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Re: Rumoured Leader Shockwave and Decepticon Listings in Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Wave 1

Postby starrhero » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:23 pm

Va'al wrote:One of the biggest talking points, after the initial reveal of the War for Cybertron Siege toys from San Diego Comic Con 2018, was what wasn't shown in any of the documentation, presentations or actual displays: the Decepticons.

Now that distributors such as Entertainment Earth and Diamond are sending out their orders listings for stores for this fall, however, we have more than just a hint towards the purple faction showing up as early as wave 1. Fellow Seibertronian Samsonator contacted us to let us know the following:

My workplace just out through orders for our first shipments of War For Cybertron: Siege figures. Included in the Leader Class assortment was a listing for Leader Class Shockwave. I didn't see this info myself so I can not confirm it, but the biggest Shockwave fan in the store did the ordering, so he knows what he's talking about. So for now, I will say this is a rumour.

The store I work for is an independently owned collectibles store, but the cases we order are the same as regular big box retailers. The listings were all by name, and mostly what we've seen already, except for a few (Voyager Class "M", presumably Megatron, Deluxe "S", possibly Starscream, Leader Class "G", maybe a Galvatron?) but Shockwave was identified by name in the Leader Class assortment


We did some digging, and the rumour may appear to be indeed founded, with wave 1 supposedly including: Battle Masters Blowpipe, Lionizer and Firedrive; Micro Masters Race Car Patrol, Battle Patrol, Airstrike Patrol; Deluxes Sideswipe, Deluxe S (starscream?), Cog, Hound; Voyagers Optimus Prime and M (megatron?); Leaders Ultra Magnus and, here he is, Shockwave. Take this with a pinch of salt until a full reveal from Hasbro and/or corroboration from another source, but in the meantime, feel free to join the speculation in the Energon Pub!

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But wait, wasn't the idea that this line was supposed to be as G1 accurate as possible? Because if it is, Megatron & Shockwave should be the same size, and if Megatron is a voyager, Shockwave should be as well... Right?

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby kurthy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:26 pm

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kurthy wrote:Damn it, I don't need a leader shocky. I need a voyager and a deluxe.

I already got enough Deluxe and Voyager Shockwaves but there's never been a Shockwave beyond Voyager class (as far as I remember). So don't be so darn selfish :BANG_HEAD:


MP shockwave and original shockwave both fill that need. The deluxe and voyager shockwaves have been awful, so I would like a good one in either size class.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Amelie » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:29 pm

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The G1 cartoon size guide seems to be the wrong thing to use here. Ultra Magnus is clearly is based off his G1 toy and if toys are anything to go by...

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... Then leader sized for Shockwave seems pretty appropriate. :-)
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Re: Rumoured Leader Shockwave and Decepticon Listings in Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Wave 1

Postby Lunatic Prime » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:31 pm

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starrhero wrote:
Va'al wrote:One of the biggest talking points, after the initial reveal of the War for Cybertron Siege toys from San Diego Comic Con 2018, was what wasn't shown in any of the documentation, presentations or actual displays: the Decepticons.

Now that distributors such as Entertainment Earth and Diamond are sending out their orders listings for stores for this fall, however, we have more than just a hint towards the purple faction showing up as early as wave 1. Fellow Seibertronian Samsonator contacted us to let us know the following:

My workplace just out through orders for our first shipments of War For Cybertron: Siege figures. Included in the Leader Class assortment was a listing for Leader Class Shockwave. I didn't see this info myself so I can not confirm it, but the biggest Shockwave fan in the store did the ordering, so he knows what he's talking about. So for now, I will say this is a rumour.

The store I work for is an independently owned collectibles store, but the cases we order are the same as regular big box retailers. The listings were all by name, and mostly what we've seen already, except for a few (Voyager Class "M", presumably Megatron, Deluxe "S", possibly Starscream, Leader Class "G", maybe a Galvatron?) but Shockwave was identified by name in the Leader Class assortment


We did some digging, and the rumour may appear to be indeed founded, with wave 1 supposedly including: Battle Masters Blowpipe, Lionizer and Firedrive; Micro Masters Race Car Patrol, Battle Patrol, Airstrike Patrol; Deluxes Sideswipe, Deluxe S (starscream?), Cog, Hound; Voyagers Optimus Prime and M (megatron?); Leaders Ultra Magnus and, here he is, Shockwave. Take this with a pinch of salt until a full reveal from Hasbro and/or corroboration from another source, but in the meantime, feel free to join the speculation in the Energon Pub!

