a nice profit off the residuals. Hasbro has its own animation studio, but if they wanted to partner with another animation house for funding, and split the earnings, that's fine too. I just refuse to hear about how something cannot be done, if they don't even try. For my money, the film Predacons Rising which served as an addendum to TF Prime was the best TF movie of the past decade.

[Sabrblade]

As bad as the first two shows were, they were still a success and garnered quite the following of blind praise given by people on Facebook and YouTube. For those such people, it seems that all it takes is the use of G1-based animation models and G1 voice actors for even the worst schlock to be considered a masterpiece, regardless of how much it all fails across the rest of the board in terms of writing, directing, editing, scripting, timing, animating, etc.

Save for the acting. It was mostly decent, with some being better than others.

[Galactic Prime]

Hasbro had the chance to make an actual G1-esk AWESOME new cartoon, and they let these rejects make it. Combiner Wars and Titan's Return were terrible. Actually, they were beyond terrible.

Just like Mark Hamill could not save The Last Jedi from being Garbage, Peter Cullen couldn't save Titan's Return.

The voice acting on almost every character was terrible, the scripts were god awful. The animation was sloppy.

Just let this die already.

[YoungPrime]

Plus it's an insult to assume that all kids don't know the meaning of quality either when watching this garbage.

No assumption. Combiner Wars yielded 120 million views. So proof that yes, kids and adults watched this stuff regardless of quality.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat- ... ogy-950981

Hellooooo! You didn't ans my question you just brought up numbers of the first season during its first 3 months. Even I was one of those 120M who gave it a chance and haven't supported it since, thus cause and effect!

You can't argue that the show is any good so what's your role here besides playing Machinima's free PR?

Do you personally want a quality TF show or do you want this crap to keep going????!

[ZeroWolf]

Plus it's an insult to assume that all kids don't know the meaning of quality either when watching this garbage.

No assumption. Combiner Wars yielded 120 million views. So proof that yes, kids and adults watched this stuff regardless of quality.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat- ... ogy-950981

Hellooooo! You didn't ans my question you just brought up numbers of the first season during its first 3 months. Even I was one of those 120M who gave it a chance and haven't supported it since, thus cause and effect!

You can't argue that the show is any good so what's your role here besides playing Machinima's free PR?

Do you personally want a quality TF show or do you want this crap to keep going????!

Actually couple of things to think about. Firstly, quality is subjective as is our opinion on things (remember opinion =/= facts), just because you don't like it doesn't mean your opinion is shared by all those who watched these. Secondly, we are not paying for this product, this is just a short series that is just about promoting the brand. Hasbro would have to pump serious money in to it to get it to the level of a TV production. They wouldn't do that unless it had potential to return their investment and then some. Basically don't expect miracles (though that's not saying there's no room for improvement, but just temper expectation)

If instead of tf prime we got this show then that would be bad however this is just a Web show that just steals time if you commit to watching it