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But wait, wasn't the idea that this line was supposed to be as G1 accurate as possible? Because if it is, Megatron & Shockwave should be the same size, and if Megatron is a voyager, Shockwave should be as well... Right?

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I will take a well done Shockwave. His time has come.

Though still a tad disappointed that it looks like it will be Shockwave and not Tidal Wave

Maybe it'll be Micron Legends Shockwave ;)
I mean we'll get an RID Ultra Magnus alt mode. So why not?
And maybe this one can finally combine with a Megatron :x

Maybe that's another hint at Micron Legends Shockwave :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lunatic Prime » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:32 pm

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kurthy wrote:Damn it, I don't need a leader shocky. I need a voyager and a deluxe.

I already got enough Deluxe and Voyager Shockwaves but there's never been a Shockwave beyond Voyager class (as far as I remember). So don't be so darn selfish :BANG_HEAD:


MP shockwave and original shockwave both fill that need. The deluxe and voyager shockwaves have been awful, so I would like a good one in either size class.

But both are way to expensive and rare by now [-(
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby kurthy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:40 pm

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MP shockwave and original shockwave both fill that need. The deluxe and voyager shockwaves have been awful, so I would like a good one in either size class.

But both are way to expensive and rare by now [-(


The MP is on sale at BBTS for $120 and the G1 has reissues on eBay for under $70. Considering that seige will be about $50 and not be anywhere as good as those two, yeah, I'll pass on it. >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lunatic Prime » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:46 pm

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kurthy wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
kurthy wrote:
MP shockwave and original shockwave both fill that need. The deluxe and voyager shockwaves have been awful, so I would like a good one in either size class.

But both are way to expensive and rare by now [-(


The MP is on sale at BBTS for $120 and the G1 has reissues on eBay for under $70. Considering that seige will be about $50 and not be anywhere as good as those two, yeah, I'll pass on it. >:oP

Not as good as this thing? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:47 pm

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I have to wonder if it is G1 Shockwave, will they keep his alt as a space blaster? I do hope though that it is Tidal Wave using his Micron Legends moniker but my cynicism tells me that it's not likely.

Though if it's a voyager class Shockwave packaged with armour to put the pricing up to leader class, and then said armour could be given to Megatron...I'll be down for that ;-)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lunatic Prime » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:50 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Though if it's a voyager class Shockwave packaged with armour to put the pricing up to leader class, and then said armour could be given to Megatron...I'll be down for that ;-)

...to evolve Megatron into Galvatron :???: :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:53 pm

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Megatron to galvatron, megatron to super megatron, megatron to whatever his combined form was called in Armada. I'm not picky :-D
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Re: Rumoured Leader Shockwave and Decepticon Listings in Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Wave 1

Postby Autobot N » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:09 pm

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My workplace just out through orders for our first shipments of War For Cybertron: Siege figures. Included in the Leader Class assortment was a listing for Leader Class Shockwave. I didn't see this info myself so I can not confirm it, but the biggest Shockwave fan in the store did the ordering, so he knows what he's talking about. So for now, I will say this is a rumour.

The store I work for is an independently owned collectibles store, but the cases we order are the same as regular big box retailers. The listings were all by name, and mostly what we've seen already, except for a few (Voyager Class "M", presumably Megatron, Deluxe "S", possibly Starscream, Leader Class "G", maybe a Galvatron?) but Shockwave was identified by name in the Leader Class assortment
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby IronMagnus » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:59 pm

kurthy wrote:Damn it, I don't need a leader shocky. I need a voyager and a deluxe.


I think a Leader Shockwave could be done in a way that keeps him in scale.

Imagine a beefy main cannon of a leader class tank that transforms into a Voyager height Shockwave bot.

The rest of the tank could transform into some kind of power-up armor for him, similar to how Ultra Magnus is done.

They've said they're open to doing bot+armor with other figures, so... the core Shockwave bot could be rather simple (again, like Voyager UM is) and look like his G1 version, and then when powered up with tank treads hanging off his limbs, he could resemble the Prime/Movie shockwave more as an homage.

I mean, Shockwave doesn't have a very complex transformation as it is. Put the arms up, put the legs together, bend down the head. It's really a perfect candidate for a 'simple voyager' with armor.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:10 pm

I really hope that Leader Shockwave is a Bayformer. Especially since the SDCC panel made the great pitch about SCALE and all. Plus I don't need a d@mn Leader class!

Make Scorponok and/or Deathsaurus a leader!

As for Shockwave make it a G1 Voyager or they can keep it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby LordPrime99 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:12 pm

Deluxe "S" could just be sideswipe unless he's already been confirmed for a later wave
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:14 pm

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LordPrime99 wrote:Deluxe "S" could just be sideswipe unless he's already been confirmed for a later wave

Sideswipe is listed right before "Deluxe S" in the listing. Not really sure who it could be
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Mr.MicroMaster » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:14 pm

I wouldn't surprised if somebody already said this but here I go anyway. Deluxe S is probably Sideswipe and I this because I'm pretty sure Sideswipe is wave 1. Never mind.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:16 pm

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Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I wouldn't surprised if somebody already said this but here I go anyway. Deluxe S is probably Sideswipe and I this because I'm pretty sure Sideswipe is wave 1. Never mind.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sideswipe is listed right before "Deluxe S" in the listing. Not really sure who it could be
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Mr.MicroMaster » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:23 pm

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Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I wouldn't surprised if somebody already said this but here I go anyway. Deluxe S is probably Sideswipe and I this because I'm pretty sure Sideswipe is wave 1. Never mind.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sideswipe is listed right before "Deluxe S" in the listing. Not really sure who it could be

Yeah I saw your post right after I post it. Oh well what can you do another theory bites the dust.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I wouldn't surprised if somebody already said this but here I go anyway. Deluxe S is probably Sideswipe and I this because I'm pretty sure Sideswipe is wave 1. Never mind.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sideswipe is listed right before "Deluxe S" in the listing. Not really sure who it could be

Yeah I saw your post right after I post it. Oh well what can you do another theory bites the dust.


If Deluxe "S" is just Starscream, I'll be very disappointed. It sure would throw out that "scale is very important to us with War for Cybertron" line we've been fed. Starscream needs to be a Voyager class figure to scale correctly with the rest of the line revealed so far.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:33 pm

I wonder if mystery man S could be the rumored Sixgun? The only other thing I could think of would be possibly Silverstreak as a pretool (pre-paint?) of the rumored Prowl, but I don't even realy buy that theory and its my own.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Amelie » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:48 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:If Deluxe "S" is just Starscream, I'll be very disappointed. It sure would throw out that "scale is very important to us with War for Cybertron" line we've been fed. Starscream needs to be a Voyager class figure to scale correctly with the rest of the line revealed so far.


And yet, I was thinking once I had Moonracer in hand how well her basic layout could be retooled into a rather decent Starscream. Even the back of the car folds out into wings in robot mode.... :-D

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot N » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:58 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:If Deluxe "S" is just Starscream, I'll be very disappointed. It sure would throw out that "scale is very important to us with War for Cybertron" line we've been fed. Starscream needs to be a Voyager class figure to scale correctly with the rest of the line revealed so far.
If I remember correctly, the leaked Amazon listings had Starscream (and Thundercracker, as well) at the Voyager pricepoint with Megatron, Prime, and Springer.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:05 pm

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Deluxe S = Stalker.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:11 pm

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...oh, I want that S to be Spinister so badly, but I know it isn't because of the poll, augh...

Also, reminder that part of the focus in this line is only giving gimmicks to figures that originally had them/the gimmick makes sense for, so an Evolution/Armored Shockwave isn't likely to come just because he's Leader-class. Magnus has armor because Magnus is supposed to have armor, not because of a size-class-wide gimmick like POTP.

Burn wrote:Deluxe S = Stalker.

You know you want it to be true ...

Honestly...Predators would be cool, although I mainly just know of and like Stalker and Snare for Wreckers reasons. Both DO start with S...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:12 pm

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People are really fooling themselves if they think this will be Micron Legends Shockwave in a G1 centric line when They just renewed the name Tidal Wave in Titans Return. I wont say it's impossible for him to be a pre-tool for a Tidal Wave figure, he did have an ironclad ship mode in Hearts of Steel, but that's a real stretch.

He can still have a Voyager sized bot mode and a Leader size alt mode, just look at the things they've done in Studio Series.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I wonder if mystery man S could be the rumored Sixgun?

This was the comment I wanted to make, but thinking about it they probably wouldn't put two Deluxe Weaponizers in the first wave. Starscream does make the most sense considering the Tetra Jet art we've seen and the potential for repaints throughout the line.

Oh, and he's "Bluestreak" again, and we probably will get him and Smokescreen eventually.

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #235 - Pre-Holidaze
Twincast / Podcast #235:
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Posted: Sunday, November 24th, 2019

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